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Title: Billy Bodin
Post by: LittleRed on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 07:12:16
Been quoted in the adver as saying that his decision relies on him playing regular football with the town and that he is looking for assurances from
DiCanio. Also says he does not want another season like the last going out on loan.

Really can't see him getting what he wants. I'm not sure I'd be happy with Bodin and Benson heading our front line next year. Having said that the type of football is different and he could do do well.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 07:36:07
He's off then, no way will PDC guarantee any of them regular football.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:26:55
Meh. Bye Billy.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:29:25
I can completely understand Billy's point of view.  I'd be saying exactly the same in his shoes.  If I was Paolo, I'd be weighing up whether he is likely to be in the group of 3 or 4 strikers getting regular games.  He really could not commit to giving a more definitive assurance than that.

Conversely, if Billy does want an assurance that he's going to be playing every week (give or take), he may need to hang around in League 2 a little longer than the rest of us.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:34:33
 Torquay it is then....think it would be the best move for him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:37:04
The thing is, considering we've offered him a contract, won't be be due compensation if he goes elsewhere?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:40:08
The thing is, considering we've offered him a contract, won't be be due compensation if he goes elsewhere?

Yes.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:40:45
That rules Torquay out then


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:42:15
That rules Torquay out then

Aren't we rumoured to be interested in O'Kane....


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:43:11
I think you could be on to something there.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:44:20
Aren't we rumoured to be interested in O'Kane....

Aha


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:46:59
A brave comment from Bodin considering he hasn't even opened the contract.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:48:59
A brave comment from Bodin considering he hasn't even opened the contract.

The Play-Off Final was over 24 hours ago... He would have opened it by now.

 ;)


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:49:23
PS  For what it's worth, I would like Billy to stay.  Like Rooney, he's yound and talented - and precisely the sort of player I can see growing with the club as (hopefully) we climb the leagues.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: michael on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 09:17:16
He's got versatility.

Versatility goes a long way.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 10:20:37
Think the offers to Bodin and Thompson are more to do with hoping for a small return and will be cheap offers. Also think Wray will be the one behind it and not Di canio.
Torquay want Bodin for sure.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 10:25:32
Which is very clever work by Mr Wray.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: nevillew on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:08:18
He's got versatility.

Versatility goes a long way.

Yes, Torquay probably, do keep up.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:50:04
Would drive him down to Torquay myself. Doesn't improve the squad.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:56:40
He needs to do some work in the gym as he's got technique but gets muscled off the ball to easily. One for the future though so I'd probably keep him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 12:00:36
A fuss over nothing really. An ok squad player at best in L2. Think too many people want him based on his dad being a legend here. I've not seen anything in him that would be of use in L1 next season and if i'm honest I think the current strikers we have would all struggle in L1 bar Benson. No better than Blair Sturruck.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 13:36:13
I think he's got the best technique of any of the strikers currently on our books.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 18:40:14
A fuss over nothing really. An ok squad player at best in L2. Think too many people want him based on his dad being a legend here. I've not seen anything in him that would be of use in L1 next season and if i'm honest I think the current strikers we have would all struggle in L1 bar Benson. No better than Blair Sturruck.

I think its potential people see rather than current worth. But he isn't going to walk into a L1 team (IMHO) so I think his future will be elsewhere. And good luck to him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 18:43:35
If he is making the same demands elsewhere as he is here then he may struggle.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:07:55
I like him,daft to let him go in my humblest.....very good prospect in my eyes.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:14:08
Agree leefer,my main gripe is how someone so young can be so publicly demanding.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: corner on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:15:10
Gone to his head already, he aint no one....


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:16:28
True Dean....wont do him any favours but then Paolo likes players with a bit of front.

Could go both ways really.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:19:03
He's a top lad, by no means big time at all. He needs to be playing games at this time in his career though.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:19:20
Want Billy to stay, think he has a lot of talent and with game time could become a real asset. Showed some real quality (Crawley at home) and has also shown a lack of physicality and strength. I think he'd probably be best as an left winger, as dosent look particularly threatening, but has great technical ability.
Wee bit dissapointed with his public stance on this though. Probably would have been better to say that he wanted first team football if/when he leaves.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:23:06
If he doesn't sign for us, and no other club wants to sign him because they don't want to pay the tribunal fee, what happens next?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:24:59
He gets released.  ;)


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:27:23
He gets released.  ;)

Which will render the whole Bosman ruling thingamy redundant


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:27:52
If he doesn't sign for us, and no other club wants to sign him because they don't want to pay the tribunal fee, what happens next?

He'll stay on the same contract until he is over 23 I believe. Unless the club choose to release or sell him, not 100% sure though.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:30:58
He'll stay on the same contract until he is over 23 I believe. Unless the club choose to release or sell him, not 100% sure though.

I was thinking the same thing.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:35:33
Surely some neek on here knows the in's & out's of the Bosman ruling? Would google it, but cannay be fucked to read through it all.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 19:41:02
Not bothered if he stays or goes

If he makes our first team next season on a weekly basis, hes either improved shit loads, or we will get relagated


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 20:54:40
If he doesn't sign for us, and no other club wants to sign him because they don't want to pay the tribunal fee, what happens next?

I think that as long as our contract offer is as good as his expiring one then we retain his registration and whenever he finds a new club compensation is payable.  So, as I understand it if he rejects our contract but can't find anyone willing to pay the due compensation then he becomes unemployed.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 21:05:51
I think it is down to the player registration.  I think that STFC would keep his player registration until he's old enough not to command a fee.

I might be wrong


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: chrisser on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 22:05:26
A third way might be he signs the contract with us but spends the first year back at Torquay on loan.  Could suit everyone...


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Friday, June 22, 2012, 08:50:34
A third way might be he signs the contract with us but spends the first year back at Torquay on loan.  Could suit everyone...

Agree, would be good option. :wink:


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 22, 2012, 10:53:10
Some Crewe fans are saying he has signed for them but I haven't seen anything in the press.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: spennyboy on Monday, July 2, 2012, 10:23:46
Looks like Toquay are doing there upmost to get billy on the cheap

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18672525


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 2, 2012, 10:30:23
Looks like Toquay are doing there upmost to get billy on the cheap

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18672525

Which I think is a figure that both clubs have no agreed as mutually acceptable.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, July 2, 2012, 10:41:58
Not trying to patronise Torquay in any way, but £70k will be a significant outlay for them.  A good deal for all parties, I think.  I think Billy will do well for them, and will probably generate a profit for them in a year or two when he moves up a level.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, July 2, 2012, 10:43:02
£70k is a decent fee for what is an unproven youngster. Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 2, 2012, 11:15:32
£70k is is a massive investment for Torquay, their 2nd highest transfer fee after the £75k they paid Peterborough Utd for Leon Constantine in 2004.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Power to people on Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:00:57
That would be a good fee with add-on's attached and a sell on clause, maybe depends on the terms of the offer though if it is a straight fee or dependant on him reaching targets

They are obviously desperate to sign him though - let's hope that it does not leave a problem for his father at the club must be difficult for him


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:04:01
Any news on the "changes" PDC was whittling on about after pubgate? The rant when he said to the effect of the youth team were also unprofessional.

I feared Bodin Snr was in the firing line, but hopefully its blown over/unrelated to him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:14:21
It was clearly a backhanded insult to bodin snr.
Of course Di canio is entitled to that opinion. Dunno how he'd conclude it when he has never wathced the youths though


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:17:18
He might have seen youth team players shuffling back from Burger King on a matchday. That would have told him all he needed to know.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: LittleRed on Monday, July 2, 2012, 14:48:58
I dont think Bodin Senior will be around for too long if jnr does go. A guy from the gulls forum who claims to have swindon conections (seemed to know about the 70k bid before it was officially announced) and suggested this to be the case. Id imagine snr would have been bitterly disappointed with PDC's stance with regard to Billy as any father would be and with the swipe at the unprofessionalism of the youth team i cant believe that relations between bodin snr and PDC are great. Id imagine both will look to pastures new.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Weasel on Monday, July 2, 2012, 15:08:35
Even the best Father/Son football partnerships split up. To expect it any other way is naive to say the least. Ask Blair Sturrock.

The youth team comment, on the other hand, might be enough to do it. Who's Torquay's youth coach?

I'd take a Ling, Taylor, Bodin management team (with Easton as fitness coach) back here once Paolo's moved on.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: LittleRed on Monday, July 2, 2012, 15:49:16
The youth team comment, on the other hand, might be enough to do it. Who's Torquay's youth coach?

I'd take a Ling, Taylor, Bodin management team (with Easton as fitness coach) back here once Paolo's moved on.

Thats a good shout


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 2, 2012, 16:06:33
Is that Sheena or Craig?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 2, 2012, 16:14:19
I'd take a Ling, Taylor, Bodin management team (with Easton as fitness coach) back here once Paolo's moved on.

Ex-players haven't worked out too well for us as managers recently.

Not sure why we'd want to change from giving an ex-star player their first management job which has always worked well.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, July 2, 2012, 16:32:21
I'd take a Ling, Taylor, Bodin management team (with Easton as fitness coach) back here once Paolo's moved on.
I wouldn't and Easton fitness coach?  ???


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, July 2, 2012, 16:39:57
I wouldn't and Easton fitness coach?  ???
Did you ever watch any of them play? if not then that's probably why.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, July 2, 2012, 16:43:04
Did you ever watch any of them play? if not then that's probably why.
Only as a kid so too young to really remember but I wouldn't want that managerial team for footballing reasons.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 2, 2012, 17:16:23
I've never understood why, when a managerial vacancy comes about, so many fans want a favourite ex-player to take over.

Surely the best man for the job is the only consideration, not just because he was a good player for the club years ago


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 2, 2012, 17:44:13
I agree, yes if an ex player is the best candidate then all the better, but they often aren't the best choice

I prefer the "young manager making a name for himself in management" option, which Swindon have done well with in the past.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 2, 2012, 18:59:45
I agree, yes if an ex player is the best candidate then all the better, but they often aren't the best choice

I prefer the "young manager making a name for himself in management" option, which Swindon have done well with in the past.

Agreed


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 2, 2012, 19:10:41
Combine the two and appoint Sam Parkin.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 2, 2012, 19:24:24
I think the old 'romance' of having a terrace favourite as boss (of any club) fades away more as the years go by. Especially at Swindon.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:24:03
Think it's safe to say daddy will be gone after todays article.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:29:08
I agree, yes if an ex player is the best candidate then all the better, but they often aren't the best choice

I prefer the "young manager making a name for himself in management" option, which Swindon have done well with in the past.

Agreed. I have mentioned his name before but I would go along the line of someone like Phil Neville.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:32:17
Think it's safe to say daddy will be gone after todays article.

What article?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:33:21
I find it amusing that Billy Bodin suddenly thinks he is king shit


Title: Re: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:37:08
It's a shame this appears to be ending with a sour taste after all Paul Bodin has done for the club. Whilst we don't have the full picture, a club legend deserves more respect than that article suggests he has received.


Title: Re: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:39:00
It's a shame this appears to be ending with a sour taste after all Paul Bodin has done for the club. Whilst we don't have the full picture, a club legend deserves more respect than that article suggests he has received.

Why?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:44:58
certainly doesn't sound as though PdC has a great deal of respect for Bodin sr. and the writing must be on the wall if he's been quoted correctly in the article.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:46:52
The way I read the quote in the article, was that PDC suggests Billy Bodin turned his nose up at the contract being offered and as a result is not being considered a Swindon player as he technically isn't signed on. The way I saw it was that Bodin asked if he would feature regularly this season, to which PDC said no. I don't see that as a bad thing as you want to get out and play games, but it just seems PDC is trying to tarnish Bodin's image when all he has done is stated he wants to play regularly.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: slinky on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:48:20
What article?

This one:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/9793789.Paolo_confirms_Bodin_deal_is_close/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/9793789.Paolo_confirms_Bodin_deal_is_close/)


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:53:17
I dont read it as tarnishing Billy B's image - simply stating that the player has made his choice, decided to move on and consequently is no longer contracted as a ST player.
However, when he is quoted as suggesting that Dad had advised him not to sign and then was put out that Billy wasn't invited to training, this reads to me as PB won't be working with PdC much longer.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:54:25
How is it tarnishing him?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:55:42
Bodin Jnr is offered a contract
Bodin Snr (probably) recommends Jnr not to sign it.
Contract is not signed largely because of Snrs advice and when Jnr is not invited for training as a result, Bodin Snr complains to the boss.....

But because he's a legend, Snr should be given more respect?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 07:57:37
It's a shame this appears to be ending with a sour taste after all Paul Bodin has done for the club. Whilst we don't have the full picture, a club legend deserves more respect than that article suggests he has received.
If someone isn't up to the job then he must be moved on, easy, no sentiment in football.

If Man Utd came in and offered Bodin snr a job as head of football development on double his wages do you think he would have stayed loyal to us? of course he wouldn't'.

There is no loyalty in football at any level, money talks and so does achievement in the game at the current job level, which Bodin has not been successful at.

Good servant to the club in his 3 periods with us as player and youth management but time to move on now and let Paolo bring in his own staff throughout every level at the club.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:02:00
PDC spot on here imo. If Bodin doesnt want to sign the contract, then why should we train an out of contract player


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:06:14
Good servant to the club in his 3 periods with us as player and youth management but time to move on now and let Paolo bring in his own staff throughout every level at the club.

Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.

All of a sudden we would find ourselves without key personnel in key positions throughout the club as it is highly PDC would take those he brought in with him.

Whilst I agree that the manager should be given a free reign to handle the first team and first team matters, I would be highly uncomfortable with a manager who has such a strong hold over the club as a whole.

JW and NW need to think long term and not just of the PDC era.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:12:51


JW and NW need to think long term and not just of the PDC era.

How can wanting the right coaching staff, especially at youth level, mean the club are not thinking long term?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:14:24
How can wanting the right coaching staff, especially at youth level, mean the club are not thinking long term?

Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:15:00
I fully understand what you are saying FCB but if we are planning long term and Poalo is honest in stating he wants to stay with us for the long term then JW has to trust PdC fully and let him decide if he wishes to bring in his own staff IMO.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:16:03
Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.

How do you know PB won't just traipse off at any minute anyway?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:16:04
Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.


If he takes them you get new ones...

The most important member of the staff is the manager, when/if he leaves, the others all pale into insignificance. I can't imagine, should Paolo leave, we'll be worried about the youth team coach leaving with him.

If Paolo wants to run the club from top to bottom, Paolo should be allowed. Perhaps having his mentality instilled within the youngsters will improve the quality of our players. It could mean we have more technically gifted youngsters and players who grow to play the game better. It's not like the current set-up is comparable to Crewe or Crystal Palace, so changing it doesn't really lose much imo.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:17:27
Which is fine as long as the man they pick is not someone who is going traipse off when PDC goes.

I agree with this, there needs to be stability in the youth coaching at least. Doesn't do anyone any good if when Paolo leaves he brings all of his men with him, you can get away with that at 1st team level but it's good to have stability on the youth side. Whether PB is that man I honestly don't know.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:37:36
Even if PDC is only here for another year, and his youth team staff left with him, it still means the youths have still had the best possible coach for one year. Would people rather they didn't have the best possible coaching staff just for the sake of stability? Should we just go for an average option just because it means they'll be hanging around for longer?

I don't know either whether or not PB is the best option, although I'm pretty sure that PDC is qualified enough to have a valuable opinion on the matter.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 08:48:10
I think PDC has to be honest and be given the time and free reign to build the club from top to bottom. If he wants the transisation from youth to first team to be smooth and seamless then the youths have to play the same way as the first team. This will take time to implement, but will only work if he stays for the long haul and is given the tools he needs to work with.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Only Me on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:10:03
Really?

Like you say there is no loyalty at any level in football?  What if we get away to a flyer and Paolo gets a job offer from a club further up the food chain and proceeds to take all the people he has put in place at the CG with him.

All of a sudden we would find ourselves without key personnel in key positions throughout the club as it is highly PDC would take those he brought in with him.

There is no 'what if' about it. He will go to a higher league club at some stage (based on current progress)


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:16:33
When Paolo does leave I would like to think we would be an attractive proposition for most managers


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 09:50:22
They do this a lot in Italy.
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Not so much in England.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 10:45:20
Paul Bodin has to advise his son properly, the interests of Swindon Town or PDC have nothing to do with it.PDC has made it clear he's not going to get as many games as perhaps he'd like so Paul has advised Billy to go somewhere else where he he will get games.

I don't know why PDC has to constantly air all this stuff in the papers.Sometimes I feel i'm getting won over by him, then he just reminds what a loathsome twat he really is.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 10:54:53
Paul Bodin has to advise his son properly, the interests of Swindon Town or PDC have nothing to do with it.PDC has made it clear he's not going to get as many games as perhaps he'd like so Paul has advised Billy to go somewhere else where he he will get games.

I don't know why PDC has to constantly air all this stuff in the papers.Sometimes I feel i'm getting won over by him, then he just reminds what a loathsome twat he really is.

Most top managers are!


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:00:27
I wish Paolo was nicey nicey and crept around like a timid little mouse. I'm sure that wouldn't change his effectiveness at management in the slightest.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:04:04
I wish Paolo was nicey nicey and crept around like a timid little mouse. I'm sure that wouldn't change his effectiveness at management in the slightest.

Pity he never seems to give his press officer a day off though.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:06:20
Pity he never seems to give his press officer a day off though.

Incorrect

The press is great. Extra marketing revenue and TV money etc, more of the same please Paolo.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:08:05
Incorrect

The press is great. Extra marketing revenue and TV money etc, more of the same please Paolo.

Um, whoosh? That's you by the way.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:10:03
Paul Bodin has to advise his son properly, the interests of Swindon Town or PDC have nothing to do with it.PDC has made it clear he's not going to get as many games as perhaps he'd like so Paul has advised Billy to go somewhere else where he he will get games.

I don't know why PDC has to constantly air all this stuff in the papers.Sometimes I feel i'm getting won over by him, then he just reminds what a loathsome twat he really is.

Perhaps he was just answering the advers question as honestly as he knows how, he has never been the most subtle of chaps, as a player or manager so i wouldn't expect that to change in a hurry.

Personally I wouldnt want Paolo any other way, he won over me at Northampton away when he demonstrated what winning meant to him, as it meant the same to the 1600 odd that made the journey. I want more of his arm flapping we will win this league anyway and bollocks to the lot of you mentality, it has made supporting Swindon enjoyable again.

Paul Hart anyone?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:13:21
Done Deal According to BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18672525


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:18:45
Surely people can see what pdc is saying here? one hand advising his son to leave,that is fine but then moaning to pdc that he isn't allowed to go on tour.It is ok blaming pdc all the time but maybe bodin shouldnt be moaning about his son about it aswell?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:26:36
Bodin has now gone - an ex-player. Better off concentrating on those who will be winning the League for us next season.

I, for one, don't give a flying fuck about whatever some people think are PDC's shortcomings in the communications department - what happens on the pitch is king.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:36:16
I'm sure the contract offered to bodin here was a token one,purely down to the club knowing others wanted him so they knew they'd get some money back.I believe 100% he never had a future here. Good business sense but lets not kid ourselves. Both Bodins have been treated poorly. If we didn't have such a great chairman it would have been even worse i'm sure


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:36:39
Surely people can see what pdc is saying here? one hand advising his son to leave,that is fine but then moaning to pdc that he isn't allowed to go on tour.It is ok blaming pdc all the time but maybe bodin shouldnt be moaning about his son about it aswell?

Spot on.

There's no problem with Bodin Snr advising his son not to sign the contract he was offered as his future could/would be better elsewhere.

Just as it makes sense that you wouldn't take a player on a pre season tour if you don't expect them to be around next season.

The problem is Bodin Snr moaning about it.
What next, Jonathan Smith's Mum on the phone to Paolo moaning that her son hasn't been taken on tour.

Only one person has come out of this looking a bit silly & it isn't Paolo


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:40:06
Silly Billy


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:43:00
Both Bodins have been treated poorly.

How has Billy been badly treated?  It appears he wanted some guarantee of first team football which PDC rightly cannot give so now he moves on with the club getting some money for his development. 

I honestly don't know how that is treating him badly.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:44:19
I'm sure the contract offered to bodin here was a token one,purely down to the club knowing others wanted him so they knew they'd get some money back.I believe 100% he never had a future here. Good business sense but lets not kid ourselves. Both Bodins have been treated poorly. If we didn't have such a great chairman it would have been even worse i'm sure

I know nothing of Bodin Snr's treatment, but I wouldnt say Billy has been treated unfairly. He was given an opportunity to play in a team at the top of the table, and when it was apparent he wasnt going to play was promptly sent out onn loan. Which is better than letting him rot in the reserves, the club has given him the first team experience he craved in one way or another, I wouldnt say that was mistreating him.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:46:41
He played for a bit, was deemed not good enough and was sold. Nothing new there.



Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:52:09
Both Bodins have been treated poorly.

They have?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:57:09
Good move for Billy, no point sitting in the (lack of a ) reserve team for us. He needs game time to try and develop to the next level. I applaud him for doing so.

Less happy with the comments PDC made on Bodin Sr. But we weren't there, papers have a habit of selectively quoting to fit an agenda (even if it is as simple as paper sales). If it is verbatim, a simple repeat of "Billy hasn't signed so will not be considered" would do. It not the PDC way though is it.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:57:44
The problem is Bodin Snr moaning about it.

Nobody's heard either Bodin moaning about anything. Only our manager seems to feel it necessary to have all his arguments in public.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 12:10:19
Rather disappointed in all this. Disappointed in Billy Bodin leaving as I thought he was a very good player and would only get better with more experience - time will tell. Disappointed in PdC comments being made through the Adver. as sometimes things are better kept in-house, but that does not appear to be the way he works so I am not really surprised. Disappointed that Paul Bodin has been dragged into it but once again not really surprised as he would want the best for his son as most fathers would.

Regarding the Youth set-up, we have sold four or five players over the last few years to much bigger clubs with far larger academies and monetary outlays and that situation will remain until we can compete (if ever), so to my mind if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: walcot red on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 12:17:11
Nobody's heard either Bodin moaning about anything. Only our manager seems to feel it necessary to have all his arguments in public.

Its an Italian thing, I've worked with quite a few they air their laundry in public, is it professional? not really, but then it gets sorted and we all move on. As for Billy Bodin yes he's scored us a few goals but seriously he's not going to be a Parkin/Cox/Austin type striker that we need. I think it's best for him to go and ply his trade at a different club, where he won't be compared to his dad all the time. I wish Billy well and it will be nice for him to be guaranteed first team football. 


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 12:18:35
At best Bodin senior has something of a conflict of interest and really should have kept out of matters - if he is his sons advisor/agent then I am not sure what the process is.

But by not signing the contract offered (and we cannot realy comment on its terms although I would assume that as we can command a fee it was same or better than existing) Bodin junior made it clear that he wanted out and you cannot blame him. However if that is the case why should we incur the cost of training him and taking him abroad, especially as it has been clear that a transfer would be concluded quickly.

I do wonder whether the Bodin's seem to have ideas that that they deserve to be treated differently due to seniors history with the club?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 12:29:13
Well, too late to do anything about it now, Torquay local rag reporting that the deal is done and Billy signs tomorrow after a medical.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Huwwy on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 12:40:33
I think PdC needs to be a bit careful. If Bodin Snr consulted his lawyers they may suggest Paolo's public comments/criticism have made his position untenable.

I once worked for an organisation where a similar public disagreement between senior mgt ended in a constructive dismissal claim and a fair few £££ in compensation.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 13:58:52
When Bodin Snr was considering a move to Torquay to link in with Ling the powers that be decided they wanted him to stay and gave him a contract for the youth job.

I can understand him having a conversation with his son about how he see's his future but he should not (if he did) advise him not to sign a new deal here as he works for the club and should be loyal regardless, he should have told Billy he cant advise him one way or the other he had to make his own mind up, and advise him if he is to leave then consider all offersnot just go to Torquay as his mate is manager.

I'm sure with regular first team football I think Bodin jnr will improve but he may have been able to get a season long loan to torquay or someone in L1 and then come back next season and have a crack at championship football.

Swings and roundabouts though, but I presume that Bodin jnr will stay as he has a contract unless he is off to Torquay as well as Billy's personal coach


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 14:00:51

Swings and roundabouts though, but I presume that Bodin jnr will stay as he has a contract unless he is off to Torquay as well as Billy's personal coach

Keep up at the back


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 14:01:42
nick barmby did exactly the same thing when at hull, told his son to sign for utd not hull


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 17:38:02
PDC spot on here imo. If Bodin doesnt want to sign the contract, then why should we train an out of contract player
But the issue is that PDC shouldn't have gone to print on that. What purpose does it serve?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 17:40:02
We (staff and fans alike) should all be used to the way Di Canio operates by now.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 17:47:45
Appears some still are not,i wonder how many other youth team managers would txt a manager asking why he hasn't taken a player who isn't even a youth team player?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:02:40
But the issue is that PDC shouldn't have gone to print on that. What purpose does it serve?

I would imagine he was asked a question and he answered it. Im not fussed anyway


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:36:45
OK, so he's a Di Canio ... but he's our Di Canio!


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:51:52
Bodin was too lightweight to be a striker and would be way down the pecking order as a winger, so a good time to cash in.

Time to move on.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:02:10
Bodin was too lightweight to be a striker and would be way down the pecking order as a winger, so a good time to cash in.

Time to move on.
I agree with that. Very skillful but ultimately too light weight IMO.

70k, presumably with add ons is very good money.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:10:51
too lightweight?  this is exactly the attitude that has put england where we are now in an international football sense.

people moaning that coaching in this country is up to it and people moaning that physicallity takes too much precedent over ability yet here we have people saying that bodin is too lightweight to be a stiker? 

messi is a striker, maradonna was a striker and they seemed to do/are doing ok...

no wonder we're in the shit because people in this country are still wheeling out the 'he's too small' line when it simply shouldn't be the case


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:18:30
I would imagine he was asked a question and he answered it.

Steady now......

There ain't no place for reason in pre-season. (see what I did there?)


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:02:17
Bodin looked a better footballer to me than any of our strikers bar Benson last season, and it's a shame we've let him go. He wouldn't have been good enough to hold down a regular starting place for us I feel next season, but he could have perhaps grown with us.

I feel that, as long as he doesn't let his head go astray, he'll go on on to have a very good career


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:15:18
too lightweight?  this is exactly the attitude that has put england where we are now in an international football sense.

people moaning that coaching in this country is up to it and people moaning that physicallity takes too much precedent over ability yet here we have people saying that bodin is too lightweight to be a stiker? 

messi is a striker, maradonna was a striker and they seemed to do/are doing ok...

no wonder we're in the shit because people in this country are still wheeling out the 'he's too small' line when it simply shouldn't be the case
Wow.

40 years of international failure is down to me. I do apologize, I had no idea.

And Billy Bodin is the next Maradona/Messi. I guess we let him go a bit cheaply.

This is a lot to take in all at once, I'm going to have to have a lie down.

I still think he's too light weight though.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:17:28
There's a difference between small and lightweight. Messi is more than capable of holding on to the ball, as are many small players. Being knocked off the ball too easily is a genuine flaw.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:19:50
you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:20:58
Wow.

40 years of international failure is down to me. I do apologize, I had no idea.


Well now ya do ! So feckin sort it out!


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:45:39
Bodin looked a better footballer to me than any of our strikers bar Benson last season, and it's a shame we've let him go. He wouldn't have been good enough to hold down a regular starting place for us I feel next season, but he could have perhaps grown with us.

I feel that, as long as he doesn't let his head go astray, he'll go on on to have a very good career

Maybe he would've improved under us, maybe he'd have got some game time but it wouldn't have been enough judging by him saying he wanted guarantees of first team football. He's 19 and he's coming out with that sort of thing? Sorry buddy but you ain't earned that yet. 


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:48:02
cox hadn't earned the right to knock on sturrock's door after arriving asking why he hadn't started the first game after he arrived either.  he soon proved he had what it takes


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:09:35
you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere
Correct. Because at the moment he is too light weight. That is, not physically strong enough, which you need to be and which Maradona was and Messi is. In a few years I expect BB will be as well (possibly not quite as good though).


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fatbasher on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:14:41
you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere

The words that are escaping everyone's lips is technical ability. BB is not necessarily a "lightweight", but then again he is not built like a "brick shithouse" either. So what is it to be? As alluded to, many of the best forwards in the world are not tanks. But they know where the onion bag is and can hold up play well enough to distribute the ball when a lightening attack is in progress.

Paolo has seen them come and go, in this country and in Italy. My money is on him knowing whether from an early age BB or the likes of him will make it big, where we are heading or not at all.

Remember there is a wage cap next season and every available penny will need to be accounted for to ensure we can compete which is why some players have had the contracts terminated by M/C, if the going gets tough and we need to dip into the market to push on, catch up or maintain a promotion push. BB wages may not have been massive by current norms but to have him paid every month doing little more than bench warming with the occasional cameo appearance may be a luxury we might find we cannot afford.

It's more complex than we often realise.

Sad in a way to see him go with his dad's history and all that, but being loaned out twice last season should have told you all you need to know. He ought to do well, I hope he does anyway. It remains to be seen how well and as they say time will tell.......

Lastly, Crewe were interested, but not that interested, that's why he has gone to the seaside. Crewe have an envious pedigree of producing youngsters to be groomed for the premier league. Ask yourself why BB did not end up there.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:18:27

Lastly, Crewe were interested, but not that interested, that's why he has gone to the seaside. Crewe have an envious pedigree of producing youngsters to be groomed for the premier league. Ask yourself why BB did not end up there.

What he said



Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:22:34
you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere
I think, if you look back, your argument is pretty flawed. Kevin Keegan, Michael Owen, Jermaine Defoe are all hardly big and bulky yet all have had/are having successful careers as strikers. If you've got the ability (And the footballing intelligence) size won't stop you achieving.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Only Me on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:45:06
Its an Italian thing, I've worked with quite a few they air their laundry in public, is it professional? not really, but then it gets sorted and we all move on.

That's a pretty generalising statement to make. I know lots of Italians who don't do that!


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 22:42:52
That's a pretty generalising statement to make. I know lots of Italians who don't do that!

PDC showed he likes to get the first shot in the press when the Clarke situation developed last season.

He was getting his side of things aired way before Clarke had a chance to think about what to say, let alone actually say anything, which put him and his advisors on the back foot.

In the end they had to either refute PDC's claims with their counter claim/s, then follow up with their version of events - leaving them looking like whinging twats -  or shut the fuck up.

If you are PDC, getting the first shot in is a smart move as your comments are quickly vacuumed up and distributed almost instantly by news agencies stationed at all levels of the pyramid.

Granted, STFC won't make much of an impression at Reuters on an average news day, but PDC is global. What he says and does is guaranteed to create a story that will be picked up, even if it's only a small story in relative terms.

Responses to his comments won't really register unless the story is massive or the individuals involved are similar big hitters.

PDC knows that.

He's stitched the Bodin's up (in media terms) like a kipper.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 23:38:45
Maybe he would've improved under us, maybe he'd have got some game time but it wouldn't have been enough judging by him saying he wanted guarantees of first team football. He's 19 and he's coming out with that sort of thing? Sorry buddy but you ain't earned that yet.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on his departure. Probably best thing for club and player to let him go to Torquay.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 01:55:55



Lastly, Crewe were interested, but not that interested, that's why he has gone to the seaside. Crewe have an envious pedigree of producing youngsters to be groomed for the premier league. Ask yourself why BB did not end up there.
Maybe because daddy told him not too, if rumours are to be believed Bodin snr will follow jnr to Torquay.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: fatbasher on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 06:18:26
Maybe because daddy told him not too, if rumours are to be believed Bodin snr will follow jnr to Torquay.

No, try "because he's not better than what they have or could get for league one". If he was that good and showed something Paolo had obviously missed then they would have snapped him up.

As they didn't push to hard to get him, then, yep maybe Paul said "You know what son. You'll get more game time at Torquay. Use that to develop your future . Go there Martin and Shaun are old buddies they'll look after you".

And so it came to pass that BB went to the seaside.

Time to move on, nothing to see here folks.

 


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Only Me on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 07:04:14
PDC showed he likes to get the first shot in the press when the Clarke situation developed last season.

He was getting his side of things aired way before Clarke had a chance to think about what to say, let alone actually say anything, which put him and his advisors on the back foot.

In the end they had to either refute PDC's claims with their counter claim/s, then follow up with their version of events - leaving them looking like whinging twats -  or shut the fuck up.

If you are PDC, getting the first shot in is a smart move as your comments are quickly vacuumed up and distributed almost instantly by news agencies stationed at all levels of the pyramid.

Granted, STFC won't make much of an impression at Reuters on an average news day, but PDC is global. What he says and does is guaranteed to create a story that will be picked up, even if it's only a small story in relative terms.

Responses to his comments won't really register unless the story is massive or the individuals involved are similar big hitters.

PDC knows that.

He's stitched the Bodin's up (in media terms) like a kipper.

I understand and agree with what you are saying. I was just referring to the generalisation statement and my comment still stands


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 08:12:12
No, try "because he's not better than what they have or could get for league one". If he was that good and showed something Paolo had obviously missed then they would have snapped him up.

As they didn't push to hard to get him, then, yep maybe Paul said "You know what son. You'll get more game time at Torquay. Use that to develop your future . Go there Martin and Shaun are old buddies they'll look after you".

And so it came to pass that BB went to the seaside.

Time to move on, nothing to see here folks.

 
Uh...Right


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 17:14:03
It's officially official...

[url width=320 height=256]http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/javaImages/b4/1b/0,,10341~11017140,00.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 17:19:23
He has a pointy head so Torquay are welcome to him.


Title: Re: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 21:39:46
Ling needs to go pre-season training by the look of it....


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Gullscorer on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:00:52
This may help to set the record straight regarding Paul Bodin:
http://www.torquayunited.com/page/News/0,,10445~2833159,00.html


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:05:36
If Billy is his own man why did daddy text PDC about not bringing him to italy?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:14:13
If Billy is his own man why did daddy text PDC about not bringing him to italy?

Quite


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:14:56
proof?



Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:22:24
Does it fucking matter?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Bathtime on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:28:04
He has a pointy head so Torquay are welcome to him.

A bit late I know but this made me  :D


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Gullscorer on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:29:51
So why post the comment? IF Paul Bodin DID send such a txt, it simply shows that he too is his own man.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: carbonwhite on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:41:02
So why post the comment? IF Paul Bodin DID send such a txt, it simply shows that he too is his own man.
Which comment? Paul did protest Billy not being txt about starting training.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 16:58:14
This may help to set the record straight regarding Paul Bodin:
http://www.torquayunited.com/page/News/0,,10445~2833159,00.html

Well said Lingy.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 17:38:12
Well said Lingy.
Agreed.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 17:39:18
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9793789.Paolo_confirms_Bodin_deal_is_close/

“Someone, especially his father Paul, protested with the club because we didn’t send the text message to Billy Bodin to train him,” he said.

“He’s not a club player if he didn’t sign and doesn’t want to sign.

“He was, in my opinion, the man that said ‘don’t sign for Swindon’ because I don’t think Billy Bodin knows what to do in his life yet and I can’t understand the situation where the father and the son decide ‘don’t sign for Swindon, we want to go to Torquay’.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 17:44:04
Clearly uncle Martin is protecting his mates son  :fishing:

Urgh. The transfer is done. Move on.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 17:47:36
At least Lingy got the most important fact about this saga right

"I understand Swindon are a bigger club than us"


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 17:56:35
Why Di Canio had to say the things he said to the press is beyond me. Have some class and keep it in house.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: DRS on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:03:41
On the flip side bodin should keep his nose out of first team business... No?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:05:54
It's irrelevant Dean, these type of things make the whole club look amateurish. Sort it out in house not via the press.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:11:05
I don't think it makes the club looks amateurish at all as a result of this.

It will be long, long forgotten within a matter of weeks.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:11:50
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a shit?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:15:01
I don't think it makes the club looks amateurish at all as a result of this.

It will be long, long forgotten within a matter of weeks.

These things happen all the time in football, you rarely hear managers criticise one of their staff in public, it's wrong and shouldn't happen.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:16:09
They'll get over it.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: mrverve on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:17:39
They'll get over it.

Of course it'll blow over, it always does but that's not the point.



Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Uncletrunx on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:21:11
To me, it looks like unnecessary ill feeling and acrimony over what should be a relatively straightforward transfer.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:21:43
The club have not published nor have they openly supported these comments. This really isn't a big deal.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Langers on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:25:19
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a shit?

No.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:29:21
...at least the information provided by PDC prevents a thread consisting of "OMG BODIN IS A TOTAL LEDGE WHY ARE THE CLUB DOING THIS?" hysteria when he eventually goes.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:42:03
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a shit?

No


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: corner on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:42:21
Am I the only one that doesn't really give a shit?
no! Bodin? Who?


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 18:42:35
To me, it looks like unnecessary ill feeling and acrimony over what should be a relatively straightforward transfer.
Exactly. Bodin would have struggled to get on the bench at Swindon. He will start most games for Torquay. It was a no brainer for him to go to Torquay.

There's just too much 'media' these days.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 19:06:19
Considering Di canio's shunning of Bodin Snr since he took over Bodin has fuck all to lose so i reckon he was just letting di canio know his feelings on the matter.
I'm amazed he is still at the club


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: janaage on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 19:11:27
Considering Di canio's shunning of Bodin Snr since he took over Bodin has fuck all to lose so i reckon he was just letting di canio know his feelings on the matter.
I'm amazed he is still at the club

Maybe Di Canio doesn't mind people speaking their mind, in the right way. 


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Baggins on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 20:13:04
This is a very long thread for a very small story.  And now I've added to it.  Ace.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 20:28:35
This is a very long thread for a very small story.  And now I've added to it.  Ace.

WAHEY!!!!

The more the merrier


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 20:33:16
I'm shunning this thread


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: Gullscorer on Thursday, July 5, 2012, 21:22:46
I'm shunning this thread
No you aren't..   :D


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: bobby barnes jink on Friday, July 6, 2012, 00:46:22
No you aren't..   :D


No but I am.

Bugger.


Title: Re: Billy Bodin
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, July 20, 2012, 09:37:25
According to Torquay local rag Swansea had made an enquiry about BB, don't know how true that is or whether they are trying to justify spending £70,000 on a Swindon reserve player!!