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Town keen to keep duo
           

  MICHAEL Timlin and Lecsinel Jean-Francois are two of the out-of-contract players Swindon are keen to keep for next season.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9047671.Town_keen_to_keep_duo/?ref=rss
           

Looks like the rest are off then except Timlin & LJF

Douglas > Timlin

Timlin will go to Southend for guaranteed first team football. LJF will re-sign IMO. Dougie will stay Cuthbert will go... again IMO.

Cuthbert wants to stay and is happy with the reduced wages... whether we decide to keep him is another matter

probably on twice the money too.

Douglas is twice the player Timlin is, so it evens out.

 Happy if LJF stays as he's one of the half dozen or so who'd I'd keep....Timlin wasn't on my list, but suppose he'd make a Div 4 squad player....Douglas and Cuthbert, especially Douglas were always out of the door.  Cuthbert somewhat complicated by age...we might expect a fee.

Such is the need for the new broom to clean the Augean stable....that it's only right to expect this to take a while. Lou Macari couldn't achieve promo in his first season in Div 4

So its Nathan Thompson, Mark Scott, Timlin and LJF being offered new deals, strange one if you ask me.  Cuthbert and Douglas almost ever presents, Tims struggling to get on the bench let alone play yet is offered a new deal!

Not last season....

What the bloody hell are you nattering on about now Reginald?

Confirmed on BBC Radio Swindon

Offers

Nathan Thompson, Mark Scott, Michael Timlin & Lescinel Jean Francois all offered 1 year contracts.

Outs

Jonathan Douglas, Vincent Pericard, Scott Cuthbert, Polish keeper Jesionowski  & Alan Sheehan

Can only assume Douglas was due to wages. I know he was shit last season, but we all know the class is really there.

Shame :(

Can't believe they've got rid of the player who came second in the Player of the Year voting!

Quite happy with that overall.

Sad to see Cuthbert and Douglas go.

No room for sentiment I suppose.

Fuck me. Thats shocking

It doesn't say anyone is definitely out on the OS.  It says that so far these are the offers that have been made and the club will put out further announcements on the other out of contract players or the ones with contract options in the ensuing days.

Classical reference to the Labours of Hercules....what with Our Leader being Roman.

Sorry but the radio says different none of the 5 listed as outs will be offered contracts. I wouldn't take any notice of the OS site either the news on there is so slow updating and out of date recently

I'm wondering if money is not the issue.

I'm wondering if Douglas & Cuthbert didn't express they wanted it enough.

I just figured that Cuthbert, Douglas and Pericard were different as we had options to extend.

Cuthbert was our most used player and Douglas our skipper... Surely, they'd release a statement instead of saying "those not on the list have not made it."

Ah

Perspective

I would assume we have not picked up the option years for Cuthbert and Douglas due to wages. I do however think we will negotiate with them again as free agents to get their wages lower and re-sign them on different contracts on lower wages if they really want to stay.

Ofcourse they will get more money elsewhere but...

Wouldn't be upset if that's how it turns out. Neither Cuthbert or Douglas lived up to their form from the previous season... not that many did.

Seems strange we didn't offer cuthbert a deal if only for him being under 24 and we could have got some cash on tribunal?

For all we know they may have told wray they don't want to stay.

At least Timlin gave a damn and put in some effort when brought on.

When you look at it in black and White, we offered contracts to those who gave 100% when brought on as opposed to players that consistently underperformed.

Tbf, I'd go out there and give 100%. Doesn't mean I'd deserve a contract. I can't see Timlin being more than a bit part player next season (I hope not anyway), so it suprises me we've offered him a contract

Agreed.

Still proven a useful squad player though. If he went, we'd just have to replace him with another squad player.

I'm won't be surprised if we lose Cuthbert and Douglas. We probably can't afford to keep them, and they probably don't want to stay. I was told Cuthbert didn't on the tried and ever ropey grape vine. That was a while ago and thing change. We'll see.

Timlin I'm not sure about. If I were building a team would he be one that I'd build my midfield around? NO. Is he good enough for league 2? YES. Personally I think he needs to leave for his own sanity.

I like Lecs the person (from what I have seen). I'm not 100% convinced about Lecs the centre back. I'd probably offer him a year deal and see.

The size of the rebuilding job needed is scary.

True. Like Batch says though I'd have thought he'd want to leave for the sake of his own career.

This!

Agreed.  I'm starting to worry that we'll end up with a squad half made up of Italian youth team players!

Di Canio's already said he'll be getting in mostly English players

There really is no option than to get rid of most of last season's...most of  these players were unsuited to Div 3 let alone 4.

Hart said someone now has a golden opportunity to fashion a squad....we've got no clue how di Canio will go about it, but it would be a considerable achievement to fashion a winning side immediately.

You make the point well. Not disagreeing it is necessary. It is.  But unless we spend a bucket load on proven  quality the chances of getting a blend that leads to success would seem remote!

Keeping Ferry, Caddis and Ritchie will be a plus. But we probably need to find a new back 4, 3 strikers and a couple of midfielders MINIMUM!

To be fair, the turnover of players at clubs these days is horrendous.

Managers in the lower leagues have to get used to working with a squad of players where the majority of players come and go inside 2 seasons.

True enough, but I can't remember having started with such a blank (team) sheet of paper. Maybe under Wise.

Perhaps Cuthbert and Douglas will stay and the task will seem a little smaller.

I was about to say it will help form the spine of the team.

But 'spine' didn't seem an appropriate word.

They have been known to get rid of the winner on many occasions!

So youre as good as Timlin-thats a crap argument!

I did think that we'd try to keep hold of Douglas and Cuthbert, but I won't shed any tears if they both go.

As I said after the Greer transfer last season, it doesnt matter who they sell, its all about the quality of the replacements. So lets hope we've learnt from our mistakes.

According to twitter, Douglas is currently in Australia and has been since before Di Canio joined.

Maybe their waiting till he gets back to discuss contracts etc which is why he hasn't been announced.

Douglas has said previously that he wanted to stay. He said his agent would sort all that out.

without doubt this is the club cutting its cloth accordingly.The big earners are being shown the door and the lesser earners being kept on. Di canio better be good in the transfer market and a motivator of what he's inherited or we're fucked.

Douglas is overated imo. A decent player for sure but 1 goal in 2 seasons is a dreadfull return.Not worth what we were paying him, hence why he's gone.

I would be fairly baffled if Douglas and Cuthbert aren't offered deals, if it's due to wages then fair enough but Dougie would be the best player in that league by a mile.

I'd be disappointed if Douglas and Cuthbert weren't kept on.
OK, they didn't have great seasons last year, but neither did anyone.
The season before they were both great, so would hope they can recapture that form and confidence under di Canio.