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I think I'm in good company when I say I cannot believe the current run of form we're on, but looking at the next seven games it's still doable!  Our run-in looks like this:

Hartlepool (H)
Brentford (A)
Franchise (H)
Notts County (H)
Sheff Weds (A)
Oldham (H)
Tranmere (A)

Ordinarily, I'd be confident of managing 16 points from those games, especially given the opposition's respective runs of form.  We just need goals.  Hartlepool on Saturday is a must-win, and I know this was said pre-Charlton, but I firmly believe a win would reignite the side and allow us to push on.  Perhaps I'm delusion, definitely I'm delusion, but I'd at least like us to go down with a fight.

It seems currently as though the team has given up.  Even the website appears to be little more than hopeful fans will turn up, with the only away ticket news currently showing for the fucking Wiltshire Shield.  Anyone know how much tickets from Brentford are?

I liked the look of the line-up last night but for whatever reason we didn't get the result.  Please please please let it be our Saturday.

If we weren't so shit, winning those games would be perfectly doable.

I can't see us winning a game until we're mathmatically down (mid April).

Would be pleasantly shocked if we got more then 7 points from those games.  We will draw most of them

...but dont you see a slight contradiction in a team which hasnt won in 16 games or whatever it is suddenly winning 6 on the bounce?

The problem I see is we're not a team that has lost 16 on the bounce.  Different management, a combination of weird and wonderful formations and managers mean it isn't the same team that has suffered this run.  Eventually, the realisation that we're going down we're dawn on the players and they'll play.  They're good players.  Form is temporary, class is permanent.

No we're not.

It's the hope that gets you in the end.

this is a wind up yes, have a look at the fixture list and look at the teams that have already turned us over,
the teams above aint that good but we are fucking shit, it also makes me laugh how some get new found confidence of us staying up between games, only to to have that hope well and truly put in its place come match day, its over, give it up

yes, again......and again.....and again....and again etc etc...

16 points wouldnt keep us up anyway.

last night killed all my resurgent hope. fuck it, bring on the scum.

The one good thing to come out of last night for me is now I KNOW we are going down. Had we won last night, and then maybe again on Saturday I would have been more hopeful only to have those hopes dashed in the last few games. Because we lost last night any thoughts I had of beating the drop have gone and now I don't have to suffer any more heartbreak this season.

I like your optimism, but it's much too tall an order to escape now with only 7 games to go.

Yep. I thought it months ago, but couldn't live with myself going the rest of the season with no hope.

But that last tiny flame has been extinguished.

We will go remainder of season not winning another match, scoring probably no more than 5 goals in the process. Sorry but we will finish rock bottom.

No we are not

Repeat this to yourself over & over and you will find the next month and a bit much easier to take

:nod:

I've always been optimistic.  You won't find one post on here suggesting we're going down!  (Stands ready to be corrected...)  I will be optimistic until we're mathematically down.  We do have some blind pessimists on here, so I feel I need to restore the balance.  I'm sure the people who were saying we'd go down in October are delighted by our current predicament, and were almost waiting for Danny Wilson to fail.

In my time since supporting Swindon, (vaguely McMahon era, properly Andy King era), I have never once seen us as a fanbase get behind one manager.  The closest we got was with Dennis Wise, but he wasn't here long.  I imagine it's the same with a lot of teams, but it seems a shame we can't get a regime in that the fan base is behind 100%.  I really think next season needs a big name next year, but as we're staying up Hart will get the job full time.

We've got 34 points. We need around 49/50 to stay up. We need 16 points from a possible 21. We need to win 5 games and draw another one for that to happen. Can we stay unbeaten in 6 of our last 7 games and win 5? Not impossible but highly unlikely.

walrus - can i have some of your Valium please?

I just cannot understand why we're not in the Champions League this season...  we have some real world beaters in our team!   :D

You're on drugs.

Not a chance we'll stay up.

I'm more concerned the momentum from this season will carry on into the next and we'll go out of the fucking league !

we all stayed behind Wilson as long as we could.

I expect we'll get 100% behind a manager when we find one who knows how to win games.

The rest of your post is utter delusional bullshit but I think you're on the wind up anyway.

At the end of this season, whether we make the great escape, or (more likely) not. Come kick off next season the reality is we'll all have bitched and moaned, and psychollogically the slate will have been wiped. New season, new manager, mistakes of last year learnt from and new players coming in. No one can rectify a season retrospectively.

I for one do not blame the board in the manner some supporters do, as we have to accept our 'saviours' are pretty new at this 'running a league football club' malarkey and we all make mistakes. Providing those mistakes are learnt from, I anticipate the fans will get right behind the club for a succesful L2 campaign next season.

On that note, can anyone confirm which players are still contracted for next season? And which players' contracts run out this summer?

Also, and apols if this has been done before, but can someone explain exactly how the salary cap works in L2? Ta

As far as I can remember.

Contracted for next season....

Lucas
Benyon
Caddis
Ferry
Flint
Misun
Rose
Prutton ??

Players total salary is capped at 60% turnover, presumably from the previous financial year.

I think it's a projected turnover but you have to submit figures to the League to back it up. So it would be reasonable for a side promoted from the Conference to have a projected turnover higher than their previous year, as perhaps for (say) a club that had moved to a new ground from an out-of-town groundshare.

Whereas it would be pretty ridiculous for a side to say they anticipated a projected turnover twenty times the previous season when they hadn't been promoted/moved etc but based on some entirely fake Middle Eastern investment that predictably never materialised. I'm looking at you, Notts County

I'm not on the wind-up.  What I cannot grasp is all the in-fighting.  I was under the impression supporting a team was about wanting the team to win and do well?  I appreciate blind optimism can be irritating, but is it all that harmful?  It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

I agree that our momentum is a worry.  If we don't win before the end of the season, the pessimism pre-next season will be unbearable.  We'll need some bloody easy games to get us into our stride, but then that's been our problem.  There aren't many easy games at this level (don't tell me their aren't any, as some teams have had some fucking easy games against us this season). 

What I can't understand is we're not getting tonked.  We're losing by the odd goal.  A team this bad should be travelling to places like Charlton and Huddersfield and getting hammered, if not by the scoreline then at least by chance ratio and possession.

Even as a Wilson-enthusiast, I thought the appointment of Hart would see us grab a few wins as bringing in a new regime usually does.  The form and performances under Hart say the underlying problems run much deeper than with the management, and sit firmly in the mindset of the players.  Even as ardent supporters, I think it is reasonable to suggest this team is more than good enough to stay in this league - if anyone says "the table doesn't lie" they're getting a slap.

The table doesn't lie.

The fat lady has sung and then choked on her own vomit.

Still a glimmer of hope but it dont look good thats for sure.

I think Dougie triggered a clause in his contract for a third year after he played in 25 games this season. I'm not sure though.

Be interesting to see at the end of the season who stays and who goes. From what Nick Watkins said all of the players have a clause in their contracts to take a wage cut if we were to get relegated.

I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Cuthbert, Sheehan and Dossevi are already talking to other clubs.

really?


It does, we should be bottom as Plymouth have picked up more points than us technically.

There is no way we will stay up. It's prettty much mission impossible now.

They can all fuck off. I'd happilly see the back of all the useless cunts and start again. Gutless fuckers one and all. Whats the betting once we are officially relegated we'll win a couple of games?

Hmm. How is this all looking NOW?
I know many thought the fat lady sung after last week. But how many have changed their minds?
I for one, am hopeful of the last game. The thing that REALLY bugged me today is the Tranmere win, but who can complain? We WON today.

Where is the Walrus :D

Stop this mental anguish now

I'm not sure how to react. We've won.

Maybe the victory has given me false optimism but I have a strange feeling that this might kick start our season.  Don't get me wrong, this still won't hide the fact this season has and still is a shambles but maybe just maybe it might all have a happy ending after all or maybe I've just opened myself up for some abuse!