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Wilson to Rovers

How much of a kick in the balls would it be if that did happen and he steered them to safety!

huge but not surprising.

Rovers managed to hang onto Will Hoskins in January, he'll score goals.

Yeah no shock, was never taken to by the fans either.

I'd be more confident of us staying up than Rovers.

And I'm not in the least bit confident that we'll stay up.

Abit like Hart here then. Can't say i've taken to him at all.

Dour, boring and plays negative football.

And he reminds me of Malpass.

I didn't think Saturday (according to reports) was anything like that

a desperate move for rovers at a desperate time.like us, worth the gamble

I was refering to playing 1 up front at home.

Fortunately, not going to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bristol_rovers/9417489.stm

Their record under him was lost 9 out of the last 13. That's terrible. A lot like losing 8 out of the last 12, in fact

How the fuck can you say that after 1 game? We need points to stay up. I understand that we got 1 point on Saturday. Nobody is stating that we will stay up with 12 draws but Saturday was a start!

whilst he wasn't my first choice in fairness he's had 2 days to look at the players and he decided to go with 4.5.1. it was a safe move. nothing wrong with that

So you enjoyed saturday did you Dirk ?

4-5-1 against dogshit like Walsall at home.

but we're dog shite too Ralph.

Yep we are. May as well give it a good go though.

And you'd be happy with giving it a go and losing? 

We're not gonna stay up by drawing every single game are we.

Teams like Walsall are must win.

we dont have the players to give it a go.we have to make ourselves harder to beat, which is what hart is doing.
the rest of the season is going to be ugly.might just work though

It won't work if the rest of the season is like saturday.

Walsall didn't even want to win. We should have gone 442 at half time and 433 if it was still 0-0 with 20 to go.

It was a must win game and it was there for the taking!

i think it's unlikely to work,but can see the logic in it.
i didn't go saturday so cannot comment on the game itself.

I'd rather we went for it against teams that are not around us. We might need to win but we also cannot afford to give 3 points to the likes of Walsall.

I agree with that reasoning totally.

If you don't concede you can't lose. As disappointing as Sat was, a draw is much better than a loss. I agree 442, or 433 would've been better but imagine if we lost?! 

Imagine if we won? Same thing really. Draw wasn't good enough for me.

I'm not sure even fB's imagination, could conceive of such wild unlikeliness.

But not losing is better imo. A win would've been nice, but if we lost then we'd be further adrift. It was his first game in charge, so lets not get on his back too soon!

It's funny though, a change of manager just proves that shit players are still shit.

Expensive mistake for Rovers. I was dreading getting Penney here when Wilson was appointed because I didnt think he had the credentials for the job.

A win wouldn't have been "nice" - wins are "nice" when you're midtable. When you're playing at home against one of the sides who's right in the shit with you at the start of a run of 3 such games (and the easiest of the 3), a win isn't nice, it's bloody vital.

It just goes to show that a new manager doesn't always result in a change of fortune.

Still turned us over though :)

Rovers' season has been just as pathetic as ours.

 :nod:

My mate who's an Oldham fan just mentioned this to me. Seems viable. And would be horrendous if he goes there and keeps them up at our expense. As they say though, it's pretty much in our hands as to if we stay up or not. Just a shame those hands are terrible at scoring goals and indeed defending, two fairly fundemental features of this game that is actuall starting to do my head in!

Don't think it'll be a problem, Stuart Campbell's been named player manager until end of the season.

Wilson isnt good at fighting relegation.

If he took over at Rovers it would be more a worry that he would lead them to the L2 championship next season.

I see why Ralphy is miffed...it was a negative performance in some ways...but there were positives out of it.....being these.

1-over 10,000 even with the free tickets was superb.

2-Hitting the woodwork twice means you could count yourself unlucky.

3-Walsall,a form side didn't have one shot on target,which leads me to

4-A good clean sheet...the defence has taken a lot of stick and rightly so but they deserve some praise for Saturdays shut out.

Pity we couldn't have got young Mason,looks a good player and have a bad feeling he could feature tomorrow on the scoresheet.

I'd agree with this statement if I hadnt actually gone to the game and seen how toothless, attacking less and how much Walsall had no intention to win that game.

We were never going to lose that game in a month of sundays.


The position we are in a draw is no better than a defeat.


I'd say more than bloody vital.

Infact, i'd go as far as to say not winning that game saturday will relegate us.

Ours has been a fair bit worse, considering the money spent and expectation at the start of the season. They kept hold of their best player in January so are still in with a chance.

I'm not interested in seeing the two clubs whip out their dicks to see who's is smallest.

Will Hoksins hasn't scored in five and their form hasn't improved ALL SEASON. Heck they've won the same amount of games as Swindon and yet somehow they have this reputation from our fans of being more likely to win a game.

This all standard 'woe is me' nonsense, I'm sure the Gasheads are all are saying to themselves "not to worry folks, Will Hoskins will keep us" ... Perhaps not.

They wont stay up. Neither will we.

But we should have the finances to hit back next season. Not so sure about them.

Finances only count for something if they're used in the right way...we need pretty much a complete re-build, but it must be the type of player effective in Div4....consider the last time, Lee Peacock was PotY...never the most gifted but a grafter.
 
Roberts, was also useful that year, someone with a bit of edge....later on we had goals from Corr and young Lukas to get us over the line....big buggers.

The old head on Williams, could make Jerel useful down there.

Sturrock has got Sarfend there or thereabouts, on essentially nothing, if he had next season you'd expect to go back up. The Board have to get this one right, or we could be hanging about for a while.

Rovers and Trollope did it on the back of Lambert, who Wise wanted.  How much of that success was down to Trollope and how much Lawrence, we'll never know.

If he did this v Plymouth then I'd absolutely agree. Away from home we have been leaking goals left, right, centre, just off centre, leftish but not as left as left.....

We were already hard to score against at home over the last 6 games (4 draws (3x0-0, 1x1-1) and 2 losses (both 1-0 defeats). We needed to turn that into wins. This is what could keep us up, but we seem incapable of being attacking.

It's Franchise all over again.

All good shouts.

Worth noting that Matt Ritchie scored 11 goals for the Daggers in League 2 2008–2009. No idea what position that was in, mind. One would imagine he'd be a key player for us should we do the expected and go down.

Roberts did my head in that season after Wise left. It was an absolute relief to watch Corr, Jutkiewicz and even Blair Sturrock come in towards the end of the season. I think Paul Sturrock knew an alkie when he saw one (takes one to know one?) and was realistic as to where Roberts was going.

Frampton and Flint will be fine. Amankwaah will depend on whether he gets on with the new manager, he needs an arm around his shoulder. Could be the making of Ferry, but then he might have an agent who thinks he is too good for div 4? Ritchie and Benyon have been successful in this league before. So we need about 11 players. We need a wheeler dealer, like Sturrock as you say.

Monkhouse was a good L2 player. An ungainly player, but very effective and very grateful to be playing League football. The complete opposite to someone like Caddis, who has tasted the highlife and isnt that effective in the lower leagues.

I think people give League 2 too much respect. With this current team in that league, we would walk it. I'm sorry but League 2 is piss poor.

I think you are forgetting something there....

Nope.  Hes not forgetting anything.

I've heard rumours that Paul Hart is going to take it on as an extra job in an attempt to be the only manager who's ever simultaneously relegated two teams.

Give the job to Iffy Onuora.
Rovers are going done anyway

would we fuck.league 1 is piss poor too.
look at teams who have great seasons in div 4, then come up and keep the momentum going in div 3.likewise teams who slide down the leagues.
there aint much in it.

I'll give you that the league this year was not as strong as last years but League 2 is much weaker.

When we got relegated from this league in 2006 it was a much weaker league than this years one.

disagree.its all much as it was imo.
teams seem more evenly matched, rather than leagues being poorer.

The season we got relegated Southend were champions with 82 points, the same amount we got last season and they went straight back down with virtually the same team from the Championship that year. In League 2 we finished 3rd, we were up there all season, not playing well and winning 1-0, 2-1 etc. With this team in League 2 next season we would be strong, no doubt about it.

I take your point though, the division in 2006 was much more even but doesn't that make it a poorer league because there were no real good teams??

i meant the leagues are more even now.all of them.
that said,the difference is minimal imo.

My two penneth - if we kept the exact same team next year, we'd get kicked all over the place and finish somewhere midtable. We don't have the fight for a relegation battle, so i sure as hell don't think we have the fight to win League 2 battles every week.