Title: Carlisle Away Post by: Langers on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 20:45:49 Dont know weather to go or not...
Anyone else going? Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:11:36 There's another thread I started ages ago, but yes I'm going, there's a few of us on the 09.30 from Euston, and looks to be around 20+ on the 17.52 back. Top of my head Mex and Spencer are also going off here.
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:16:17 Whats everyone's team for this?
Same as tonight? Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:34:05 Whats everyone's team for this? Roughly.........Douglas back in if fit is a no brainer and guess depends if Sheehan is match fit or whether Wilson will let Kennedy have ar unSame as tonight? Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:35:05 Left Wing?
Timlin?! Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:36:33 Left Wing? Depends how he played as he's the one name from tonights starting line up who doesn't seem to have been mentioned muchTimlin?! Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:38:05 I hope Dougie is fit, or I fear that that lazy cunt prutton will be back in.
Then I will hang myself Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 21:40:18 I hope Dougie is fit, or I fear that that lazy cunt prutton will be back in. Agreed, Douglas and Ferry for every game that they are both available please WilsonThen I will hang myself Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 22:20:50 It might be that Ferry and Prutton are the best pairing, best to wait and see before writing off Prutton.
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 22:37:31 ferry played right midfield tonight, mcgovern was in the centre
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: DV on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 05:37:51 Lucas
Amankwaah Cuthbert Morrison Kennedy Ferry JPM Evans Timlin Pericard Austin If it aint broke... ...I'd be tempted to put Douglas back in if he is fit but even then not sure (I know how odd that sounds, but fuck it - that main XI tonight earnt it) Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 07:11:01 i would definately put douglas in instead of evans.
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: glos_robin on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 07:28:34 i would definately put douglas in instead of evans. Same there's no way you can leave our captain & player of the season out of the team for a youngster based on one game.Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 07:30:17 and douglas was still better than evans even with an injury, evans has a lot to learn but looks a dead good prospect
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 08:06:44 Danny isn't one for sticking with what he sees as a weak team though is he? I'd say that the back 4 might be the same, although perhaps with Sheehan on the left, and then with a midfield of OB, Ferry, Prutts (Dougie if fit) and JP, with the front pairing as they were.
I can see Prutton and Ferry working well together as Prutton prefers the Dougie role (isn't this what he did for Col U?) and Ferry, although obviously more than capable of playing as a holding midfielder, works best in the box to box all action role. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 09:49:38 dont people remember the games where ferry was totally ineffective last season?
decent player, and a welcome addtion,but not as great as some seem to think he is.likewise, prutton aint as bad as some make out either. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 10:13:51 dont people remember the games where ferry was totally ineffective last season? decent player, and a welcome addtion,but not as great as some seem to think he is.likewise, prutton aint as bad as some make out either. I agree with you there has been alot of exaggeration about both players but think thats what football fans do Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:07:58 Danny isn't one for sticking with what he sees as a weak team though is he? No he isn't....Mark Marshall came in for Soton away last season did OK and was dropped for Frank Nouble the next game. I suppose a lot will depend on how fit Sheehan is....if he's fit I think he'll start. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:25:49 dont people remember the games where ferry was totally ineffective last season? decent player, and a welcome addtion,but not as great as some seem to think he is.likewise, prutton aint as bad as some make out either. Danny Ward had quiet ineffective games for us also. But other players could step up when he wasn't firing on all cylinders. That's football though, even the best players in the world have quiet games sometimes. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:39:00 I'd keep it the same, but with Prutton in for Timlin with Kennedy / Sheehan and Evans / Douglas dependent on fitness and whether Wilson thinks the youngsters are up for it.
We need to give it a proper run with Douglas, Ferry, McGovern and Prutton as the midfield whether it is a flat or diamond formation. Don't see any need for a leftie on the left, only thing is I wouldn't play Douglas and Prutton in the middle together under any circumstances. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:00:41 I'd keep it the same, but with Prutton in for Timlin with Kennedy / Sheehan and Evans / Douglas dependent on fitness and whether Wilson thinks the youngsters are up for it. We need to give it a proper run with Douglas, Ferry, McGovern and Prutton as the midfield whether it is a flat or diamond formation. Don't see any need for a leftie on the left, only thing is I wouldn't play Douglas and Prutton in the middle together under any circumstances. So, not the same then ? Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: DV on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 13:03:13 dont people remember the games where ferry was totally ineffective last season? Yes, all what 2 or 3 of them. I suppose, most people just choose to remember the other 40 odd where he was pretty damn good. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 13:22:34 Torres had an 'ineffective' world cup, still a class player
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 14:27:25 I think it's a bit like Sheehan, you don't appreciate things until they are missed.
Make no mistake, Ferry isn't the finished article and has a few shortcomings. One of the things I noticed at the back end of last season is his willingness to drive forward and take a few more shots, something which he does need to do more of. It sounded like he was doing the same last night, though I'm relying on Shaun's commentary in my assumption. The encouraging thing is he isn't stagnating or going backwards here, he's obviously been told to do certain things and is learning. Personally I think that's why he is class. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:35:46 Yes, all what 2 or 3 of them. I suppose, most people just choose to remember the other 40 odd where he was pretty damn good. 40 is an exaggeration for sure.he went missing or struggled badly in quite a few matches. now i'm not knocking the lad,far from it.he is young and has plenty of potential to improve further.but people seeing him as the answer, and prutton as the problem are wrong imo. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:38:38 40 is an exaggeration for sure.he went missing or struggled badly in quite a few matches. now i'm not knocking the lad,far from it.he is young and has plenty of potential to improve further.but people seeing him as the answer, and prutton as the problem are wrong imo. And in my opinion, due mostly to the fact that we have only won one game this year, it's you that's wrong. Having Prutton in at the expense of Ferry is our main problem. That's not a dig at Prutton either, I just think we have to have Ferry in the team. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:39:12 i think he should play too.my points been missed i think.
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:39:35 At the expense of Prutton?
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: DV on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:39:38 we've clearly missed Ferry this season and Pruttons been wank.
There is nothing more to it. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: guy66 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 15:40:56 Anyone know any decent (not flood damaged) pubs between the station and the ground?
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 16:00:37 GW and Queens Tap are right outside the station ;)
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 16:45:54 we've clearly missed Ferry this season and Pruttons been wank. There is nothing more to it. In the games I've seen (home league) Douglas has been wankier than Prutton. But I'd stick Prutton on the left and keep Douglas and Ferry in the middle, would help provide a bit more cover on the left as well. Don't get why there is always the need to play a left footed player on the left of midfield. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 17:24:15 God forbid Prutton on the wing.
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 17:25:19 Id rather have Darren Bullock left wing
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: SCM on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:28:47 The Prutton abuse is getting ridiculous.
He's been nowhere near as bad as some make out. None of the new signings have set the world alight, which is often the case 6 games into a season. Chill out ladies. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:38:24 just saying he would be a shite winger
Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:42:49 we've clearly missed Ferry this season and Pruttons been wank. There is nothing more to it. Prutton and JD have both been below par. I would pick Ferry as my constant and let the other 2 battle it out... Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: SCM on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:43:17 He played wide in the Prem for Saints a fair bit and scored a double on his Colchester debut from the same position.
You're just annoyed he's been keeping Ferry out the side ;) Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:44:42 just saying he would be a shite winger He might be a central midfielder but he's played a lot of games at right midfield (amongst various other positions). All this Prutton abuse does make me laugh though, mainly as no one will say a word against Douglas who has been useless so far this season. The bias is amazing - same as with LJF getting all the abuse last season. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:47:34 He played wide in the Prem for Saints a fair bit and scored a double on his Colchester debut from the same position. You're just annoyed he's been keeping Ferry out the side ;) How long ago was that?! We all know he's not the player he was at Saints. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:48:44 I think it wont be long before a midfield of:
Dougie Prutts Ferry JPM/Doss will be our first choice Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 19:56:28 I think it wont be long before a midfield of: Dougie Prutts Ferry JPM/Doss will be our first choice Agreed. Always thought JPM would make a good attacking midfielder, has the grit and determination. Charlton away semi final second leg, setting up Ward's goal stands out Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 20:02:39 Anyone know any decent (not flood damaged) pubs between the station and the ground? There's the Griffin right outside the station, where I'll have numbers 1 and 2. Then A cab to the Beehive about a mile away for numbers 3,4,5,6 and 7. That's only about 3 mins from the ground, so you can stay in the pub til around 2.50. which leaves time for 1 more in the ground before kickoff. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: DV on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 22:32:21 Douglas has been wank aswell, only slightly less wank than Prutton so you can shove your bias up your ass.
The difference is we have seen Douglas perform to a high standard and we have seen Douglas have a good midfield partnership with Ferry. Prutton thus far has done neither. Competition for places, the whole point of having a squad. Prutton thus far hasn't done enough to keep his place. Although if Douglas is injured he'll get back in saturday anyway but he'll have to up his game. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 23:03:41 He might be a central midfielder but he's played a lot of games at right midfield (amongst various other positions). All this Prutton abuse does make me laugh though, mainly as no one will say a word against Douglas who has been useless so far this season. The bias is amazing - same as with LJF getting all the abuse last season. What's this bias bullshit. Favouring a player who is playing better for our team, yes. Bias, no. Sorry forgot we have to say every player is the same. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: jb on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 23:08:28 The Prutton abuse is getting ridiculous. He's been nowhere near as bad as some make out. None of the new signings have set the world alight, which is often the case 6 games into a season. Chill out ladies. Granted some players need time to setlle in. However Austin, Sheehan, Douglas, Lucas, Ferry definately did not take 6 games to start playing well. Prutton wouldn't fuck me off so much if his work rate upped a bit. You don't need to be settled into a team to show desire and work rate. Ala Thomas Dossevi. Title: Re: Carlisle Away Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 23:28:09 Dougie hasn't been great this season, but then many haven't. I also think Dougie and Prutty tread on each others toes a fair bit, therefore restricting the movement of the other. If one were to be dropped, the other would perform far better I suspect.
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