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As we haven't won a game yet I shall continue the tradition of a new match day thread starter - till we win and become superstitious enough to believe it helps determine our results

I'm going to do the forum calendar this week and it will auto-create the matchday thread every fixture.

...then if we don't win any games its all your fault, cunt!

Nearer than a home game for me nowadays so I'm dragging along the girlfriend.

Nothing on the Adver site about Austin being out, so I'm plumping for a 3-1 win for Town with a brace from Charlie and Vince to break his duck

Scrappy 1-0 win for me.

Clean sheet would be a godsend.

Cant see it though, might put some money on both teams to score during the game.

I'm expecting us to lose today (hopefully I'm wrong)... I'll hope for a low scoring draw though.

I think we'll win because I always do. 3-1 to us.

2 1 to the Town. Pericard to score one and an assist.  Wont be enough to stop the Town fans wild celebration when he's subbed on 85 minutes

Got 1-1 draw written all over it for me, with Morrisson scoring from a corner.

Any points, nout wrong with an away draw!  :nod:

3-2 to us.

2-2.

Just because we're due a win I'm feeling 2-1 to us. :)

Got a bad vibe about today.....any result would make me happy.
May sneak a 1-0 win.

All we are saying, is give Vince a chance. (Sung in Beatles style).

Comfortable. 3-0 town.

2 2. In other news perranporth beach is sunny if a little windy. Back to Swindonshire this evening. Look forward to reading the match day thread later

I've woken up feeling good about it which means we probably won't win. I bloody hope i'm wrong though. I do fancy a Pericard goal today as well for strange reason.

Enjoy Batch.

Argyll is sunny & showery.  In other news, my plans to drive down to Carlisle next week have been scuppered, so I'm not happy.

Prediction: Filthy Franchise 0-2 Town.

For the record, I'm not judging anyone who goes to the Miltondome (or whatever they call it) just as I hope others don't judge me for boycotting.  Just make sure you sing loud and that we take all the points.

need a win today, not been to a game yet this season, so cant really judge on performances, but a win is a must i think

Same as, Ive started my boycott and I dont think Il ever go to a regular league match there again.

Why do you boycott games at the County Ground though? And every other football league ground?

Cheeky fucker.

I had a good feeling about today, till I read sonicyouth was going.

CUNT!

Unchanged today then.

Yes we are OST...

Lucas, Caddis, Cuthbert, Rose, JPM, Douglas, Prutton, O'Brien, Austin, Dossevi

I think we'll get a result today.

So do I.

of course we will get a result, how can we not get an actual result? might not be a positive result, but we will get one.

Un changed team, we seemed to have dropped Morrison, for no one.

we wont win because sonic is going.

Cunt.

COME ON SWINDON!!!!!

Let me re-phrase that..

C
  U
    N
      T

I think we'll lose. PROVE ME WRONG TOWN.

edit: actually might draw, but I want a win

Dooby dooby doo

well our clean sheet has lasted longer than it did last season.

Anything happened yet?

'No goals and no real action'

MK having all the chances.

Andy King is at the match!!

'there are fllames coming off the pitch' 

The real Wimbledon's gone 1-0 up...

Just got in from a spicy noodle meal and loads of Chinky Beer, hot as fuck here in Shanghai.
1-1 will do away at the boring roundabout plastic town with no soul.

Woooooo. Cuthbert with the goal!

Wahey

Whho, get in you silky badger!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First time this season we've been in the lead?

Swweeeet 8)

Glad we made use of Sean Morrisons throws at last!!

2 goals in 2 games from Morrison long throws.

get in!! :D

Woot!

funky

HT 0-1  :)

YESSS! :)

Franchise that you fookers!

Last week it was Rose`s throw although Morrison flicked it on.

Post of the day to ChinaWhitenRed.

We are their bogey team, and I love it.

It was Rose's long throw against Brentford. Morrison was only used towards the end of the game when Rose was subbed.

And by the way...Yaay.

So it was...

2 assists in 2 games from Sean Morrison.

:)

Pericard is a goal machine.

Pericard is a goal machine.

He's got longer this week to show us what he's made of - come on Big Vince!!

He's Vincent Pericard
And Swindon love to sing his name
We live in hope that he just might...
...one day score again

Shitty go 1-0 down...

'this time they are double teaming cuthbert'

O'Hanlon's no mug.

I'm loving the comedy.

Sounds like we're riding our luck a bit.

STOP GETTING SO EXCITED WHEN THE OTHER TEAM NEARLY SCORE!!

We'll be very lucky to snatch a win as Franchise are having more chances than us at the moment.
Time to score Vince!!

Agreed, he made me jump out of my fucking skin there.

Another corner, come on....

McGovern off, Amankwaah on.

Big Kev on for JP

if pericard scores I will go fucking apeshit.

Bugger. 1-1

good save form lucas - nearly shit myself - damn they've scored...

ooooooooooooh fuck off

YES!! GOAL!!

no, wait it was MK - dont sound so fucking excited Vic!!

fuck sake...

oh do fuck off

Have they scored again? Oh yeah. Thanks Vic.

bugger

FUCKING HELL VIC, YOU SOUNDED SO EXCITED I THOUGHT LUCAS HAD FUCKING SAVED THAT!!

SHIT! why are we playing Rose?

bollocks

Why is it Rose's fault?

came from a rose mistake apparently

Two goals in 1 minute  :badmood:

I blame Pericard.

yeah the first one did. Again!

I thought the cross came from the right side?

Cock...

we're gonna win 2-1.

which would be Rose side, no?

I can guarentee we wont!!

 :badmood:

How?  :hmmm:

I was looking at it from the other angle. The point is anyhow, Yes Rose made a mistake last week, but lets not make him a scape goat.

time travel

Buy their club and move it to Swindon?

Ah yes - hadn't thought of that - I think I'd rather lose than have that

Yes, but if Rose makes a mistake there really isnt anyone else to blame is there.

OK we're gonna lose 2-1

No very true, but can we really judge via your favourite commentator?

we can judge, not fairly mind you...

Putton off...

Prutton is sent off.

Prutton off.

...I'm going to be positive and say Ferry will play next week, thank fuck for that.

I blame Vic Morgan jinxing cunt ever since he's taken on the full time commentary we haven't won a game   :cry:

Well isn't this marvellous?? :suicide:

Prutton off.

Don't rate him anyhow. Ferry is a better player imo.

yeah we can cover that thankfully.

Dear oh dear oh dear.

He did the commentary last season though.

He'll be suspended for the Paint Pot Trophy match against Southampton.

On a pessimistic note last week was massive. We should have beaten Brentford. Now we very well might be 5 league games without a win when we next play at the CG.

Oh, suspended for a pointless game.

Lets hope Ferry has a stormer and keeps his place.

Just when you think it can't get any worse, it does  :badmood: :badmood:

hmph

Full time - a dire start to the season.

glad I 'boycotted' now.

the pressure is building on Wilson.

Fuck it, another weekend ruined.

Oh dear.

Did Sonic go to the game?

Shit

Yes,


im not starting a match day thread ever again.

Dave out.

We're 20th !!!

to make up for it - i'm official putting a £5,000 bounty on Sonic's head.

Someone kill the jinxed fucker.

We seem to be a bit shit this season. Let's hope DW gets his man(men) before deadline day.

This is bad....but I am a long wat from griping about Danny. Please God, not a season of mediocrity, because we're definitely not going down, but those 'nothingness seasons' are hard to endure.

(correction) long way from gripeing

Bring back Mark O'Donnell and have big Shaun commentating the new set up is shite  8)

Well i'm pissed off. So far i've been pretty patient and calm but it sounded like we were in complete control in this game with 20 minutes to go and we self destructed and threw it all away. We can't defend, we're struggling to score other than from set-plays. It's not looking good at all. I can't wait to hear what Wilson has to say because I bet he's fucking fuming and I don't blame him. We have Saints in midweek then we have to go to Carlisle without 3 players at least. I can't see a win anytime soon sadly.

I blame Dave. Thread starting cunt.

even more so off the back of a play off season.

I remember last time we got the play offs, Kingy made all the right noises the following season, how we'd go one better and all that. Anything over than improvement was failure. He was right.

Stupidly, I believe him and thought we'd do well and we start off the season pretty shit and finished 12th. So ultimately we had failed and still in my opinion should have sacked King then - we didnt, 9 defeats into a new season we finally did.

Although in that instance, King has his budget cut as per usual, so at least there is some excuse as to why we went backwards.

Its still early days but we arent as good as last season, the starting XI isnt and we still (5 games into the season) havent replaced two of our main players both of whom left months ago!

A worse finish than last season is failure in my eyes. Failure also means you get rid and start again.

Even fucking Malpas had us on 6 points after 4 games. Last season we had 5.

Im keeping the faith, the only way is up  :headhurts:

I'm so disappointed. Not sure what else to say really but somethings got to be done.

We were poor. Prutton is annoying. Never going to that souless shithole again.

Urgh!

No, it's not!

Nothing to say.....except to say nothing to say.

Wilson out
Vic Morgan out
Prutton out

We've gone backwards massively since last season. Why oh why did we sell Greer. The defence is the only problem we have.

Fucking shit.... That's my match report. Can't defend, no ideas going forward...... Basically in one summer this team ha been ruined. Yes it's still early but 5 games is enough to realise Wilson has dropped a bollock, he better sort it out and quick as he won't live off last season for long.
I'm fuming because I hate losing to these cunts but to be so embarrassingly bad at times just takes the biscuit!

WRONG...................how many have we scored...5 in 5,thats including three home matches.

We're just not playing in the same way we did last season. We can blame players like Pericard, the sale of Greer or the fact we don't have Paynter or Ward.

But the fact remains: The other players are not performing either and I refuse to believe it's down to a couple of players leaving.

We don't really look like scoring at the moment other than from a set-piece. We need another striker as well as a CB I think. Forget LM now. At least AOB has started to prosper a bit and Ball will get used to playing out on the wing I think.

good gawd what a load of shite i for one am not wasting any more of my money anytime soon

Greer, Sheehan, Ferry, Ward and Paynter are more than a few players. Thats nearly half a team.

Three havent been replaced, one has been replaced with an even worse player and one is sitting on our bench whilst a dave look a like does a much worse job.

Add amankwaah to that list and McGovern isn't performing .... And amankwaah linking with McGovern was a big part of our game for alot of last season

Amankwaah hasn't been as good.
Cuthbert hasn't been as good.
McGovern hasn't been as good.
Douglas hasn't been as good.
Austin hasn't been as good.
Ferry is our player and needs to be played to prove he is as good as last season.

It's about time we move on from the loss of other players and get these playing to their potential, like Wilson was so good at doing last season.

True, Caddis hasnt exactly convinced me yet (admittedly after one game) that he's any better than Big Kev.

Although we were winning today when Kev came on!!

I think you're right to....back in pre season people were amazed that media pundits predicted 14th or 15th for us...it isn't easy to rebuild half a team, it will take a bit of time...let's see who we get in before Tuesday night..

Extremely tough game next. At least we know Ferry will be coming in, we desperately need this centre back, more than anything else let's just get this fucking defender in and a striker. Let's get through September before we try and predict what kind of season we're going to have.

Good first half.

Afwul second half.

Excuse my ignorance but why is Ferry not playing, not match fit or not good enough? The Prutton sending off sounds like a bit of good news as this'll hopefully put Ferry in for the Southampton game.

We were winning mainly due to Lucas...... Our best player by far

get used to it.it's been inevitable since before a ball was kicked this season.

It was always going to take a while for everyone to settle, particularly the lads from up north, as there is far more to sort than just turning up to play. Half expected this, but would expect everyone to start gelling in the next few games.

WRONG 6 in 5 actually. 1 against Brighton, 1 against Orient, 2 against Hartlepool, 1 against Brentford and 1 today.

Take away the goals conceded and that's 5 victories.  :smugfu:
                             

This

I have to agree with Arriba.  I had my concerns due to the number and quality of the players we had lost over the summer, but then some decent looking transfer activity at our end raised my spirits and left me feeling positive again.  Unfortunately, so far the players we have brought in are not playing well enough and neither are the ones that are left from last season.

I will be massively disappointed if the transfer window shuts without any new players coming in, because quite frankly I can't see where 3 points is going to come from with the current set up.  I appreciate Wilson's comments in that 'he wants to find the right man' not 'just any man' or whatever it was he said, but something quite clearly needs to be done.  I also appreciate that he has done good business in the past, but again, this is an example of it taking too long and in the meantime we continue to ship goals and drop points. 

On another negative note, not only can we not win when we go a goal behind, but that's now both games that we've gone a goal up in that we've then gone on to lose 2-1.  Both with two goals in fairly quick succession as well.

The comments section in the adver makes some painful reading! :no:

It's all very well suggesting Wilson needs more haste in the players market, but if you don't think what he's brought in so far has been good enough then bringing in any old body isn't going to be the answer.

So disappointing, especially after going a goal up, don't really know what to say :suicide:

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@leefer, don't know how Brock got on the info on their site is worse than useless

Maybe I am being too hasty in my thoughts, I just feel really disappointed with the way things are going.  When we went a goal up today, I thought it might be the turning point. What are your thoughts? Do you think the current team including new players need to be given longer to gel together?

Think we need to be two goals up to give em a bit of confidence

I think we need a new left back and to give the tried and tested central midfield partnership of Ferry/Douglas and right side partnership of Amankwaah/McGovern a go.

But not a lot is going right at the moment and the fans are pointing fingers all over the place. Another striker is something being talked about for example, but we have four players who can play there. Many could hardly contain their excitement at the last attacking capture either (Dossevi).

We lack a defensive base which we had last season.
We lack energy and movement which we had last season.
We've struggled to create meaningful chances throughout any game.

But the thing for me...this was something we were doing last season and something key players we still have were able to do last season. There is no reason why we can't play as well this year.

Personally I think the player we're missing the most is Paynter.

I just don't believe that this team is yet performing at its potential.  I think the 20th place - and no wins - after 4 league games is an aberration.  Maybe I'm being a little naive...but don't think I am.  Danny needs more time to sort this out, and I think he will.  Lots of players sub par at the moment.  Something should click soon.

But yes...maybe a little more competition at the back would be no bad thing.

This simply isnt good enough at the back.

Brentford should have put 3 past us last week, and they are relegation fodder, got beat at home 3-1 by Rochdale today. Hartlepool demolished by Wednesday at home. In fact I dont think any of the teams weve played will be challenging at the end of the season except maybe Brighton. Fucking Alex Revell, Orient at home what a joke.

Going forward we havnt been great either, but that can wait. Weve been talking up players like Morrison and Lescinel but they havnt been up to it. Caddis has been going missing in games, Rose has had a terrible start down here.

Singling out a player, our biggest problem is Prutton. Ive never thought he was particularly special, but he definately does. The way he stood hands on hips when the subs board went up for Ferry spelt trouble. He's not quick enough and doesnt get enough tackles in. His passes are too defensive and he doesnt play far enough up the pitch. Basically Ferry is a better player.

The transfer window is still open and its not too late to offload Prutton. It would be best for all parties. He should be on the bench and Im glad hes suspended!

Not fucking happy. And I didnt even go.

He didn't really start scoring until October though. Our form wasn't brilliant at the start of last season, but we at least were difficult to beat. This season, so far we have looked pathetically easy to break down. Not sure that changing one or two faces could correct that ploblem. Added to that now will be a severe lack of confidence. Time to get back to doing the simple things right. The complicated will follow.

Highworth play Salisbury next!..........big match for them.

Got home a few minutes ago.

Not very good at all. The first half was like a reserve friendly, no energy, no movement, no ideas. We improved for a spell in the second half with O'Brien putting in some quality deliveries and the midfield partnership of Prutton and Douglas looking far more promising. Dossevi was our only threat in the first half and was taken off for Pericard who failed to bury a decent chance at a corner. O'Brien was subbed off to the cheers of some of those sat nearby and replaced by Ball who was largely ineffective. Amankwaah looked lost when he came on.

Couldn't see what happened at the corners but given that Baldock scored both, I presume someone had lost their man? Very poor to concede a second goal from another corner straightaway. The defence just isn't right as a unit even though Cuthbert and Morrison both looked solid throughout the game. I think we're too weak in the full-back position, both Rose and Caddis are too attack minded.

We clicked at times today but it was a huge step backwards from last week.

Prutton's second booking was absolutely stupid and foolish in the extreme - not a good example for the younger players.

Disappointed at the abuse O'Brien received today and was embarrassed for the bloke who was berating Wilson and calling for him to be sacked.

i dont buy into this waiting for them gell bullshit.these players have been through the system since they were kids.they know how to play where they do, so it would have been drilled into them.maybe with attacking players you need to build up rapport to a point,but defensively that isn't the case at all.
good players can slot in and perform,as the roles at the back are obvious. the reality of the situation is that the replacements are worse than those who have left.

Agreed. A game or two for them to gel but five? Not unless they all train individually all week.

The replacements haven't stepped up or are non-existent in the case of Greer.

some people keep on about the great season we had last year, well i tend to disagree with that, yes we got to the playoff final,but i would say it was a good half a season, can someone work out how many points we picked up after the leeds away game, yes we beat tranmere but i cant recall many more wins after that :(

So what of the players who haven't left but are under-performing?

Any team who does the double over Leeds and Saints have had a good season.
I am not getting to worried after five matches...but i have a bad feeling about this with regards DW.

are they though? players poor form is down to opinion.i really think the missing players are the biggest factor.
who is under performing in your opinion?
you have to remember that certain players not being at it can impact on other players games too.look at it as the players being spokes on a wheel.get a few bent spokes and the wheel buckles.

Anyone who trys to cover that up needs shooting. piss fucking poor full stop. time to make changes our left hand side is fucking gash and prutton is fucking useless

Douglas hasn't been as good, JP hasn't been as good, Cuthbert hasn't been as good, Austin hasn't been as good. That's who isn't performing at the moment as well as they were last season.

I've listed them elsewhere and don't wish to be too much of a parrot, but the whole team is wrong and whilst I don't doubt the impact of the players we lost, the rest haven't lived up to expectation.

McGovern, Douglas and even Austin would be some of my concerns.

douglas doesn't have ferry alongside him,jp doesn't have amankwaa linking up with him,cuthbert doesn't have greer alongside him,austin doesn't have paynter alongside him.

As regards gelling and going forward, they do look like they are yet to gel, but weve shown no signs of improvement in 5 games.

We need a rapid improvement for next saturday. We cant go a month before we start looking like a team. Some players are still coasting in pre season mode.

Austin didn't get in the game at all today, whether that's related to the fact he hasn't trained all week or not is anyone's guess.

I thought O'Brien put in some good crosses today but his overall game is very pedestrian.

We've only played 5 games so far this season, are things really that bad and do we really need to panic?! I don't think so. Give the boys a chance. I think its down to expectations from last season.

Austin played without Paynter last season and looked decent and so did McGovern.

Maybe I'm playing a bit of devil's advocate but it's by no means as black and white as we all want to make out.


I agree with this point of view the most.

Our form is relegation fodder. The players need a wake up.

Shipping this many goals to shit teams = an uphill battle of a season.

We haven't played well for a whole 45 minutes this season, we've shown glimpses of last season's form but only in patches.

Like others have said, we're shipping goals at an alarming rate through individual errors and overall poor defending. I don't think anybody is panicking (on here at least) but are rightfully concerned

doing the double over leeds & saints was superb, agreed, but it doesnt make a season, my point was, we didnt look nothing special in the run in last season, and  that trend is continuing this season

I have only seen David Prutton twice, today was the second time but I really don't know how this man played in the Premiership a while back. Absolute garbage, I'm gutted he isn't given a 3 match ban - fucking awful.

You can tell by the way he strolls around the pitch that he thinks he's better than he is, him and Douglas don't work together and I was very surprised to see him start today. If he starts next Saturday then Ferry will be wondering what he has to do to get in the side.

Am I right in saying it took us 44 minutes to have a shot? We hadn't even had an effort off target, fuck all. Started the second half well I thought but once we were 2-1 down we never looked like scoring.

From what I have seen of Caddis, he is no better than Amankwaah (awful in his cameo today) and doesn't seem like a defender, would be better on the right of midfield.

As for Rose....he was better than last week but I haven't seen worse distribution from a Town player since Jerel Ifil.

It's obvious we need a centre back and a striker, will we get them both? I'd be surprised, I think we'll sign a centre half but I'm worried about where the goals are going to come from if Austin is injured/having off day. Pericard was ok for the first 5 minutes he was on the pitch I thought but after that he wasn't in the game what so ever and given away foul after foul.


 

Dossevi had an effort on target before we scored, unless that's what you mean.

This is dead right.  In the last 10 games (not including the play-offs), we've picked up 8 points out of 30.  Only 1 of those games was a win (3-2 against Brentford in the last home game of the season!)  I'd be surprised if there's another team who didn't end up being relegated who have picked up less?

On the plus side, it's a pretty shite run which surely has to come to an end soon?

Damn right, but we've known that all along, I just hope the right guy is out there.  Right now selling Greer looks like a fucking stupid decision.

Yeah thats the shot I was on about.

Not good enough really, we really missed someone in the middle to create something.

Especially since he's only managed half a game for Brighton so far and that ended in tears!

 :D

More what we lost when he left, than what he's done at Brighton (but I guess you know that, and wanted to make an amusing point, which you did).

The spine of the team is fucked.

We are not playing those who perfomed best last year and without Greer and Paynter the whole team is shot. We have not bought in players anywhere good enough and even those that are we are not playing them (Ferry).

We have gone backwards over the summer. We are not playing well as a team or individually.

harping on back to last season is a complete waste of time. Its a different team with different problems.

As someone who didn't think we'd miss Greer that much, I was totally and utterly wrong in every conceivable way. We miss Paynter, Ward and perhaps even Sheehan but for Greer's minor faults, he's left a massive void in our side.

The atmosphere today was dead quiet at times but you couldn't hear any of our players aside from Lucas.

I still maintain that Dossevi will come good, he looks class.

Exactly, we're missing his leadership qualities and Brighton aren't benefiting from them either.  The fact that he's only managed half a game for Brighton would be highly amusing if we were doing well, as it is  :(

Maybe its a confidence thing? I think once the players get that first win, things will improve. When that first win comes is another matter.

can i have whatever your taking :D

First game today since Brighton due to being away. Thought we were poor. No urgency,no idea of how to break down a pretty very weak Franchise team. For me, Prutton doesn't offer anything.Very dissapointed as I was really looking forward to this game.Can't put my finger on what he problem is, but there clearly is one.

Got back about an hour ago. We were shit, they were shit. The really worrying thing is teams don't need to play well or be decent to beat us. No invention going forward and terrible defensively.

Lucas - Kept us in with some brilliant saves. The one that lead to the corner for the first looked unbelievable from our end. Probably our MoM.

Back 4 - CBs were fine but may be at fault for the goals? FBs were gash. Caddis is alright on the ball, but neither seem to be able to defend. Kev had a fucking mare when he came on!

Midfield: Prutton was gash again, and a absolute cock for his sending off. He had a nibble at their GK just before, and just seems to be a twat. Dougie was really good second half, but him and Cuthbert seem to be so frustrated with the majority of the other players. AOB was decent, despite the god-awful abuse he was copping off the row of dicks behind me. JPM was the JPM of 2 seasons ago. Worst performance for a very long time!

Austin wasn't fit, Dossevi was our best player first half, but why does DW always take him off? I want Pericard to come good, but he was just shit again.

Overall, the blip isn't a blip. The patience is wearing thin and my optomism that we're unlucky, or just need to get rid of mistakes is wrong. We were bad today, no doubt, and were lucky to be in any kind of winning situation to begin with.

The problem now is that we go to Carlisle with players missing, and then host Soton. Win niether of those and DW is under pressure, like it or not. I would hate to seem him get even close to losing his job, but with two tough games coming up, we could have only 3 or 4 points from 6.

Last year we performed above the wage budget, but now, following further investment over the summer, we will be in the top 6 or 8 in terms of budget, and if that doesn't transpire to the pitch DW will lose his job, but more seriously, the money will dry up, and the push for the Champ will stop, impacting the ground redevelopment and future stature of this club.  In five years time, we're either Preston-like or Col-U like, and alot of it comes down to this season, being the third full season since the takeover.

A couple of final notes - the ground will be immense when its finished, every MK fan is a cunt, our support was quite poor and I can't see me doing another away game until we've improved massively.

Tuesday is huge, a CB and ST as a minimum, a left mid and left back would be nice, maybe in one player, particularly for away games.

As regards the atmosphere youve got to remmember that MK doesnt appeal to a lot of the fans who make the atmosphere. No pubs, no train station. I rekon Carlisle and Walsall we will have decent support.

Yeah I agree Spence, its a shit away day. My point was that I'm not going away again until the team improves, not the fans, but to be honest after today and Hartlepool I've lost alot of enthusiasm. Probably still be at Walsall mind.

It helps that they are proper football clubs, too.

samdy. update the prediction league please.

Apologies if any of this has already been stated as I have only just got in.
The atmosphere within the ground is awful and at times resembled a reserves match, in that you can hear the players communicating on the pitch.
 I thought that we were awful in the 1st half but improved considerably and were playing well at the time of the equaliser. We switched off when Lewington went for the short corner.

My player view:

Lucas- Steady and some excellent saves
Caddis- Was expecting so much from him and frankly I am disapointed. He just seems too small to be a full back
Cuthbert-Ok, but his distribution is poor
Morrison- Ok, but will improve with a run in the team and an experinced "vocal" CB partner
Rose-See Caddis but only worse. Distribution is poor. Awful pass to Prutton which resulted in him loosing possesion and  
        then getting sent off
JPM- Not the same this year
Dougie-2nd half was his best this season but still not a patch on last season. Not a captain!
Prutton- I like him. Not sure that him and Dougie are the best partnership
"No Brain-This man is exasperating and, were it not for his speed, would not be a professional footballer. Does not have a clue what to do defensively, but especially offensively, when he does not have the ball.
Austin- Not on fire yet but is still giving his all.
Dossevi-Looks like he could have something but is clearly not match fit
Vinnie-Thought that before they equalised he had his best 20 mins in a swindon shirt. Will reserve judgement until he
      gets his 1st goal
Ball-Tried Hard
Manky-Awful

Lets not have any kneejerk reactions to a poor start to the season. DW is still the best that we have, or are likely to get.
Keep the faith!

Agree with all that, Prutton should not be playing, We paid aa good amount of money for Ferry yet Wilson doesn't play him? I'm baffled.

Norwich fan's warned us that Rose was an awful player and he hasn't done very well so far i hope things change.

As for Wilson he's probably already under pressure, Can't see Fitton being very happy at all with how we've started and remember that Fitton likes a run in the cups, Malpas was sacked after going out of the FA Cup and JPT, We're already out of the Carling Cup and could go out of the JPT trophy on Tuesday.

I think the next 3 or 4 games are massive and massive for Wilson also.

Think it's done arriba, I still have nil points. Lucky I'm top of the Poole one to stop me getting too depressed

Oh and no way was there over 7,000 people in the ground, not a chance!

I've been at work all day, just read all this.

Fuck. I can't see a win any time soon either. Good points posted about what worked before and was not broken: Kev/JPM, Dougie/Ferry. What is broken: Cuthbert/Greer, Austin/Paynter.

VIP area is massive.

Fuck sake start Ferry!!!!!

Main issue is that the players we lost over the summer: Paynter, Greer, Sheehan, Ward have either not been replaced at all or the replacements have been inadequate for example Michael Rose who is honestly one of the poorest fullbacks i have ever seen. The other new signings have also flattered to deceive: Prutton, Caddis, Ball and as for Ferry what has he got to do to get into the team? The combo of Ferry and Douglas worked well last year so why change what is not broken?

Dougie is another point in question. He is a shadow of the player he was last year, i am beginning to wonder if he cannot do the captains role and make the contribution on the pitch that we have come to expect from him. We miss Greer's organisation badly, as we seem devoid of a leader and any sort of organisation.

Pericard- cannot see him getting anywhere close to filling Paynter's boots.

Hope we sign some decent players in the next 3 days or it may be a long and hard winter. Hope for Danny's sake he can turn this round as with the budget he has Fitton and the board ( and fans) expect an awful lot more.

Can't understand wny AOB was taken off, we only looked dangerous when he was skinning the right back and putting in consistantly good balls by his standards.  Plenty of tossers cheered the decision so some people were happy.

Very frustrating afternoon again. Similar to the Brighton game, a poor referee and the fact i hate losing to these cunts.

Didn't really look like we wanted anything out of the game to be honest, we're still lacking creativity. Very hard to take any real positives out of it, but Lucas and O'brien definitely helped that cause.

Kept in the game by Lucas and some more of his superb saves. We really are lucky to have such a good keeper, it's just a shame the rest of the team couldn't follow his example and show real effort and desire. Definite man of the match for us if we're actually gonna bother naming one.

The defence were generally good first half. But the lack of leadership at the back showed when we not only conceded both goals from set pieces, but we conceded both goals from CONSECUTIVE set pieces. Really in need of a commanding centre half with leadership qualities. Rose slightly improved from last week, but is very poor in distribution. Caddis was poor, both in the air and on the floor, but still better than whatever the fuck Amankwaah contributed today.

As for the midfield, well i really fail to see what Prutton offers us. He seems lazy and sloppy, and could have got numerous yellow cards today. The fact that he's now suspended for tuesday (or saturday?) was a minor positive to come out of today. O'brien for me was the best of a poor midfield. Really notice an improvement in him, and was astonished to hear boos when he was subbed, i duly stood and applauded him.

Up front Dossevi again showed potential, but was subbed early yet again. Austin looked jaded, and definitely not at his best. I again tried to be optimistic when Pericard came on, but he showed little to warrant a starting place for the next game.

Overall, a poor performance in which we were lucky to go in one up, and lucky not to be on the other end of a thrashing. Experienced leader at the back required urgently, some creativity in the middle a neccesity, Ferry to partner Douglas also needed and a decent performance in the JPT to not only boost our confidence, but give the team a distraction from our lacklustre league perfomances so far.

Same mistake DW made against Orient, our only threat is going to be from the wings...

Happy? Some were fucking delighted

A natural reaction i suppose to our only attacking threat on the day being taken off ::)

The cheer from some idiots (mostly in the block nearest the goal) was louder than the cheer for our goal.

AOB got some serious stick from people round me. A couple of blokes were comical with it, shouting for him to wherever the ball was, no matter where it was. He would be blamed for attacks down our right, literally everything! I think he looked like our best threat personally.

Just got in. What a frustrating afternoon. Every time I built a sandcastle my nearly 2 year old son full on belly flopped on it.  I had flags and everything waiting, but no it wasn't to be.

On the plus side leaving at 5:40pm we missed the mad rush and managed an 80Mph journey home. 3 1/2 hours from Newquay including a coffee stop and the god forsaken Bridgewater services. Now to shower off the sand ...
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Oh yeah, footy. Godmanit. Leaking too many goals. We know scoring is an issue in that Autin and Paynter got them all last season.  But WTF is going on with the defending. Is it a pure back 4 issue, or is it the midfield being far less effective at offering protection.

Make no mistake, the season is only just starting and is easily retrievable. But I'd have hoped for some signs of improvement by now. Doesn't sound like its happening from the match reports. Still we may see some new blood soon.

You did well

If only someone called it at the time!!

I fail to see why Wilson couldnt see it.

Also, with regards to Douglas - I'd take Lucas captain.

Club captain for sure, but he leads on the pitch as it is, he doesnt need the armband. Far more of a natural leader than Dougie it appears from the stand anyway

Exactly, and if being the on field captain is something that is effecting Douglas game - then sort it, get it off of him.

How many more chances for Pericard?

Probably saw it but failed to stop it. What do you do if the player wants to go and £250k is sitting in offer? IF that is what happened.

The bigger issue is he hasn't been adequately replaced. Yet. Transfer /loan deadline day hasn't passed.


As many as Paynter? He went through lean spells too.

Pericard has to start producing soon. So far he's looked like a rich man's Trevor Benjamin!

Pericard 2 starts in 20.

Approx. 436 out of 1800 minutes available in those 20 games he's featured in. I'd still like to see 90 minutes from him.

That was my point - when the offer was on the table - even if Greer wanted to go, we shouldnt have agreed until we had a replacement lined up.

Pericard has always been shit, maybe he had one good season for Portsmouth 10 years ago. He's had enough time on the pitch, in a decent free scoring team and done nothing.

What a fucking crap performance. The defence is useless and we are creating nothing going forward, no movement and no desire.

Lucas was great today, made a few outstanding saves.

Caddis dis alright, looks great going forward but gets caught with balls over the top a lot.

Thought Morrison had another solid performance, yet I still feel we lack leadership at the back, I will be dissapointed if we don't bring a CB by tuesday I will be concerend.

We also need a LB, Rose looks awful, I know it's only been 4 games but he had been at fault for a few goals and his distribution is poor.

I am delighted Prutton got sent off, means DW will have to drop him, he is so lazy and generally useless, hopefully having Ferry back in the middle will help improve JD's performances aswell as he hasn't been the player of last year.

JPM had his worst game for a very long time, didn't want the ball and never gave Caddis an option. I think he misses having Manks behind him.

AOB was good today, he was a constant threat, he was beating players and putting good crosses in frequently.

Austin was quiet, had no service but still gave 100% I think once Dossevi is fully fit, him and Austin will have a good partnership.

Milton Keynes is horrible. The stadium is nice looking, but so souless, it didn't feel like a football stadium, it wad wired, it didn't seem right. And the plastic fans were all cunts. Our support was a tad gash.

We do need to sort this out, it's getting a little concerning, we need a CB and a LB as a must, I love DW and would hate him  to be under pressure but we need a win and soon.

I hope it all clicks soon.....

I guess that depends on how hard ball Brighton played over a "take it or leave it" offer. Impossible to know why he was sold when he was without all the facts.

Either way Wilson must have had faith we'd be OK at least in the interim.

FWIW I've only seen 2 games this season (Brighton and Orient). In both of them I've thought the central midfield pairing looked as concerning as the back 4.

I agree Batch but with regards to midfield - we at least have Ferry sat on the bench. Rose at left back, we at least have Kennedy sat on the bench.

In defence, we've tried all 3 of our 'senior' centre backs and the only other opition is Will Evans.

In the other poor positions we at least have other options, we dont have any at CB.

I agree with your post. Except left back, not sure if Kennedy is the answer, not seen him play enough. What is Sheehan up to?!

Kennedy hasnt played alot of games admittedly but when he has done, he hasnt put a foot wrong for us. Quite the opposite. He's always pleasantly surprised me with his performances.

Sheehan's still at Leeds doing fuck all I believe

Yep, Leeds are/were asking for a reasonably sizeable fee.

and how much are we spending on Rose/Prutton/Ball/Pericard ?

I don't know. I was going along with a quote from Danny Wilson before we signed Rose.

Fucking hell, not back to the Greer transfer (again)?!

Your posts are less reasonable than Bart's these days Dave.

It sounds to me we are still missing what we missed at Wembley.

Most of last season we had Greer to bring the ball out of defense, and link up with the midfield. Cuthbert didn't do that job last season (he generally passed the ball to Greer to do that) and I don't believe that Morrison can do the job.

I can only see us continuing to struggle until we find someone who can do that as well as organise the back four.

Mediocre first half and i was amazed we went in a goal up!

Looked strong until the MK goal went in...then collapsed into a Malpas style shit storm.

Prutton is a liability....deserved to go...poor!

A long season on this display.

They arent.

We havent replaced him and it will be an issue until we do.

Yep, prutton and douglas is not working as a partnership, cuthbert and morrison likewise.  Very poor spine to the team as a result.  I have no doubt we will at some point click but we need new personnel in defence.  I believe Ferry and Douglas will do the job next week in midfield.

MK ground is new shiny and has the soul of the average x factor contestant.  None.  If any of you want to complain about it being quiet at the CG just go to mk.  The atmosphere of a black hole ( I await the rocket scientists out there pointing out that there is loads of atmosphere in a black hole)

Regardless it was nice to see Mex and meet Adge and Sonic youth (who I blame for the defeat) and his Norwegian lady.

Without meaning to sound all Scouse, calm down, calm down. We're a handful of games in and are still bedding in a host of new players and getting used to playing without the likes of Billy GG and Ward. We'll get there but it will take time.

There is real quality in our squad and management team and once we get this first win monkey off our back I've no doubt we'll kick on.

Keep the faith.

Maybe we should buy him back. Or just keep posting about it over and over and over and over and over again.

Go on Mark ................... 3 or 4 players yes

Squad no

I would like to point out that an astrophysicist might, not a rocket scientist.

There. That ok?

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At the risk of sounding like Brian Clough, Prutton would do his career, Danny Wilson and the fans a massive favour by binning the outdated gypo headband, shaving his head and rolling his sleeves up with a renewed and positive fucking attitude when he's served his one match ban.

A shite fucking honeymoon period is now well and truly over for him after todays sending off. He needs to forget his Leeds Mafia days and start repaying Wilsons faith in signing him.

Can not believe we cant sign a replacement for GG at our level, even if its a loan signing. It's not like we're a prem side having to splash 150k a week.

Harsh maybe, but Cuthbert would be my choice to make way for a new CB. Morrison will be a massive player for us and we need him playing regularly or he'll fuck off somewhere else. I'd slot Cuthbert in at whichever FB berth he feels most comfortable in and sort the other side out accordingly.

We have no problems up front, with Dosevvi and Austin being my first choices. They've had fuck all service so far this season from a midfield that lacks creativity. If they were missing chances, fair enough, but we create fuck all for them so they are off the hook for the moment.

Dont think we should be too worried. Ferry will give us more going forward now Prutton is out of the picture and Wilson has to bring in a few new faces before TDD - or face the consequences.

Boardroom pressure will be building on DW after the manner we've started this season. Easy to forget, as we just plug into games as and when, and rant on the forums etc after matches, but Wilson will be in constant day-to-day contact with Fitton and the board. They've spent a lot of fucking dosh on the club and have funded a pretty decent transfer / wages budget as well. I'd imagine anything resembling waffle, bullshit or half-baked excuses for our poor start wont fucking wash with them and DW is probably shuddering everytime his home phone starts ringing.

...or we could sign a replacement.

what a fucking novel idea.

What Delta said

Fuck me that is the first time in 6 years I have ever agreed with anything that cunt has said

:catchup:

Sorry, did we sign a replacement last week?

my deepest apologies.

well all know it

do you have to keep voicing it ?

its been, like every day since Greer went

we get it mate ! we get it !

Firstly, Wilson is still the man for us.

But he has to make some changes. Firstly he needs to make Lucas the captain as he's far more vocal then Dougie.

Also he needs to drop Rose, Prutton and unfortunately JPM.

I expect to get slated for this team (you'll see why) but I'd play


                                  Lucas                                                            Subs: Smith
                                                                                                              Thompson
Manks          Cuthbert         Morrison/New CB     Kennedy                                 McGovern
                                                                                                              Timlin
Caddis          Ferry                 Douglas           LJF                                          O'Brien
                                                                                                              Ball
                     Austin          Dossevi                                                             Morrison/New CB

I think LJF would make a cracking left winger because he's skillful and puts a mean cross into the box. Plus we won't have his defensive liabilities because he won't be playing left back.




          

*we* clearly dont get it.

deluded if you think that

It was wearing thin fucking weeks ago Dave.

Very depressing yesterday, we're playing like a team devoid of ideas and lacking the cohesiveness that was so evident last season.

Prutton is beginning to irritate me, as is Rose. I've read on here about how well O'Brien and Dossevi played yesterday, all I can say is I must have missed it. O'Brien was constantly out of position and limited the opportunities when we had the ball; if you're a wide player, stay out fucking wide! He put in a few crosses, but nowhere near the quality some have said they were. Dossevi looks good on the ball, problem was he was hardly ever on the fucking ball!

Amankwah was absolute dogshite when he came on, unlike Pericard who mixed it up and had a good game. The opportunity he had wasn't that easy and if Austin had missed it no one would say anything. Give him the full 90 minutes Tuesday.

Everyone is concerned about the defence but my main concern is the total lack of understanding between defence, midfield and attack. Make no mistake, apart from a 20 minute spell in the 2nd half we were garbage.

Plus points - Only one really, Morrison. Could have a real gem there.

Good write up Herthab.  Although i didn't go yesterday some of the points you made were evident in both the Brentford & Orient home games.

Both our midfield & defence are the greatest concerns because both defensively & creatively we are way short of last years standards.

Up front i think that'll come eventually but if our strikers have no service then there not going to score. Admittedly we are missing Paynters presence upfront but I still think Pericard will come good once he's given a bit of service and is playing regularly rather than bit part sub appearances

I still think Prutton is a decent player but you just can't play him with Douglas they are too alike and that it is taking away our creativity from the centre. 

These 2 areas lack balance the most and until they are addressed by DW then we will be in for a season of continual struggle. 

Dave - you should meet Bart for a drink.  I think you'd make a lovely couple.

Thing is DW really rates Prutton and he's only gonna miss a paintpot game-he will definitely be back in for the next league game.I waited after the game to have a word with Danny and I put to him that Ferry was a better option than Prutton he said"how many goals does Ferry score?" I replied that none of our midfielders are particularly prolific and he replied "David will be,give him a chance".

I can see where everyone's coming from regarding Prutton, as I said earlier he's beginning to irritate me, but if DW thinks he's worth persevering with then maybe he is. None of us are experts (Although we all think we are!) and Wilson must know his job's on the line if our current form continues.

I've small spells in games where the team have shown what they're capable of. It just needs to click into place and soon!

I'm not an expert in tatics, field positions. Wilson (I hope) knows what he's doing but I am fairly qualified in noticing when someone isn't pulling his weight and Prutton isn't.

Ok Wilson, lets bench Douglas shall we?

IF Prutton is going to start scoring, he needs to stop trying to stand on the ball and dictate the play. We already have Dougie in this role. He needs to start getting forward and make off the ball runs. It is clear at the moment he always wants the ball to his feet.

DW is obviously also rimming Prutton

Meh.

I dont know why youre all moaning.

I prefer it when we are shit, it makes victory taste all the sweeter.

(Fuck knows where this victory is going to come from though)

That's a really big point. The problems are there to see all over the pitch, not in any one area.

I think we're too lightweight down the flanks more than anything.........McGovern, Caddis, Rose and O'Brien are too easy to bully and don't cause enough problems.

I think an on form Amankwaah and McGovern partnership should do the job on the right, as Caddis is a good player but he really isn't designed for this league. But as for our left side it is so lightweight and a disaster zone.

Still can't get over that yeaterday i am so pissed off and angry. I very rarely get into rants on these things but something needs to be sorted out asap.

Make no mistake Wilson has spent a fucking lot of money on this squad of players and at the moment they and him are not performing.I don't buy into the players needing to gel bollocks nearly everyone of them have been here since before Austria.

Bar two players yesterday they are all Wilson signings and he needs to swallow his pride and drop players who are not performing. Rose is a liability i would go as far as saying he is the worst left back i have seen here in years in fact i am struggling to think of a worse one and as much as want o'brien to do well i am getting pissed off with lack of interest and it's getting tiresome saying oh but he showed glimpses of being a good player fucksake ricky shakes showed glimpses ever fola onion fucking bhaji showed glimpses.

This isn't about making scapegoats out of players it's about being honest some players just don't look good enough for what we want and as for Prutton that is the first time i have been happy one of our players has been sent off.

Wilsons substitutions fucked it up for us yesterday we were all quick enough to praise him for changing it at hartlepool(myself included) so i'm afraid it's the rough with the smooth he fucked that up yesterday.Him and shirtliffe need to get us working as a unit again shirtliff is defence coach and needs to get them defending.

Wilson says he needs 4 new players i hope it's a striker, left back,left winger and obviously another centre half although Morrison has been unlucky to be involved in those last 2 games as he has been head and shoulders our best player on the pitch which frankly is an embarassment with some of the experienced players we have in our squad.

Finally if you are going to spunk large chunks of your budget on simon ferry and waste nearly 3-4 weeks pursuing him at least fucking play him.

Amankwaah is one of those players who gets better when he's settled in the side.

He's not great at being in and out of the team.

Rose is better that Drysdale surely.

Cheaper.

Agreed so get him back in the side, Caddis isn't a league 1 fullback, there are too many high balls to deal with in this league and way too much goes over his head.

Agree with most of that DRS. Especially the last bit about Ferry. I really don't see why we busted a gut to get him back here only to sit him on the bench. Wilson knows better than anyone that Douglas and Ferry worked so well for us last season. After 5 games it's clear Prutton and Douglas isn't really working. So why has DW persisted on keeping Ferry warming the bench? I'm just glad Prutts is suspended for the next match.

Also agree about what we need to get in before the window slams shut this week. Time is running out for it as well. I think we'll manage 2 but maybe 3 or 4 is what is required. Looks like we'll have to go down the loan route in September. At least Wilson has a good track record in that department.

Oh another thought is Pericard a bit of a loner? Again yesterday he warms up on his own, doesn't seem to talk to anyone and just generally looks out of place. Even once he's on the pitch he doesn't seem right, for example when he gets free kicks given against him he just seems to walk off with an 'oh well' attitude whereas everyone else would moan at the ref.

He just doesn't seem to fit in which can't help the chances of him ever coming good at the club.

We are moaning because our team is crumbling in front of our eyes, and there is nothing we can do..noooooo :wink:

Caddis was decent yesterday and probably the only signing of wilson's that's done any good this year (Dossy has too).

The reason why Amankwaah isn't in the team is because he's fucking wank and a liability and caddis aint

WTF ????????????????????

WTF are u on about?

whoosh

Amankwaah isnt wank, just a confidence player.

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"Judging by yesterday's game, and what I've seen so far, I would replace Caddis, Rose,  Prutton, and Dossevi with Amankwah, Kennedy, Ferry, and Pericard, but of course this will not happen yet."

Umm perhaps it might happen soon judging by reports

Spot on. He has over 40 appearances for us, Wilson knows what he can do, and at the moment that's everything Prutton can't.

I think the reason DW is starting Prutton is he thinks he can replace some of the experience lost from Greer.

But you've got to weigh it up, a slow, unmotivated player that can talk some bollocks on the pitch or...

An enthusiastic, hard working player that doesn't have as much experience...

On reflection, our problems this season seem to relate to how we're performing as a whole unit. We've looked like a collection of individuals rather than a cohesive team. I don't see this as a lack of gelling as the players we've got have had plenty of time together and performed well last season.

The players look nervous on the pitch and lacking in confidence, this was particularly prevalent against Brighton in our reluctance to take the game to them; instead choosing to shift the ball safely around the penalty box than look for a killer pass, take a shot or make a run.

I can't comment on the nuances between this season and last as I saw very few games but I have seen all bar one of our games this season and the same problems rear their ugly heads - no cohesiveness, no leadership, individual errors and key players not performing.

A frequent theme of the match yesterday was a lack of movement in the midfield, far too often we saw the ball booted long to Austin and Dossevi because O'Brien was static on the left between the wide midfielder and full back, Douglas and Prutton weren't coming short and that left McGovern our only outlet, who often ran into brick walls as a result. We looked one dimensional, devoid of ideas and the Franchise defenders dealt with the aerial threat with ease. At our best last season, I understand we were very effective down the wings and yesterday we looked at our most threatening with quality crosses into the area from the wings.

However, we need to build from the back. Greer was adept at finding the short, simple pass and allowing the midfield to build from that. Of what I've seen LJF is quite capable of this as well, he is comfortable on the ball and has a surprising range of passing for a defender. Morrison has stepped up admirably and looks to have all the qualities he needs at this level with the exception of experience and everyone knows about Cuthbert. Rose has been poor, effective at times when going forward but is too often out of position and Chadwick ran rings around him yesterday. O'Brien offers little protection as he is too static and there is no understanding between the two; no overlapping whatsoever. LJF has been used at left-back in the past and comments on here suggest that he isn't up to it and would selecting an inexperienced and untested Kennedy help the defence? With a lack of leadership at the back, I'm not sure it would. Caddis looks a good player but lacks the defensive qualities required and Amankwaah is a more than adequate backup who proved last season his effectiveness at linking up with McGovern. Our defence is young and inexperienced.

In midfield we lack balance and energy. Prutton has been a huge disappointment and as others have previously said, Wilson will persevere with him through blind loyalty. He can only play the game at one pace and is anonymous when the game is too fast for him, his lack of movement and energy offers us nothing in a defensive role leaving Douglas to pick up the slack, a burden shared with Ferry last season and as a result Douglas ends up chasing shadows rendering him mostly ineffective. Prutton is a massive weak link in this team and showed a complete lack of intelligence when picking up his second yellow yesterday, it's a shame he'll only miss the paintpot game. On the left side O'Brien occasionally shows what a threat he can be and most of our attacking movements involved him yesterday, however he vanishes entirely for large periods of the game as it stands we can't afford to carry passengers. Ball showed his ability when he came on as a substitute last weekend and I'd personally prefer to see him start ahead of O'Brien. McGovern has played fairly well in all the games I've seen this season so no worries there, although sometimes I'd wish he mixed up his crosses a bit - he drills it too often.

Up front we've got Charlie. He'll score goals even though defenders know all about him now. Dossevi needs a little bit of time to adjust to the physicality of the game but I'm convinced he'll come good... However, I'm not sure whether he will form a good partnership with Charlie who thrived off Paynter's strength and hold up play last season. Dossevi could be an option on the left, he's got a bit of pace, good on the ball and has an excellent engine. Pericard needs a goal but it's difficult to see where it's going to come from - he's looked good in his last couple of substitute appearances but doesn't look likely to score, which just increases pressure on the team.

I've got faith in Danny that'll he get the right players in this week and I just hope Charlie's head doesn't get turned by this papertalk (or Fitton's head for that matter). An experienced centreback who will help his inexperienced partner and a decent leftback is what we really need. Additional options on the left and up front would be nice but not as important.

A win will give the team some confidence and there's definitely ability in this team so I'm not utterly devoid of hope; this side is still better than the side of 07/08 & 08/09 and we have the manager, the board and the finances to get it right but we have to stop the slide before it's too late.

I have no doubts that Wilson is the right man and hope that Fitton keeps the faith.

:D

Yep, not replacing Greer was wearing thin fucking weeks ago.

Probably should have done something about that.

for what its worth dave I spoke to a brighton player last night and he told me greer was happy here and wilson and fitton had a falling out as wilson didnt want him to leave.

he not tried to get into your club yet then?

the old football vs business decision.

too much business, not enough football (which I understand but dont like)

Yawn

awww

am I annoying you?

dont cry now.

:D