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Pay freeze for me for 2 years. This just gets better and better...

Labour's plan to increase the duty on cider by 10% above inflation will be scrapped from July.

The bastards are putting up VAT to 20% after christmas!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10371590.stm

The capital gains tax "entrepreneurs relief" rate of 10% on the first £2m of gains will be extended to the first £5m.

It seems to me the rich getting richer, and the poorer struggling to survive.

Welcome to a conservative government.

It seems to me the rich getting richer, and the poorer struggling to survive.

Public sector workers are lower paid than there counterparts in the private sector, so that's why I think it's unfair.

i regret voting lib dem big time.that cunt clegg nodding along to everything made me want to punch him fucking hard.
hypocritcal lying bastard!

How where they lying? the lib dems always said they were going to cut.  They've got their way on some things like the £1000 rise the the tax threshold

Public sector workers get brilliant pensions compared to 90% of private sector workers.

The pay freeze only applies to those earning under £21k so its not targeting the lowest paid public sector workers is it?

Anyway its basically tough shit. Labour hired an additional 1m public sector workers. Quite a few of that number are doing worthless jobs, the country now cannot afford for them to be employed by the state just to keep them out of the dole queue.  Its harsh on those individuals concerned, who may well have been good at their jobs but the bigger picture is that the country as a whole cant afford it any more.

I've not had a pay rise for 2 years, probably wont get one this year and have a shit pension  :shrug:

Because it was so great under Labour

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7003694.ece

2 words: LORD Mandelson

My job in the private sector is about 10 - 15k more than I'm on now. That's how it's unfair. Yet my poxy 3% pay rise/living allowance gets frozen. Cheers.

Ah true however I was just stating the Conservatives are known for feeding the rich starving the poor so it's hardly a revelation they are doing the same now?

Aslong as fags/booze isnt affected i dont care :)

Aslong as fags/booze isnt affected i dont care :)

Aslong as fags/booze isnt affected i dont care :)

that vat rise will cost me about 10 grand a year.

I've not had a pay rise for 2 years, probably wont get one this year and have a shit pension  :shrug:

2.5% on VAT certainly won't make me consider spending any differently. It's not as if I'm going out spending £000s on luxury goods each month. An extra 2.5p in the pound is next to fuck all for most people. That's only an extra couple of quid (if that) on the monthly shop.

How where they lying? the lib dems always said they were going to cut.  They've got their way on some things like the £1000 rise the the tax threshold

why would a 2.5% affect people spending in the club shop?

So a £49.99 top will now cost £51. harldy any difference really.
Club still make the same money.

because of everythind he said during the election in critism.only to sit there today like a fucking churchill nodding dog in agreement.
he wanted power,now he has it. he is a cunt

and those saying i dont get this,public sector get that.so what? do 2 wrongs make a right? should others have their rights and entitlements taken from them, because some in the private sector didn't have it in the first place?

Anything necessarily bad for students?

That's always been the way though hasn't it? Be fucked without students (or decent/clever/innovative ones at least) in the long run.

Hmm. From a purely selfish point of view it's not that bad for me.

Doesn't read to well though, was education not supposed to be left untouched?

I take the train to work, which would be fine but for the fact that in a train, unlike in a car, you don't get to choose who sits next to you. This is a problem if, as I am, you're a magnet for people who eat noisily in public.

During just about every train journey I take, there will be someone within 10 feet eating so noisily that I find it impossible to read, write or indeed do anything other than calculate how quickly I could flee to Brazil after throttling the warthog in question with his or her own shoelaces.

I don't know whether this is your experience. Perhaps it's just me. Perhaps I unwittingly give off some signal that makes fellow passengers think: "I say, that poor devil looks as though he could do with hearing some squelchy, burp-punctuated mastication this morning. I must endeavour to be of service."

The trouble with the noisiest eaters, aside from their screaming gracelessness, is that they are invariably also the slowest. The other day on the train, a man across the aisle was noisily eating crisps. "Eating" is possibly the wrong word, because almost as much was leaving his mouth as entering it. But what made it worse was that he was doing it one crisp at a time, at a rate of not less than 20 seconds per crisp, thus prolonging the torture to a degree surely inadmissible under the Geneva Convention.

2.5% on VAT certainly won't make me consider spending any differently. It's not as if I'm going out spending £000s on luxury goods each month. An extra 2.5p in the pound is next to fuck all for most people. That's only an extra couple of quid (if that) on the monthly shop.

I think having the Universities Minister describe you as "a burden on the taxpayer" isn't the best sign of positive things to come

Did the drop in VAT rate last year rejuvinate the economy? A rise won't change much.

Clearly a very shitty budget for most people, but hopefully it will rejuvinate the private sector and kickstart the economy as intended.

The danger will be if this short term emergency budget is continued for many years.

This rise in VAT is a fucking killer for me, im in a business where i get hit by the rise but cant pass it on to my customers, as i said will cost me personally about 10 grand.

I think they should also introduce a higher rate of tax for all off-licence sales allowing the pubs to survive a little longer

One small problem that would be illegal under EU law.

Why? They charge more for eating in than taking out - surely it's the same in reverse?

If you can spend, say, 1000 quid on vatable items then the 25 quid extra shouldnt be a problem.

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying that for someone to say "it'll cost no more than a couple of quid a month" assumes a spend of only £100 per month. Anyone with a Starbucks habit that nips there every working day will pretty much spend that on coffee.

Taxing alcohol (and minimum pricing) come under EU competition laws. Take aways, i.e. food is different it comes under complicated VAT rules (VAT being an EU tax as condition of our membership in 1973) depending on whether it's hot or cold.

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying that for someone to say "it'll cost no more than a couple of quid a month" assumes a spend of only £100 per month. Anyone with a Starbucks habit that nips there every working day will pretty much spend that on coffee.

Minimum pricing is covered by EU law - taxing isn't - otherwise the government would not be allowed to change the tax on drinks... surely?

Minimum pricing is covered by EU law - taxing isn't - otherwise the government would not be allowed to change the tax on drinks... surely?

They won't cancel courses people are already on, they'll just have far fewer places available next year and forever more...

That is definitely Labour's for screwing up Higher Education by turning everything in sight into a University so that the masses could exercise their right to read for a degree in something useless like media studies or flower arranging. After all the country will need a skilled workforce.

Then they realised it costs too much so now everyone will be shafted on fees.

Oh. I start a 3 year BA in History this September and thought I was safe!

Anyone who spends £100 a month on coffee has a serious problem.

And I was refering to a monthly shop i.e. grocery items. I was generalising when I said £100, but that's not far wide of the mark. I personally spend no more than £150 on groceries.

Oh. I start a 3 year BA in History this September and thought I was safe!

Its a thing of the past.

Well someone had to say it.

Really? Tell that to my step-son - 2 years into a 3 year degree course, cancelled at the end of the 2nd year. No notice, nothing, just thanks for your fees for the past two years now fuck off.

You're no nev ... but it made me smile

And fucking well done if you only spend £100 - £150 on groceries a month, I can spend that each week, but most groceries are going to be zero rated surely?

Is there no right of appeal or any way to reclaim the fees? Not a lot can be done about the two years 'wasted', unless there is a possibility of transferring. I bet even then there would be 2 more years to do.

:( Name and shame the Uni Paul.

Disappointed to hear the SU being dismissive.

I'm not even Adver standard.

That sounds well shit Paul. What happened in the end?

It must be said the reality seems a bit scary, so i'll continue in blissfull ignorance :)

Give or take a bit depending on how much you spend, yes

£180 p/a is the figure i've seen mentioned for personal allowance

I don't know if you're being sarchastic there (I sense you are), I'm sorry I don't earn as much as you your Lumpiness to spend as much as you on my shopping.

why would a 2.5% affect people spending in the club shop?

So a £49.99 top will now cost £51. harldy any difference really.
Club still make the same money.

Excuse me for ignorance here but can someone remind me why Uni is free north of the border and prescriptions free in Wales when we have to pay for both?  I have genuinely never really understood this.

No I'm genuinely fucking impressed.

You clearly shop in a disciplined and sensible fashion, rather than my ....oooh look venision steaks! approach......which is probably not the best way to cost effective trolley filling

This rise in VAT is a fucking killer for me, im in a business where i get hit by the rise but cant pass it on to my customers, as i said will cost me personally about 10 grand.

No I'm genuinely fucking impressed.

You clearly shop in a disciplined and sensible fashion, rather than my ....oooh look venision steaks! approach......which is probably not the best way to cost effective trolley filling

I'd never buy those - venison is too deer.

I'd really hoped this thread wouldn't descend into a punfest, but then I guess you can't buck the trend

I'm not sure what I'm more amazed by - that Samdy can do his monthly shopping for 150 quid, or that you shop somewhere where venison steaks are an impulse buy. Where the hell do the two of you shop because I'm pretty sure neither applies in Tesco?

Fifty bonus points for working 'Muntjac' in.

Well there's only two mouths to feed. Little one is still on the homemade stuff, so to speak, at the moment.

kudus to anyone who manages that.

Samdy, does that cover everthing - i.e. non foods (bathroom stuff, cleaning stuff etc) as well as lunches every day etc?  I'm not being sarcastic either - I think I need some tips from you.  Me and my good lady spend at least sixty quid a week in the supermarket.

Mind you, with her cravings at the moment, we are spending a few quid a week on apples alone...

Yep, pretty much covers everything. We generally shop once a fortnight and spend around £75.

fucking hell talk talk you shopping in M&S or something?

there is 5 of us here and a month we probably spend £200 - £300 tops. this includes beer etc.

£600. fuck that

prob spend about 400.

for 2.

:eek:

that includes everything though eg bathroom stuff, beer, etc etc

..and at that cost presumably ladies of the night and several bottles of 20 year old whisky?

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Is there a mod that can just slap a 6 week ban on anyone that turns a thread into a pu ridden disaster zone?