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not a scenario i would want personally but Palace are in a deep mess.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crystal_palace/8714650.stm

Not going to happen. Wednesday would just not be relegated.

Blimey.  Won't happen, I'm sure (& good luck to Palace).  It would be a terrible way to go up.

On the hypothetical point of who would go up, I think I'm right in thinking that the precedent set in 1990 when Sunderland took our place in the Premier League simply by virtue of being losing Play Off finalists would see us up.  Although I'm sure Charlton would argue their corner having finished above us in the League.

Is there a rule in place for this?

Good luck Palace, great club

I wouldn't want that to happen at palace expense.

hopefully for them this is nothing more than applying pressure to hurry the ground deal

Apparently the League are saying that the Championship would go ahead with only 23 clubs.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/football/Exclusive--Sheffield-Wednesday-will.6331754.jp

Yep, as it happened after the Play offs, the league would go with 23 teams, if it was before the playoffs then another team would have been added.

Probably the fairest solution really. If either us or Wednesday replaced them the other side would consider it unfair.

But surely that would mean 3 automatic promotion places up for grabs in our league next season???  :D

No, it'll mean only two relegated from the Championship, whilst 3 go up, and that only 3 will be relegated from League 1 and 4 promoted.

I'd love to go up that way. We'd be another quiz question. Shallow victory and all that.

Wont happen.

So if 4 go up, then there will be 3 automatic places. So that no is a yes then?!?!

Anyway all hyperthetical. Thankfully not going to happen.

I think he meant 3 down from L1 and 4 up from L2 to make up the numbers, so one less relegation place in L1

Oh yeah.

Word on the street is it's looking extremely grim for Palace.

It would be a travesty if they go under and you have to feel for their fans today.  We have been close to the edge a few times but I don't ever recall being that close?

Ditto.

I think we pretty much were when Fitton took over.

But I still think the Palace story is scare tactics. Hope so.

I think the problem for Palace is that they don't have anyone chucking a few quid to keep the hounds at bay.  They employ less than 30 staff now and couldn't pay the wages.  Without anyone even willing to cover the cracks until a deal is done there simply can't be any cash to stop people from taking action anymore.

Sky News are reporting that the talks over the ground sale have collapsed.

Looking pretty bad for Palace at the moment.

On Talk Sport they said Swindon would go up

That confirms we wouldn't then!

Lets keep everything crossed for them.

this may sound funny but if it all happens i hope STFC turn round a decline the offer to be promoted.

hope palace survive though

Completely agree....

When we were demoted in 1990 it was pretty awful seeing the way that Keegan and Dennis Smith
were scrambling all over themselves to claim our place.Keegan wasn't even Newcastle manager but
went out of his way to say that Newcastle "deserved" to be promoted instead of us.Smith kept on
saying,"Rules are rules".

I also won't forget the media role that Jeff Powell (Daily Mail) played in his eagerness to see us demoted,
whilst more ethical journos and broadcasters such as Patrick Collins (Mail on Sunday) and BBC's Mike Ingham,
said that our demotion, was totally wrong.

It's not going to happen anyway but....

What would we achieve by refusing a place in the Championship? It would be an empty gesture and would mean another club taking it instead. It's totally different circumstances to what happened with us - the place isn't being taken away from another club.

I wouldn't want us to go up like that. Completely wrong.

Never had a problem with Palace and I remember the good footballing sides they had in 80's and 90's.

I hope if Palace do fold, that Wednesday stay up. Makes league 1 easier next season!

fingers crossed they go under and we go up

purely for the fact some palace arsehole tried to start on me when i was with my mrs after the FA cup game there a while back

One dickhead does something and that warrants seeing a football club go under?

Exception: Pete Winkleman, Franchise.

must admit im split, on one side its an undeserved promotion and the other side its a promotion!!

Yes.

You're right there.

Franchise is the only football club in the world who I would enjoy seeing go bust.

yup ralphy thats all it needs

mess with me and it will come back to haunt you

i am like Israel

Imagine being a Palace fan today though. Must be awful.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but what is so bad about promotion at the expense of a club going under? I only ask because i notice people saying we should refuse it. I don't understand why? We didn't make them go out of business, we didn't make them spend more than they could afford.

Sure i know it would be awful and I wouldn't wish it upon any football fan* to see a club go out of business, but i'm struggling to see what the problem is.


*Franchise are a franchise not a football club, therefore they have customers, not fans, so do not count.

As said in the other Palace thread, we would be nationally hated as the club that got promoted but couldn't do it ourselves.

We'd be up there with Franchise. Well not quite but you get the point.

we dont deserve to go up.i remember how it felt in 1990 with sunderland getting in wrongly.it fucking stank.
that said,if it's offered i dont see how we can turn it down

We would get a bit of stick from away fans but being hated thru-out the country is a bit harsh. What team wouldnt take the spot if it was offered to them?

Like someone said, its not our fault palace fucked up. We just happen to be in the right place at the right time, thats all.

But, its not gonna happen anyway.

Ah, i understand. It'd be like crossing a picket. Still, never look a gift horse in the mouth. We need to go up within a few seasons and they say it's worth £10m dont they? We'd be mugs to turn that down.

if anything we are owed a promotion as in 1990 the fans were punished not the people responsible

Are they still a club?

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Nothing much was going to happen at 3pm. It was just the deadline set by the administrator for a take over to be agreed and if missed they were going to put all their players up for sale. I hope Fitton has his cheque book ready, might be some good bargains to pick up.

Nathaniel Clyne and Darren Ambrose must be worth enough money to stave off the vultures for a few days at least.

Ambrose gone to QPR for £750k apprently

Palace are safe, good news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crystal_palace/8714650.stm

Pure brinkmanship.  Good luck to them.

Great news!