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Title: Stephen Darby
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:12:17
Semms to be going about it in a quiet way but this lad is fucking quality. Keeping Big Kev out the team and rightly so at the moment.

Doesn't attack as much as Amankawaah but then we are keeping clean sheets so i imagine thats what he does well.

May not get the same praise as Ferry ward etc but could prove equally as an important player come the end of the season


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:16:41
Agreed. If you told me anyone would keep Big Kev out the team I'd have thought you were talking rubbish.

Is he here long enough to feature in the play offs?

Now, what back 4 do we go for, for Tranmere. Does Sheehan come back in? If so does LJF come out the team or go back to CB with Cuthbert dropping out?


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:18:38
I think Darby offers more defensively than Amankwaah does. The backwards header to prevent that looping cross from going in yesterday was superb (it was nowhere near over the line Jonny).
 


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Crispy on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:23:30
Agreed. If you told me anyone would keep Big Kev out the team I'd have thought you were talking rubbish.

Is he here long enough to feature in the play offs?

Now, what back 4 do we go for, for Tranmere. Does Sheehan come back in? If so does LJF come out the team or go back to CB with Cuthbert dropping out?

Sheehan - LJF - Greer - Darby for me


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:24:29
You have to keep that back four imo that we had yesterday.Lesc has been quality this last month and i think probably had his best game as a left back yesterday


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:25:06
Anyone who would drop Cuthbert needs shooting


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Crispy on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:26:34
Apprently LJF is a center back by trade, why move him out of posision if theres no need?


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:27:15
Lesc has been quality this last month and i think probably had his best game as a left back yesterday

Really? I lost count the amount of times Leeds got in behind him in the first half, not to mention when he let Grella just wander in for the shot from point blank range. I'm not saying he had a very bad game, and it did nothing to detract from the result, but he still looked like he wanted to tuck in far too much and gave Leeds too much space down the wing.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:34:29
http://www.lfconline.com/news/tmnw/darby_hoping_for_promotion_513561/index.shtml


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:35:11
I think Darby offers more defensively than Amankwaah does. The backwards header to prevent that looping cross from going in yesterday was superb (it was nowhere near over the line Jonny).
 
I was starting to wonder if I'd made that up - crucial clearance to stop a goal that could have turned the game. Darby really showed why Liverpool rate him yesterday. If we've got more like him to come from this link-up with Liverpool, we're in for a great time


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:35:23
Yeah but that was mainly when we were playing a narrow midfield I think.

Leeds had a lot down that side and Ward wasn't anywhere to be seen.

Looked like for the first half an hour we tried the diamond midfield again with Ward off the front two.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:35:46
Apprently LJF is a center back by trade, why move him out of posision if theres no need?
Cuthbert is also a centre back by trade and imo has been our best one this season. Samdy i see what you are saying about yesterday he was at times caught out just think he looked more assured than other times this season and no matter what we think leeds have the players to drag any player out of position


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 08:42:41
Samdy i see what you are saying about yesterday he was at times caught out just think he looked more assured than other times this season and no matter what we think leeds have the players to drag any player out of position

I agree. I don't think he had any rabbit-in-the-headlight moments like he has done previously, it was more positional awareness. Although to be fair, Leeds had 3 or 4 different players cropping up on the right and he probably didn't have a clue who to track.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 09:06:31
As much as LJF has been decent recently, if cuthbert and greer are both fit they will play, and so they should.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 10:06:28
leeds

haha.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 13:04:40
the team should stay the same.you dont go to leeds and win 3-0 to change it.(barring injuries of course)


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: leefer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 13:08:56
We have three matches in seven days...the team will change at times i have no doubt about that.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 13:24:24
I think Darby offers more defensively than Amankwaah does. The backwards header to prevent that looping cross from going in yesterday was superb (it was nowhere near over the line Jonny).

It looked over to me but that was probably due to where I was standing and the beers I'd had before the game.

I thought Leeds were pulling our defenders all over the place yesterday with their movement which gave the impression LJF maybe wasn't having his best game. But the good thing was the way the whole team covered, the midfield was back covering when they needed to be and they didn't get in behind us that much. Even when they did there was cover.

Darby is getting better and better with each game, he looks more solid than Amankwaah defensively and is getting more confidence to push forward. Dropping him for Amankwaah would be very harsh and I can't see it happening myself.

Not sure what to do with LJF. Though over their last few games at CB I reckon LJF has been better than Cuthbert, so I'd go with LJF at CB and Sheehan at LB. Its obvious LJF is a bit of a confidence player and dropping him when he's been playing so well won't do him any favours, whilst leaving Cuthbert on the bench will give him bit of a kick up the arse so he plays out of his skin the next chance he gets.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: SCM on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 13:38:11
I mentioned this in another thread, but how nice is it having strength in depth?

This squad really does piss on the 2004 one. We're talking about leaving a couple of quality performers this season in Big Kev and Cuthbert out of the side, testament to Wilson for what he's building.

Darby's looked unspectacular but solid, which I won't complain about, seems level-headed as well.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:00:35
We could always rest Greer and play Cuthbert and LJF at CB.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:29:03
We have three matches in seven days...the team will change at times i have no doubt about that.

I think Sheahan will start on Monday at the expense of LJF, with Cuthbert and Greer starting.  Otherwise, it will be a case of knocks and strains. 

It's going to be interesting game, will Tranmere try and do as they did against Norwich by attacking from the start or do they do a Bristol Rovers by trying to hit us on the break.  I have a feeling Norwich underestimated Tranmere. Shirtliff was of course at Tranmere last season so it is certain they won't be underestimated.  A draw would be a very good result for Tranmere who have a poor away record so far.  I expect Tranmere will try and keep it tight and try and nick something when they can. 


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:38:40
sheehan in for lecs and that's our starting 11 for me too


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: fish head on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:40:51
I think Sheahan will start on Monday at the expense of LJF, with Cuthbert and Greer starting.   

id agree with that.
LJF will lose his place just like Phil Smith was unlucky to lose his place after playing quite well when Lucas was out injured.



Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 15:26:10
I agree with Jonny on this one. Dropping LJF after he has put in some fantastic performances at CB in recent weeks, would be a killer blow to his confidence. Resting Greer and bringing Cuthbert in would make more sense, but saying that, having the cool head of Greer at the heart of the defence is important. It's a tough decision, but i'd go with Greer and LJF at CB. This will also send out a message that nobodies place in the team is a cert, no matter how good you are.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: nochee on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 15:26:31
id agree with that.
LJF will lose his place just like Phil Smith was unlucky to lose his place after playing out of his skin when Lucas was out injured.



corrected for you


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 15:30:40
Darby was superb yesterday. Just looked so composed on the ball. LJF isn't a LB. Simple as that. I think Ward played at LB in the first half with LJF in a centre back trio. Well it seemed that way at least. I thought he had a decent enough game but lost his position so much. You can tell that he wants to plat at CB.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: santasdead on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 15:44:41
It's going to be interesting game, will Tranmere try and do as they did against Norwich by attacking from the start or do they do a Bristol Rovers by trying to hit us on the break.  I have a feeling Norwich underestimated Tranmere. Shirtliff was of course at Tranmere last season so it is certain they won't be underestimated.  A draw would be a very good result for Tranmere who have a poor away record so far.  I expect Tranmere will try and keep it tight and try and nick something when they can. 

Remeber Tranmere got two penalties - which won the game, I think the teamtalk for our lads will be to not give away penalties. Even with Norwich down to 10 men they seemed to boss the game and manage to play their football. All we have to do is breakdown the Tranmere defence and score - we did it four times last time out and now we have a stronger team - whereas they really dont.

Bck to Darby - He's mint.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: carbonwhite on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:05:25
there are bound to be changes for the game against tranny i can see manky maybe getting a start  :nod:


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:13:17
I think Ward played at LB in the first half with LJF in a centre back trio. Well it seemed that way at least. I thought he had a decent enough game but lost his position so much.

I noticed that but couldn't quite figure out what was going on. Ward was dropping deep a lot and LJF was away from the LB position a lot as he tracked players. Maybe it was tactics, maybe it was just them trying to handle the movement of the Leeds players and maybe it was bad play. But it worked which is the important thing. Seemed to revert back to normal in the 2nd half.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:26:30
I'd keep the same back 4. Sheehan has been our weakest link recently and JFL is playing very well.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:28:02
What Chalkie said.Anyone who thinks we should drop cuthbert or greer who is enjoying his best spell this season imo needs raping by thoses two blokes who can't stay in hotels


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 17:39:36
Dropping LJF after he has put in some fantastic performances at CB in recent weeks, would be a killer blow to his confidence.

I see where you are coming from but personally I think that Wilson is a good enough man manager to keep the whole squad happy.

He even has the loanee's playing out of their skin for us.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:58:45
Well i thought first half he gave the ball away too cheap.

Shouldnt be frightened of belting a clearence down the line in this league!


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: Luci on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 20:21:18

He even has the loanee's playing out of their skin for us.

This is such a good point.  I can honestly say I have never seen such passion, effort & commitment from loan players as much as I have this season.  Obviously referring to current loanees Ward, Sheehan & especially Ferry) and not the likes of Hutchinson.   


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 22:25:07
This is such a good point.  I can honestly say I have never seen such passion, effort & commitment from loan players as much as I have this season.  Obviously referring to current loanees Ward, Sheehan & especially Ferry) and not the likes of Hutchinson.  

I have requested that the H player is not to appear on posts!


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: leefer on Saturday, May 1, 2010, 18:49:00
My man of the match today...defended well,passed well and was bustin a gut to get forward.
This guy has been brilliant and lets not forget how young he is....a great loan signing.


Title: Re: Stephen Darby
Post by: RJack on Saturday, May 1, 2010, 19:45:39
I completely agree Darby was fantastic today. I thought Nouble was a lot better 2nd half if i'm honest. He got into the right positions when the ball was knocked forward and the cross for Paynters 2nd gave the lad a world of confidence.