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Is he the real deal?

What's his best attributes?

Cheek bone structure.

hes a cracking player, youre not having him back.

oh and tell gartside he is a cunt.

Oh he's the real deal alright. Well at this level he is. Really has played a key part in our success to date. He's pacy and has got a great left foot on him. Good crosser of the ball and a good shooter as well. Played down the middle against Norwich and got MOTM but has been playing LM for most of his time here. Can we have him please?

I assume you mean Gartside  :nod:  & not Danny

You can have him for another season if you get promoted to the championship.

Wouldn't want him to get a nosebleed if he played in the prem next season.

Hi Tomolloy....he has been outstanding,great pace,a good crosser and can finish.
His best attribute though is his hunger....his commitment for a player on loan is the bollox.
I am hoping that if we make The Championship we may have a chance on getting him permanently on account that you can see he wants first team football.

You'd have to pay us quite a bit, Coyle likes young English players.

But I'd be happy for him to have another season at Swindon :)

He'd walk into any side in this league and most of the ones above, even though he's 18. If he doesn't cut it in the top league, in the next couple of years, i'll bum the pope.

and i will felch said popes arse after, the lad is that good.

I can only echo what has already been said. Fantastic player! He has a very bright future in the game.
He's not afraid to run at his man, and reminds me of a Ryan Giggs type player i.e. will just knock it past his man and run! None of this step over bollocks.
His finishing has improved of late, and generally does a good job defensively, despite playing in a more attacking position for the majority of his career. But like Leefer says, his commitment is second to none!

Hah!

I see the pope has apologised to the Irish for past clerical arse rogering of choirboys and the like...apparently the Germans Italians etc aren't happy because they didn't get an apology...just the kiddy fiddling.

Oh you can take Tope off us though, ;)

Tope! We dont want no Tope, fool.

Noooooo! He is awful...

COME ON!

Heard he's pretty quick, just not in the head.  :D

Danny Ward. Top notch.

And our standards are not low this season either.

Leeds will really kick themselves if you get automatic promotion.

They released him when he was 15 or 16  ;D

We'll have him. I'm sure Huddersfield will be willing to pay a few million to take him off our hands. They don't like other teams having strikers.

And they released Jonathan Douglas and Lucas. And lent us Sheehan. Mwhahaha.

DW is great. Player out of his favoured position, just 18 years old, and yet still produces the goods week in week out!

He's nearly as bad as Ricky Shakes - Another player you boys sent us!

To be fair to Tope, he could still make it. He showed glimpses of class.....just not very often! But i think League Two will be more his level

He can't even make Rochdale's team.

They're a pretty decent side though, to be fair. Plus he's only 20 - still young

And Comyn-Platt, about time Bolton sent us someone decent for a change.

 :chuckle:       :pope:       :puke:

We've had many things to admire and enjoy this season, but one of the best for me is when he gets up a head of steam down that left wing running at defenders. What a sight, he glides past them as if they're static. And he produces too, good crosses, good passing, goals. Leefer mentioned his attitude - I totally agree, he's a winner. If we can get promoted it would be great if we could keep him - maybe a season loan?

Danny Ward is top class.

For a young kid he is built well and can hold his own against bigger players. He cool on the ball and knows how to pass the damn thing.

He generally keeps it simple and his possession retention is fantastic, his technique is spot on as well. He can run at and go past players and whip in a decent a cross and when in the box he can finish, good movement off the ball as well.

...but...what has impressed me most is his work rate. He gets up and down the pitch and always gives 100%. He tracks back and helps the left back out ALWAYS. Something McNamee never did. We've had plenty of loan players who havent given a shit but you can tell Ward wants to play for us right now.

He is a cracking lad and if he isnt in Boltons first team plans next season (and I see no reason why he shouldnt be to be honest) then we should definitely get him back down here.

If we don't get Wilshere again next season then I'd love to see him at the Reebok, probably better than Taylor.  :soapy tit wank:

It could do him a World of good if he gets a Championship season under his belt though, probably with you.

Hopefully with us.

He's better than that Elmander chap.

He doesn't always track back.

I thought he was excellent at the weekend against Norwich especially in the first half, possibly the best I've seen him play. Makes me think we might see him playing in an attacking midfielder role behind the striker(s) again.

Can't see him being here next season, looks pretty close to being ready for the big time to me. Got to be worth making Bolton an offer though, just on the off chance they want the money instead.

Seems like we have a few big Wardy fans in here, and I'm one of them too. What price does everyone think he fetch? Surely due to his age alone he must be worth almost as much as Cox went for.

If he is here next season, it certainly won't be as a permanent signing.

I'm a fan of Wardy. An attacking midfield player with a sweet left foot, a rare commodity  :)

i cant see us signing him either it would be great but the fee would be too high. we could offer a fee with a sell on clause also with appearances and goals maybe even a fee if he was called up to england in the future. england has always been short of left sided midfielders with a good left foot.

the lad has a big future.done superbly for us

Possibly my favourite loanee ever.

He oozes class and singing 'Danny, Danny Waaardddd' makes me happy.

Hope we get him back next season.

He is Definately too good for this league! If we're going to see him again i think we have to go up.
He will either be in Boltons sqaud week in week out or out on loan to a championship side.
but hey bolton have a new manager since he came and although i sure there keeping tabs on him an offer wouldnt hurt anyone. he wont be cheap though!

from the little i've seen of him, he's got all the physical attributes to make it at the top level and plenty of skill to match.

class finisher.

amen to all of that

Soooooo... How did he get on against Leeds today?

I'm not sure, but we won 3-0 and we sung his name when he was subbed off.

Normal good game today

not his best game, not his worst game

still got 100% commitment out of him.

Ward is totally overrated and won't make it, the best thing for Bolton would be to give him a chance at Swindon on a free for a five-year contract.

Agreed. Sadly, the lad is just not up to it. He's not a player. End of. We'll take him off your hands for a small fee.

anyone know how he's been doing for coventry ?

He's been out injured for a fair bit hasn't he?

no clue

He's just had a double hernia op.

Was watching us yesterday and was interviewed in the car park afterwards.

shame we couldn't get him back but good luck to him

From what he was saying yesterday it seemed there was a chance he would be coming back to here then Coventry came in and Bolton thought he'd be better off with them.

Nice to hear he was bothered enough to come and watch. Come back Danny

The endless chants of "Danny, give us a wave" got a bit tiresome though.

Still big mates with Charlie I think.

Is a bit of a sickener when you get players like Danny Ward and Jimmy Davis going to mediocre division 2 sides.

If they have gone to a side and its all come together then they should be given more time to keep building their confidence.  

League 1 is such a massive step up from reserve and youth team football that the step between L1 and Championship is inconsequential in comparison.

Agree to a point, although when you consider all the players we've sold on to higher divisions in the last few seasons, I'm struggling to think of one who has made the grade, so the step up from L1 to Championship/PL must be decent. Cox, Parkin, Fallon, Tozer, Lukas, all spring to mind.

Fallon was sought after by quite a few Championship clubs for a while. He's getting on now, but its a bit harsh to say he didnt make the grade? Parkin, was injuries and Ipswich fans being cunts. Cox went to the best squad in the Championship. And Tozer!? He'll do well to make League 2. Lukas looks to be finding his feet.

Jamie Cureton was very mediocre player and he managed to score in the Championship regularly despite being rubbish for us.

Look at Ferry and Caddis, 2 talented players who Im sure could cut it at Championship level, but cant get in our team at the moment. Sometimes things just dont run for you. So when a young player does make the grade and become an integral part of a team then they should stay there.

I think PL clubs do rush their young players. Even someone like Danny Ward, an obvious talent, his career is still in the balance, they are fragile. Too much reserve team football ruins young players. They have lots of money, and sitting on the bench in the doldrums, boredom takes over its hard to resist the drugs, booze and women. Premier League clubs also seem to be totally unrealistic with regard to the future talent of some players. Lead into gold and all that. I cant see Lukas J ever making it at PL level because he is too slow, that will never change. Tozer? Unbelievable.

Danny Ward was loving it at Swindon. He was very popular with the players and the fans. He would have been fantastically motivated to play for Swindon and work hard.

After someone posted a twiiter link earlier for the adver, they said that they have an interview in tomorows paper with AF regarding Danny Ward. You never know.....

One way to appease the fan base over the sale of Austin....

He would possibly make a good partner up front for Austin - they done well together there in the PO games I seem to recall

Austin and Ward playing for us come the end of January? I wish but highly unlikely.

Ward won't be coming back. We need to get over it.

anyone know how long ward has left on his contract at bolton? seem to remember him signing an extension with them. doubt fitton would come up with the cash needed for him, considering we've basically signed ritchie.

I think whatever the Adver. will be running will probably be Fitton's way of getting a "hopeful" story out about the club. Trying to take peoples minds off the team not playing so well. It's obvious he won't come back if we're signing Ritchie - just a waste of money, unless Austin goes and Ward is the targeted replacement.

Couldn't see him coming back if Charlie went.  As somebody mentioned they're good mates and I seem to remember reading somewhere a while back that Ward loved playing alongside Charlie.

Or if McGovern leaves and he continues to play Ritchie on the right

I know. It's the only scenario i could come up with though :)

Or if Ward is signed to play up top, seen as he's a striker. Not sure why Ritchie signing has anything to do with it, and I'd be all for Wardy playing alongside Charlie until the summer, if he's fit.

Cant see that either.

You're all too negative......Wardy to sign, none to leave  :)

I’m always sceptical about players returning for a second stint, more often than not they fail to live up to over the top expectation levels placed on them

If he was back to full fitness he would surely have more Champ clubs sniffing around him again.  I’ll happily have him but I doubt he will be the saviour some people make out.

Out of interest, how much do people think Ward is worth at the moment?

I suppose has had a similar career to Ritchie, a few appearances in the top 2 flights but looks good in league 1 so on that basis he could go it for something not too far north of the £125k Ritchie value.

I personally think he should be valued around the £500k mark though.

Maybe it's the fond memories, but I thought Wardy was in another league in terms of ability compared to your average loanee. It seemed to me that he was in the Jimmy Davis or James Milner mould of an obviously very talented youngster who will be exceptional when older.

In fact I think he was better than both of those. Which is why I think I'd have a brain haemorrhage if he joined us on a perm, because a great many teams in the champ and prem would have had to have been stupid to have let a poxy league 1 team get him. (Hence why we wouldn't get him on a perm.)

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anyone know how long ward has left on his contract at bolton? seem to remember him signing an extension with them. doubt fitton would come up with the cash needed for him, considering we've basically signed ritchie.
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He signed a new 3 year contract before he went on loan to Coventry

He's got nowhere near Bolton's first team, and he's been injured a lot. So you never know, this could be the time that a bid would really tempt Bolton?

It would have to be a big one though. Probably have to break our transfer fee record.

But I think a sum around a million would pay off if he stayed fit for us. Top top quality. Future England player if he stays fit. Something a bit special for a special player? Im sure Fitton is very very tempted! It would be magic.

I can't see us spending £1m for a player even if we sold Austin for £5m - at league one level we simply don't have the turnover to support that...

I rekon he's well tempted.

Havn't heard much from Fitton this season.

There is no way we could justify spending £1m on any player at this level and I'm sure that Fitton would never even consider it

Ditto, too much of a risk at that price. 350k + a 50% sell on might work though.

A million ?? No way. We would be stupid to splash that much cash on one player at league 1 level.

There is no doubt of Wardy's tallent but we simply can't afford him unless Bolton are willing to sell for 300 to 400k.

The fact of having a double hernia...and hamstring trouble makes it almost certain no money will be passed by Fitton....a loan deal it will be or nothing at all.

If he hasn't gone anywhere come the last week of the window, then we must stand a pretty good chance of getting him back?

When he signed for Coventry on loan the fee was reduced every time he played. It was so arranged so Ward could gain experience (or put him in the shop window if you're cynical). Whichever way, it would seem he isn't for sale at what we would consider a reasonable price.

Coyle is far to savvy to let the lad go, the only saving grace may be Bolton are struggling a little financially as their benefactor Davies is struggling a little and the chairman old Phil the pill may be tempted to cash in.

That said I doubt the 300k I would imagine is our spending cap would touch the proverbial sides of old Premiership brown trough.

Value I would say between 500k – 750k at present, despite a good rep at reserve team level and his superb performances last season he seems to have slipped off the radar a little.  A decent loan spell in the Championship and you could be looking in excess of a million after just a couple of games if he plays as well as he did last season.

By a little you mean 93m in debt ;)

Good local lad to me as well!

Its only the real quality thats worth any money in football.

This lad is a bit special. I think at the moment his value is as low as it will ever be, and it would be well worth a bid, and I think the board are thinking abou it. Yes it would be a lot, but you could buy plenty of players for £100k who are worth nothing a year later.

If it were to happen (big fucking if) you'd imagine it'd be a short term loan for 1 month which we'd look to extend to the end of the season.  Still think some Championship club will take a punt (loan) once he's back to full fitness.

Come the end of last season I doubt any amount of money could have bought him and I'd be surprised if this season has made that much difference, or at least not enough difference to put him in our price range.

If for some reason he was available for £1m or less, it's the sort of purchase for which there is an outside chance of Fitton and co digging deep in their pockets for as the potential returns are far greater than even Austin.

Not going to happen though. Maybe on loan but not on a permanent deal.

Looks like he could be lining up against us Saturday for Huddersfield.  Not official yet but Huddersfield fans seem to think he'll be joining them until the end of the season  ::)

Seen this also. Signing him because of Pilington's injury. Cracking signing for them ... whilst we sign some unkownk from Palace.

Go easy on us Saturday please Danny!

That hurts!!

Ah, remember the days when we could sign quality players like Danny Ward on loan...

Can this season get any worse. Football has be so depressing this season.

Confirmed

http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1004~2315589,00.html

It is what it is.

We were never going to get him back. Especially after Megson got sacked.

:(

The Town faithful will give him a standing ovation I'm sure.

It'll be sad to see him help put another nail in the league 2 coffin. But he's gotta do what he's paid to do .

He will destroy us on saturday.

Typical that our next game is Huddersfield. He will score no doubt. I do wish him well but only after Saturday of course.

Is he certain to start?

I expect so, direct replacement for their best player Anthony Pilkington who is injured.

Great signing for Huddersfield.

I think so. Pilkington is out for the rest of the season and they haven't got much else in the way of wide men. Ward is perfect for them as he's obviously been in a promotion push with us last season.

Damn

Oh FFS

what a kick in the teeth. Not from Ward obviously, just terrible luck if he starts his first game for them against us.

Looking back through the posts, obviously I was in dreamland that the board would spend that amount of money (still rekon he would return a big profit). But their efforts in signing strikers in January were miserly.

Not wishing him anything bad ... but two yellows tonight would prove he still has some feelings for us.

The bastard should refuse to play against us.

He probably doesn't give a crap about us anymore now his pal has gone to Burnley.

He hasn't played for a while, so he may be on the bench first.

Came on after 46 mins last night according to the beeb

Danny Wilson's Stealth Substitute technique :D

It seems we were in for Ward but understandably he went to Huddersfield. At least the departure of Wilson didn't stop us tyring for him.

No...but the departure of Wilson was probably why he wasn't interested.

And the league table and location of Huddersfield.

 Can't say I blame the lad, hopefully he has an off day on Saturday but knowing our luck he'll score a hatrick.

Being bottom of the league might just have had something to do with as well leefer.

Correct......but surely playing on loan in Lge 1 wont really matter to him who he plays for.....its all much the same....hope he does well after Saturday.

You're a nice bloke, but do you ever think before you type?

As a loan player, it'd be a damn sight easier to slot into a team that's settled, playing well and with confidence than to come into a team of shitty, disinterested, ragtag bunch of shambolic wasters who haven't won since 1826.

Although, he knows the area. He knows most of the people. He knows he is wanted. He knows that he was well treated by the fans.

This is one of those Roy of The Rovers moments when you want there to be some honour and loyalty in football. Where someone like Ward or Cox or even Paynter comes back to help a club dear to their heart get out of a gigantic mess. Putting club before career or financial gain - Doing the right thing..........Ok....I'll get my coat!

Your taxi has arrived!!

Know exactly what you mean, but there's no honour or loyalty in football anymore - Austin was a prime example of that!

I don't think people realise the influence Owen Coyle had in the decision.