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Title: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: oxford_fan on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 19:00:04
Was aired the other day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8004299.stm


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 19:03:33
I was delighted to hear him say he was a Liverpool fan.  Which means he doesn't support Reading.  I have no idea why this pleases me.  Petty.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: dell boy on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 19:13:45
I think that definitely confirms he is off at the end of the season.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 19:17:30
He's too good for this level.  We should just be thankful that we have a board that has stabilised the club's balance sheet - because we'll now get a proper fee for him rather than a mickey mouse offer from another club looking to get him on the cheap.

Life carried on when Parkin went...and it will too after SC leaves.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 19:27:06
Might be me but i thought he sounded like a typical prem player full of cliches.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: alanmayes on Saturday, April 18, 2009, 20:48:42
Coxy's always comes accross as a young,confident and ambitous young gun.

I wouldn't want him any other way.Love to see him stay,but i know it's becoming unrealistic.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 12:28:50
Might be me but i thought he sounded like a typical prem player full of cliches.

'I want to get to the Premier league, the flash motors, the big houses, you get made for life'.

Not one mention of the glory of the game, or a love of the game.

Sorry Coxy, but I wont miss you.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 12:34:31
'I want to get to the Premier league, the flash motors, the big houses, you get made for life'.

Not one mention of the glory of the game, or a love of the game.

Sorry Coxy, but I wont miss you.
I'm pretty sure 99% of the players in the Premiership are attracted by the money above most things. Can you imagine Steven Gerrard leaving Liverpool because he thought they weren't playing the game in the right way? Or Paul Scholes leaving United because he was fed up of his team mates ruining the game by diving and intimidating referees?

I see your point Spence. We all love football and expect players to be the same. And I'm sure that many of them do genuinely love the game. As for Cox, I think the fact he was willing to drop a division to get regular football shows his desire to make it through hard work, which is something I admire


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 12:42:40
His comments were largely generic. The interview indicates he'd go (but we are still at a stage where our board decides that or not) this summer which is probably why OF started this thread!

I'll miss him as a Town player when he goes because he scores goals and will be the reason we didn't get relegated... if we avoid relegation, which we probably will now (75% sure).

What he does in his private life is his business as long as he contributes to my love of football!!! It's disappointing to hear materialistic comments but that's life.

I just hope his hard work isn't ruined by a move like Parkin's was (whether it's injuries or lack of form)


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:05:18
As for Gerrard, yes I could have seen him leaving Liverpool. Seemed more than tempted by Chelsea at one stage, despite being paid millions. Paul Scholes is a class act. Dont see what either has to do with Cox though?

Just get so frustrated at how money obsessed the game is.

You might laugh, but I tell you someone who did love the game. Paul Gascoigne. He loved it so much that he can barely live without playing it. Who was the last England player who would give everything? Every single thing they owned in order to play for England? Gazza would have. Stuart Pearce would have.

Honestly, I wont miss Simon Cox. He's scored 25 goals for Swindon in a season, and Ive never sung his name. Thats a damning indictment. When he leaves I will feel nothing. It was inevitable. Good business, thats all you were Simon. As a club weve gone backwards. Now, where can we find some players who really want to play football?

Another stupid theory of mine. But its not healthy to have a team where one player is so obviously worth about 20 times more than the others. There are some players at Swindon who talk the same talk as Cox, but cannot walk the same walk. Im not saying that Cox has corrupted them, but I think its made them other players feel a lot closer to fame and riches that they actually are.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:08:03
Where can we find some players who really want to play football?

The Blue Square Premier. Peterborough built their soon-to-be-Championship squad on Non-League players.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:15:25
He's ambitious and wants a big house and a flash car. So what? how does that mean he doesn't like playing football? How can you not be appreciative of what he does for us? Apart from his goals he runs his fucking arse off in every game!

Off the pitch he's quite heavily involved in charity work, hardly the actions of a selfish, money-centric person.

I'll miss him when he goes. I'll miss the goals, the commitment, the desire to win and the tireless effort he puts in.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:22:37
Well, the proofs in the pudding. Everyones known he was a flash git from the day he came. He's respected and admired, but he's not loved.

When that interviewer said to him 'Premier League' the first thing that came into his head was £££. Im not going to be one of these hypocrites who says he hates the money in the game and the attitude of the players, but crawls up the arse of his own team's players who show themselves to be a lot more interested in money than football.

What has he done for us? We are shite.

As for the charity stuff, Im sure he has a well paid, clever agent.

Not expecting this to be popular.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:22:51
Cox knows he's better than us but has not stressed he wants out in a cuntish Cureton way.

Still, I think if we do get riud of Cox and bring in a couple of replacements who are just as committed in a game we'll be better for it. Saying that, I think Cox tries a bit too hard to win sometimes but more often than not this has got us results.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: oxford_fan on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:23:39
I'm pretty sure 99% of the players in the Premiership are attracted by the money above most things. Can you imagine Steven Gerrard leaving Liverpool because he thought they weren't playing the game in the right way? Or Paul Scholes leaving United because he was fed up of his team mates ruining the game by diving and intimidating referees?

Bad examples there, I get the impression that Paul Scholes would be a footballer whether he was paid £50pw or £50k, Gerrard is probably the same too.

The Blue Square Premier. Peterborough built their soon-to-be-Championship squad on Non-League players.

How has Aaron McLean got on this season? They took him from Grays I think, scored against us and looked handy. Powerful, pacy, decent finish.

Also does anyone know how John-Paul Pitman has got on since leaving Crawley? He scored a great strike against us and looked like a decent talent. I can't remember which club he went to.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:28:26
How has Aaron McLean got on this season? They took him from Grays I think, scored against us and looked handy.

In all competitions Aaron McLean has 19, Craig Mackail-Smith has 24 and George Boyd has 10 - over 50 goals courtesy of the Conference.

Even the likes of Chris Whelpdale has done well who they brought in for Billericay Town.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:31:42
You might laugh, but I tell you someone who did love the game. Paul Gascoigne. He loved it so much that he can barely live without playing it. Who was the last England player who would give everything? Every single thing they owned in order to play for England? Gazza would have. Stuart Pearce would have.


David Beckham


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:34:33
Wayne Rooney


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:35:54
The Blue Square Premier. Peterborough built their soon-to-be-Championship squad on Non-League players.

Mark Marshall, Kaid Mohammed, Darren Dykes and Lloyd Opara say Hi.

Our choice of players from the lower leagues hasn't served us too well over the last few years.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:36:41
Wayne Rooney

'Once a blue, always a blue'.

As for Beckham what about LA Galaxy? Took the money and ran for the hills.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:39:17
The question was about giving it all for England though, wasn't it?


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:42:53
The question was about giving it all for England though, wasn't it?

Yeah, and I dont believe either of them would give it all up. Too much to loose.

Going to LA Galaxy should have finnished off Beckhams England career 3 years early. He's realised what a mistake it was. But he still risked it, for the sake of money, it was so she could make the megabucks. 

As for Wayne, he does have that raw emotion that makes me like him. But would his wife let him give it all up? She would talk him round. He's a scouser, boyhood Everton fan, who engineered a move to play for the Mancs. Thats a tough stain to shift on his character. To make yourself hated amongst your own people for money. I suppose you could argue he did it to win trophies. But surely 1 trophy at Everton would have been far more glorious than 10 at Man United?


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 13:55:18
I dont expect Everton were in a position to turn down the best part of 30million either...


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 14:12:44
The Blue Square Premier. Peterborough built their soon-to-be-Championship squad on Non-League players.

Maybe we should employ Keith Alexander as a scout then, because he bought most (if not all) of them.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 15:11:04
I dont expect Everton were in a position to turn down the best part of 30million either...

On reflection, part of that payment would seem to be in return for a silence on the roles of the agent, simmilar to Keane's inflated figure to Liverpool.

For Scousers, playing for the Liverpool clubs seems to be bigger than playing for England.

You can make an argument for Shearer. But Rooney? And Beckham had a big hand in creating the whole circus in the first place.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 15:23:27
[url width=121 height=150]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/psycho.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: stfctownenda on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 18:41:49
Well, the proofs in the pudding. Everyones known he was a flash git from the day he came. He's respected and admired, but he's not loved.

When that interviewer said to him 'Premier League' the first thing that came into his head was £££. Im not going to be one of these hypocrites who says he hates the money in the game and the attitude of the players, but crawls up the arse of his own team's players who show themselves to be a lot more interested in money than football.

What has he done for us? We are shite.

As for the charity stuff, Im sure he has a well paid, clever agent.

Not expecting this to be popular.

Some interesting points for sure Spence but the charity work he is doing he does not get paid, him and his wife are saving and raising money to build a new ward at a hospital where one of there close friends died. 

He has always had a swagger for sure and been nothing but arrogant at times. 

But I judge a footballer on whether he gives you 100% everytime he goes on the pitch, I would say Coxy has done that more than any of our players, I would also say our lack of success has nothing to do with him and more down to the poor poor quality of the other 10 players alongside him.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: adje on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 18:46:08
David Beckham

Beckham doesn't give a toss about anything but himself and his fucking profile


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Flea on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 18:47:39
"Going to LA Galaxy should have finnished off Beckhams England career 3 years early. He's realised what a mistake it was. But he still risked it, for the sake of money, it was so she could make the megabucks."

I thought Beckham payed to get out of his contract at LA Galaxy so he could play for Milan and to save his England career?  


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: stfctownenda on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 18:50:09
"Going to LA Galaxy should have finnished off Beckhams England career 3 years early. He's realised what a mistake it was. But he still risked it, for the sake of money, it was so she could make the megabucks."

I thought Beckham payed to get out of his contract at LA Galaxy so he could play for Milan and to save his England career?  

Don't think he did, is he not playing for both Galaxy and Milan now?


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Flea on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 18:53:03
Not sure i thought i hered he was going to have to pay to get out of his contract. Ill have to do some research.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 20:09:38
[url width=121 height=150]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/psycho.jpg[/url]

Now thats a man who made me feel proud.

NATIONAL HERO!


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 20:27:59
Had to miss in '90 first though didn't he!


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 20:50:36
He didnt miss. Bodo Ilgner saved it.

He's just a hero mate face it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZqV_QCXp2w&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 20:53:29
He's a player I highly regarded but he's not my hero!

Save or off target - He didn't score though did he ;)


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 20:58:32
Don't think he did, is he not playing for both Galaxy and Milan now?
I think you're right. There were rumours that Milan wouldn't pay a transfer fee so he was going to pay it himself, but that was probably made up by some nobody clown who works for the Mirror/Sun/Mail/whatever


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 21:08:49
Its not all about who you 'regard' though is it?

I admired Diego Maradona, but he was still a cheating little shit.

There arent many players who can match Stuart Pearce in terms of being a talisman. And also a beacon of what playing for England is all about. He's a man that grown men twice his age would look up to.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 21:12:03
what playing for England is all about.

Was

He's still not my hero though :)


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 22:06:48
Sort of thing that needs to be done in close season.....he has a job to do....then he can fuck off with my thanks and blessing.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 22:27:12
I see the thread has gone onto player attitudes a bit...

I think one of the biggest problems with the top level game at the moment is the way that media pundits paint bad attitudes for good ones.

Being a petulant whining diving cunt is in no way part of a good attitude for a winger (CR). A bit of confidence and arrogance is a good thing in a big skilful forward (WR), but that's not the same as being an aggressive bullying thug.

I've picked a few initials out there for examples, but it's something which is rife throughout the mainstream punditry on the top level of football. Yeah, the top players are good, but that's not a reason to try and spin their negative attitudes into positive attributes.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 23:30:02
I've just been listening to the Pet Shop Boys recent single Love Etc. (great tune). Reminded me of Cox for some reason.


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 19, 2009, 23:31:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsYzsV4RzdE


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: larwood on Monday, April 20, 2009, 17:05:08
Random Cox spot of the day by beady eyed me,he's in the centre pages of the Sun,on the tv behind the radio presenter.

Do i win a prize,surely GFM's solied burberry check underpants are mine  :D


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 20, 2009, 17:06:09
Was Dear Diedre any good today?


Title: Re: BBC bit on Cox
Post by: larwood on Monday, April 20, 2009, 17:10:34
"I was sure i had a life threatening illness-but it was hay fever."

"If i refuse to have kinky sex with my husband,he gets moody.He calls our normal sex boring and vanilla."