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For the record, let me state that I do not like Jade Goody. Never have from the moment she came to the public's attention in Big Brother. The again, I dislike pretty much everybody who has claimed Z list celebrity from Big Brother et al.

Having said all that, I do feel compassion for her situation. I know from indirect experience the suffering that terminal cancer patients go through; my aunty is currently undergoing chemotherapy for some form of cancer and its hitting her hard. Like it would anybody I guess.

What grates me about Jade Goody's situation is the way the media are jumping all over this, perpetuated by that scumbag Max Clifford. I don't blame her for doing what ever she can to provide for her two young children that will soon lose their mother at the ages of 4 and 5 years old - the toll on them will be immense and they have to deal with that for the rest of their lives. However, what about the hundreds and thousands of other people suffering with cancer who are unable (or unworthy) of the same media attention of Ms Goody? How are they able to provide for their loved ones lives once the inevitable happens? I'll leave you all to think about that one.....

People die all the time. Because she's 'famous' I'm supposed to give a shit?

I feel as sad for her as I do for anyone else I don't know who dies.

Which means I don't give a fuck.

Your not supposed to think anything hertha, although I guess people can apply someone elses situation to their own and realise how fortunate they are and how sad it is for the other person.

Usually I'm the same as you, but I guess the reason I can express some compasion is because my family was in a similar situation 3 years ago.

That's the point I was making though hertha, it's not sad for you and that's fair enough. I wasn't making any moral judgement, more trying to explain why other people express an opposite view to yours.

How many people die of cancer every week? That's life Si and although it's obviously traumatic and harrowing for those close to them, the rest of us don't give it a second thought.

It's sad for her family and friends, but me? Meh

I know it shouldn't, but it fucking annoys me when some celebrity dies and people say how sorry they are.

Are they really? Are they fuck. It means absolutely nothing to them and nor should it.

Jade Goody, FFS.........

And comment on an internet football forum ;)

I know it shouldn't, but it fucking annoys me when some celebrity dies and people say how sorry they are.

Are they really? Are they fuck. It means absolutely nothing to them and nor should it.

Jade Goody, FFS.........

People die all the time. Because she's 'famous' I'm supposed to give a shit?

I feel as sad for her as I do for anyone else I don't know who dies.

Which means I don't give a fuck.

A Tao of Jade Goody will become a bestseller while Channel Jade will emerge showing footage of her TV "career" which will be looped for eternity.

I for one cannot wait.

Cancer, booooo - but feeling sad for a Z celebrity because appearances in Hello! magazine won't save her? Not likely.

She's "earned" loads of money, I'd rather be with my family than talking to Clifford and/or journalists.

She is trying to do both, as much as Clifford may be a leach he is earning her kids a good future.

anyone with terminal cancer deserves sympathy.it matters nothing what they have done,or not previously.people including the victim will have their lives turned upside down because of it.goody's kids lives will never be the same once she's gone.no money will ever come close to what they will lose.i am not slating anyone here, but think what it would mean to you to lose your nearest and dearest, as jade goody is that person to at leat 2 children.remember 1 in 3 of us will be effected by it one day or another.....

1 in 3 of us will suffer from it, I doubt anyone could go their whole life without being affected by it. We will all lose someone we are close to because of cancer.

I know it shouldn't, but it fucking annoys me when some celebrity dies and people say how sorry they are.

Are they really? Are they fuck. It means absolutely nothing to them and nor should it.

Jade Goody, FFS.........

I feel for her Sons more than anything they are soo young.

Yeah JFW she is getting married. Mr Harrods man gave her the weding dress as his present to them!

REALLY OMG!! I would love to go in the wedding bit in Harrods but its by appointment only

last time I went to Harrods Mr Al Fayed walked through - I think that means we are bessies and he might give me a wedding dress?

REALLY OMG!! I would love to go in the wedding bit in Harrods but its by appointment only

last time I went to Harrods Mr Al Fayed walked through - I think that means we are bessies and he might give me a wedding dress?

And you'll wear that when?  ;)

Im no fan of hers but dont see any harm in her living her last weeks through the media and her making a few quid for her kids.People are very sniffy about the whole thing because its her,if she were a nice middle class reporter writing the storey of her demise in the Times she'd probably win awards for doing it.Fact is some people are intersted in her life and if 1 or 2 people take a test because of what they have seen and her kids get some money then there is no negative side to doing it all on telly.

true story, on a tuesday i was told i had 7 days to live, i asked them if i could come back next monday, dont think i realised the gravity of the situation :)

Yes and when it happens it's horrible. The point I was making had nothing to do with what I think about Goody's career, or what type of person she is, it was about how people seem to think the death of someone famous is somehow sadder than that of anyone else.

Is it sad? Of course it is, but it won't affect me at all, just like the 1000's of other unfortunate people I don't know who will die of cancer won't affect me either.

your not on your own, im down the road and according to spacey im a better lay than him.

And this has been the the kick up the arse I needed. What time's dinner going to be ready?

Arrrr I love you mexy poo :-)

what colour?

I see she has sold the rights to her wedding for a million! *trys to put image of Max Clifford rubbing hands together in Glee out of my mind*

This is a serious question - and I dont mean it in a nasty way but do you think she will wear a wig ot get married bald? - I mean the girlies will probably see what I mean but - every girl wants to like nice on her wedding day - but if she wore a wig everyone would know it was a wig but without one she might feel less weddingy - if you know what I mean????

I'd go one of those big stripy gold Ancient Egyptian head dress things.

booo I really want you to wear that - then help me find milk again! people will think we are slow readers!

Jade will not wear a wig to her wedding. Her, bald and in a wedding dress will sell more copies of Heat.

Jade will not wear a wig to her wedding. Her, bald and in a wedding dress will sell more copies of Heat.

Charity? what you on about?

Is there a place where we can donate money to her now?

wouldnt fucking suprise me, but I am sure I heard it mentioned that Elton john was letting her use one of his mansions for the wedding, and Al Fayed had given her a wedding dress free of charge.

wouldnt fucking suprise me, but I am sure I heard it mentioned that Elton john was letting her use one of his mansions for the wedding, and Al Fayed had given her a wedding dress free of charge.

Yeah, the outrage you must feel! I heard that Ted Hankey is giving her free darts lessons! It makes my bloody blood boil!

I wonder how long it will take the press to turn on her if she manages not to die for longer than expected.

Is it bad I laughed at that?

but Im suprised to be honest no-one has accussed her of faking it or something? I would like to make it clear I do not think she is

I don't think you can "fake" cancer, JFW.

I think my ex has just died of cancer, though im not sure, shes 29. The reason i dont know is she lives in mexico and apart from her i have no contact with any of her friends or family.

its fucking awful, i saw her in october and she said she was going to see the doctor because she had a cough she couldnt shift. Life is a total cunt sometimes.

Any closer to getting a new kidney?

I haven't read much of this thread but my mate's friend died from cancer last week and was in his early to mid twenties.

The sooner they can find a cure for this horrible disease the better!

yes actually, should be up on the list by end of march. have done all the pre transplant tests and all looking rosie. fingers crossed time.

I can't believe some people - they don't get this wound up about other 'celebrity' weddings.

I do. All celebrities annoy the fuck out of me. Not as much as the mong publics adoration of the celebrities. Fuck sake!

What pisses me off about all of these hand outs and shit, is the fact that no-one ever bats an eye lid to someone who isnt famous. If some normal lassie with cancer went into Harrods looking for a wedding dress, I bet Al Fayed wouldnt doante her a fucking dress.

Someone just bought me a Jade Goody calendar, but it only goes up to March.

The sooner they can find a cure for this horrible disease the better!

This whole Jade business reminds me a little of when Saddam Hussein got executed. On the one hand you feel sad because a human being is going to die but then on the other hand you feel happy because they will not be able to terrorise other people.

[cynic alert]
There won't ever be a cure for any major illness. There's no money in a cure. There's only money in prevention and suppression. Hence, no attempts by drug companies are made into cures. It's not in their interests; why kill the golden goose?
[/cynic alert]

[cynic alert]
There won't ever be a cure for any major illness. There's no money in a cure. There's only money in prevention and suppression. Hence, no attempts by drug companies are made into cures. It's not in their interests; why kill the golden goose?
[/cynic alert]

And the oil companies are sitting on an engine design that runs on fresh air too.

And the oil companies are sitting on an engine design that runs on fresh air too.

Apparently hours from death now. slipping in and out of conciousness.

Who is this 'Jade Goody'? I've never heard of her.

Who is this 'Jade Goody'? I've never heard of her.

Really? You must work hard at avoiding the media.

She is a former reality TV contestant who is now terminally ill. Mr Clifford is presiding over her last few days.

I do completely avoid the media. I don't watch telly, I don't read newspapers and I avoid the BBC/Pravda website like the plague.

All of my information comes from Internet blogs.

My little Sis has just had a severely abnormal smear, where they've found pre-cancerous cells. She's had a biopsy and will no doubt have the cells removed shortly. I doubt it will result in a hysterectomy, but that's the worst case and i've no doubt that all will be well.

Jade's plight didn't make my sister take a smear, she was due one anyway, but i do blame the media, or perhaps mine and family's lack of knowledge, for the fear and pain this filled me with until i started doing some Googling.

Fuck me your grasp on reality must be pretty fucking shaky?

Not at all.

News from independent Internet sources is a damn more real than the propaganda you get from the main stream media/BBC.

I read a good analogy for the statist society that likened the media to the Matrix.

Take the red pill...wake up...

Do you think these are likely to be reasonable and balanced and obey the rules of good objective journalism? Do you think that the average blogger responsibly checks his sources, and ensures their authenticity before he posts a rumour or a link to a scare story or conspiracy theory?

Point me in the direction of 'good objective journalism' in the MSM. The Telegraph certainly isn't, perhaps with the exception of the excellent Christopher Booker.

There are indeed a huge range of blogs out there. I mainly read the ones that provide intelligent balanced analysis of news stories that the media have distorted. It's a huge reservoir of thought and reasoned debate.

You seem to think that your little internet friends have no political axe to grind, when clearly they do, because we all have a political perspective, indeed and ideology, it's just some of us are up front about it.

You read what you want, that's your preference. I completely support free choice. I'm up front about not bothering with the MSM because it is laborious to have to analyse the propaganda myself. I would rather let others do it for me.

That perfectly illustrates my point. Can you not see that being concerned with media bias is perfectly understandable, but just changing to another media source and not critically reading that because that source is "doing it for you" is just swapping one biased perspective and analysis for another set. Perhaps a set that more closely reflects your view of the world, but that just makes if all the more dangerous because it means you never have to question your own prejudices.

Yes, I can see what you are saying and the blogs that I read definitely do reflect my view of the world. But that's a view that sits apart from authoritarian statist nonsense and the left/right spectrum of traditional politics and by its very nature is inherently objective.

I think that the truth and a realistic philosophy is the antidote to prejudice, bias, dogmatism and ideology.

As I said, pax.

So you actively avoid anything that might challenge your world view?

Are you challenging my world view, young Flammable?

So now a thread on a dying woman turns into a my opinion is more valid as i read the right paper thread

Hope your sister is ok barry. Fingers crossed

Hope all goes fine with your sister mate.

Smears are a bit ming and I had a particually bad experience last time but I would defo never miss one or put one off again.

Im sure your sister will be OK xxx 

I've come up with a conspiracy theory that we're all unknowingly acting out the novel '1984', but my conspiracy theory falls down because I can't decide who plays the central character. Probably someone like GFM would be a laugh.

2. Nothing - nobody and no-one - is real. I'm in a superadvanced virtual reality simulator.

thetownend.com isn't the simulator though!

I suppose I might be.

natasha richardson

I was sort of hoping (well not really, wishing people dead isn't very nice) that someone more important would die at the same time. Horribly pissing off Max Clifford and letting Goody die with a bit of quiet dignity. Oh well. RIP Jade Goody, Bryce Morrison and Walt Poddubny.

I see the point sort of....  guess as much as it pissed me off to see her mug everywhere and keep reading about it (I'm as bad for starting this thread), She did highlight a lot of things about cancer and lowering the minimum age kinda thing so... For the most part though she was thick as shit and a bully on TV but seems to have been devoted to her kids and again highlighted a lot of things about cancer so...

Well said gazza. My mum and nan had cervical cancer and now my 22 yr old sister wants to know why she cant have a test

When I was in Australia the doctors over there couldnt believe our age for those tests was 25, their age is either 18 or 21, I can't remember which.

I don't think its been changed officially Gaz but its on the cards....

you have some weird conversations luci...

actually did you talk to Karl Kennedy about that before he sang about STFC with you?

Although she was frequently vilified, Jade Goody's final days as a victim of cancer saw her transformed into a serious figure whose frankness about her illness was deemed by some to be beneficial to the wider community. Her decision to live out those days in public earned her large sums of money from the media, but she insisted that her motive for this was to assure the future of the two young sons she left behind.

The first time she was mentioned in the press, in May 2002, Jade Goody was described as a "pretty dental nurse, 20, from London". But 24 hours later, as she began her gobby, ignorant trajectory in the Big Brother house, The People went on the attack under the headline: "Why we must lob the gob". Before long it was open season. The Sun called her a hippo, then a baboon, before launching its campaign to "vote out the pig". The Sunday Mirror rejected porcine comparisons on the ground that it was "insulting – to pigs".
 
Inside the "BB" house, Jade Goody found herself in bed with her male housemate, PJ, who ran away, shrieking. Her drunken striptease in a drinking game rigged by the male contestants ("Me kebab is showing!") forced even Channel 4 to blank the screen. "Here she is: fat-rolled, Michelin girl Jade in all her preposterous lack of glory," thundered the Daily Mirror the next day. "Naked as the day Dr Frankenstein made her." Jade's then boyfriend chipped in: "She's a sex-crazed, lying, two-timing drunken tart, and I hope I never see her again."

Jade Goody's main function, as she put it herself, was to be an "escape goat". She was the modern equivalent of Barnum and Bailey's "bearded lady" – a pressure valve for the vindictive rage of the mob and their tribunes in the Red Tops. Polls suggested that she was more unpopular even than Saddam Hussein (a boxer, said Jade). Such was the public venom it was feared that things might get dangerously out of hand. Some people actually travelled across England to the BB house, where they waved placards and greeted her emergence, spilling out of a pink dress several sizes too small, with chants of "burn the pig". Channel 4 was even reported to be considering smuggling her out of the country for her own safety.

But, no sooner had she hit rock bottom then she bounced back up again. The tabloid campaign had developed into such an orgy of hate that it inspired a retaliation in her defence. Viewers, it seemed, warmed to her malapropisms, guilelessness and obvious vulnerability.

Told by their readers that they had gone too far, journalists began backpedalling furiously. The Mirror congratulated itself on "a brilliantly conceived clandestine campaign to drum up the sympathy vote for the divine Ms Jade Goody". Not to be outdone, the Sun sought to rehabilitate the "princess of Bermondsey". Both papers started the bidding for her "story" at £100,000 – a figure that quickly escalated.

Finding they had struck gold, promoters and advertisers came flocking to her door. For the next four years it was impossible to turn on the television without seeing Jade Goody on some reality show or other. She even had her own scent, Shh!, ("Not actually a smell of me, like. It's not my BO or my feet cheese or nothing") which became a best-seller. There were also Jade Goody fitness DVDs. Along the way, she acquired, cheated on and discarded several boyfriends, gave birth to two sons (the romances, break-ups, pregnancies and births all sold to magazines on an exclusive basis), changed from blonde to brunette and shed three stone.

By 2007, when she made her second visit to the Big Brother house on Celebrity Big Brother (alongside her surgically-enhanced mother Jackie), Jade Goody had become, by her own account, "the most 25th inferlential person in the world" and a bona fide celebrity. She was said to be worth £2-4 million, was the proud owner of three "footballers' wives" style homes, a £60,000 turbo-charged Range Rover and was the "author" of a best-selling autobiography.

It did not take long for the Goody magic to work the second time around, either. "I'm out of here. I'm not ----ing waiting on some moron and her family," said Donny Tourette, a Sid Vicious-wannabe. Next to pack his bags was Ken Russell, who could not continue to live "in a society riddled with evil and hatred" (believed to be a reference to Jackiey rather than Jade).

But what should have been a triumphant return to the scene of past glories soon began to turn to disaster, when Jade Goody became embroiled in a row over an Oxo cube with the Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty. Days of tension, during which Jade called her nemesis "Shilpa Poppadom", ended in a foul-mouthed tirade from Jade in which insults such as "Shilpa ----awallah" and "go back to the slums" were bandied about. Booted out of the house, Jade Goody was branded a racist bully. In India she was burned in effigy. The television regulator Ofcom received more than 40,000 complaints from outraged members of the public.

Retribution was swift. Her scent was withdrawn from the stores; the paperback version of her autobiography was scrapped; the television offers dried up and she was dropped by her management company. "Jade, We Hate You – The Nation Turns On Thick Racist Bully!" ran one headline.

Although Jade Goody's value to Big Brother was her famously tactless "motormouth", a career nosedive was not part of the script. The show's producers, Endemol, had recorded a new chat show pilot with her as host and stood to lose money – as did many others. There followed a well-orchestrated campaign of rehabilitation, featuring a public plea for forgiveness and a stage-managed "kiss-and-make-up" session with Shilpa Shetty, followed by a "goodwill visit" to India, where she visited a children's charity, apologised (again) and made a donation.

Jade's rehabilitation was crowned by an invitation by the makers of Bigg Boss, India's equivalent of Big Brother, to take part in their show. She did so in August 2008 and, in the first episode, was seen learning to dance to Bollywood songs. But she was forced to leave abruptly after being told she had cervical cancer.

To most people, the prospect of eight weeks' confinement in the exhibitionistic surroundings of the Big Brother house would be the closest thing to hell. Jade Goody seemed to regard it as a vision of paradise. When she went in through the sliding door, she explained, "It was like no one could get me or hurt me in there... I was safe." Her life story reveals why.

Jade Koresha Lorraine Goody was born in Bermondsey on June 5 1981. Her father, of mixed race parentage, was a heroin addict and small-time pimp turned career criminal who spent most of his life behind bars, eventually dying of an overdose in the lavatory of the Kentucky Fried Chicken in Bournemouth. Her paternal grandmother, who once ran a brothel, had a crack habit. Her mother, Jackiey, the daughter of a market trader, was described in her daughter's autobiography as a petty thief and "clipper" – a woman who pretends to be a prostitute but runs off with the money instead. Jackiey threw Jade's father out of the house when Jade was 18 months old, after discovering that he had hidden guns under her cot. To add to the confusion, Jackiey herself later came out as a lesbian.

Jade rolled her first joint for her mother when she was four and she took her first puff aged five, an event celebrated by her mother in a family photograph. At about the same time Jackiey was seriously injured in a motorcycle crash and lost the use of her left arm, as a result of which Jade spent much of her childhood in the role of carer. Not that Jackiey appeared grateful. She once beat her daughter so badly she ended up in care.

Jade's schooling, not surprisingly, was chaotic. She was expelled from one school after her mother hit another mother, and from a second when her mother hit a teacher. "Most of my mates at school would arrive home to see their mum hanging out the washing or putting the dinner on," Jade recalled. "I'd come round the corner hoping not to see another police car outside the house."

It was not long before Jade began dishing out the bullying herself, once biting off a chunk of another girl's earlobe ("It wasn't a huge part of her earlobe or anything, just the tip").

As her performance on Big Brother made clear, her years of formal education had left Jade Goody with little knowledge. She thought that a ferret was a bird and abscess a green French drink; that Pistachio painted the Mona Lisa; that Sherlock Holmes invented the flush lavatory; that East Anglia ("East Angular" in Jade-speak) was abroad; and that Rio de Janeiro was "a bloke, innit?"

She eventually attended Bacon's College in Rotherhithe – one of Britain's first City Technology colleges. Following her first appearance on Big Brother, the college felt constrained to emphasise that its exam results had improved since Jade left. She then attended a training course at the Bosco Centre, an institution set up to "serve some of the most disadvantaged and disengaged young people in the community". Again association with Jade caused embarrassment as the centre pointed out that some of its alumni had gone on to university.

After leaving school, Jade eventually found employment as a dental nurse. When she applied for a place in the Big Brother house, however, she was up to her ears in debt, had recently been evicted from a flat in Rotherhithe over £3,000 of unpaid rent and was facing jail over an unpaid council tax bill.

Later, as well as her earnings from celebrity appearances, exclusive interviews, product marketing and the like, Jade Goody opened a beauty salon in Hertfordshire. She chose the name Ugly's, thinking it would appeal to the woman who thinks: "'I'm feeling ugly because I've got no make-up on, no nails and hairy legs,' then they come into our salon and we make them beautiful." The venture rapidly went bust.

Given Jade Goody's status as a media creation, it was perhaps inevitable that when stories began to circulate of a "cancer scare", some assumed it was just another tasteless publicity stunt. That did not prove to be the case. After her initial diagnosis last year, it quickly became clear that her cancer was at an advanced stage. Radical surgery failed to stem its progress and early last month she was told it was terminal.

There was time for one more twist however, as, on February 22, in a blaze of publicity which was said to have earned her close to £1 million, Jade Goody married a 21-year-old carpet fitter, Jack Tweed. In order that the couple could spend their wedding night together, he was allowed to ignore the 7pm curfew which was a condition of his early release from an 18-month prison sentence imposed for assaulting a 16-year-old boy with a golf club.

Her husband survives her with her two sons.

How did she get cunt cancer anyway? Probably coz she shagged around with dirty skanky blokes.

How did she get cunt cancer anyway? Probably coz she shagged around with dirty skanky blokes.

How did she get cunt cancer anyway? Probably coz she shagged around with dirty skanky blokes.

To be fair, hateful git that he might be, Mr Wilson isn't completely inaccurate as the vast majority of cases of cervical cancer are the result of a human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, which is sexually transmitted.

The inaccuracies are the reference to multiple partners and the lower social class.
Like chlamydia, HPV affects all sections of society regardless of whether male/females have had one or multiple sexual partners.
unfortunately the damage caused by these infections are often not diagnosed for many years, hence the current HPV vaccination and chlamydia screening campaigns .

If a strain of HPV caused  cancer of the penis or chlamydia caused male sterility would the use of condoms increase ?

Dear Jackie,

I'm so sorry to hear about Jade.

I can't stop thinking about her little boys.

All my love,

Gary Glitter

"Her death is as sad as the death of any young person but it's not the passing of a martyr or a saint or, God help us, Princess Di,