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Title: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Gazette - Iain on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:41:41
From the G&H:

Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters (http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/3963041.Swindon_boss_Byrne_blasts_armchair_supporters/)

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Swindon Town caretaker boss David Byrne has labelled the armchair supporters who have criticised him and his players as anoraks, idiots and morons following Saturday’s draw against Carlisle United.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:42:29
He's obviously been told he's not got the job then.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:43:11
Haha, what a twat.

Not getting the job then?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:43:45
He's clearly talking about Bangkok Red.

Its all your fault you cunt


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:44:24
DON'T FUCKING READ IT THEN.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pvsmark on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:45:08
He is spot on mind, but nothing will stop this happening. I don't know why he is getting so worked up about it just ignore them like the rest of us.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:45:27
Name me you Cockney prick. Stinks of a knob head who has just been told he does not have a job anymore


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:45:52
Fucking Awesome. I actually like him more again now.

DON'T FUCKING READ IT THEN.

Fuck that. I like the fact he reads stuff on forums and comes to the conclusion that the people who write this shit are morons. Top stuff Byrne.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:47:03
he wont get the job for sure now


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:47:35
Its just the people who dont go to games he thinks are morons ben.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:47:51
eugh Im starting to find him slightly replusive


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:48:19
I think Iain just likes stirring shit. Fucking journos.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:51:44
I think Iain just likes stirring shit. Fucking journos.
Well, he's just plugging the articles in his paper which we might find of interest. Seems fair enough to me. It's not like he's spamming the forum with "Chippenham youth fined £35 for dropping chip wrapper - read all the shocking details in this week's G&H"


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:51:53
What a refreshing change to read an article like that, although I don't agree with all of it.  I have to say why didn't he blast the negative foreign based "fans" duing MM's reign, dickhead from Spain on this is banging on about how MM fucked up, someone else in Australia saying the same etc. 

Fair play to Dave for speaking out but it's too late for me, also sounds like he's on his way and doesn't care who he offends.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:54:00
Even so Jan, he might wanna watch his fucking trap.

Other clubs are bound to look at that when he gets the inevitable heave-ho and think "I'm not touching that gobshite with a bargepole, he'd be a PR disaster."

Dont go burning all your bridges Byrne, ffs, it's in your own interests not too.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:54:10
Well, he's just plugging the articles in his paper which we might find of interest. Seems fair enough to me. It's not like he's spamming the forum with "Chippenham youth fined £35 for dropping chip wrapper - read all the shocking details in this week's G&H"

I'll bet you a tenner that there will be a 'internet supporters backlash' article within the next few days. He's fishing for a story.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:54:56
I've never really expressed much of an opinion about Byrne, other than to praise his record as caretaker between the Sturrock and Malpas spells.  That interview, however, is the clearest indicator you could ask for that he's not manager material.  Small town.  Not what we need.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:55:30
But he's not slating Town fans as such (no offence Bangkok Red) he's slating the negative big mouthed knob jockey's based around the world who don't go to matches and basically shit stir.

(Bangkok Red shouldn't be offended by the above as he doesn't fall into that category - his opinion is pretty balanced on STFC matters).


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 16:56:11
What a refreshing change to read an article like that, although I don't agree with all of it.  I have to say why didn't he blast the negative foreign based "fans" duing MM's reign, dickhead from Spain on this is banging on about how MM fucked up, someone else in Australia saying the same etc. 

Fair play to Dave for speaking out but it's too late for me, also sounds like he's on his way and doesn't care who he offends.

Agree it seems like a parting shot.



Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:00:44
Announcement tomorrow for new manager then? :D


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:03:06
Just read through the article. He's got a point.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:06:09
I think hes either got wind of Sonics ABBB campaign or been reading the THISIS forum.....either way I dont fucking care hes not getting the job even if he does have a bit of a point.

I think hes been told hes not getting the job and that the new man is bringing in his own whole backroom staff thus making him redundant in the process.

OR

Hes due on!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:11:16
byrne is spot on.whether he should have made those comments is debateable,but what he said is true.he's being honest so fair play to him


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:17:42
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...and if I have to come out and name these idiots then I will.”

Yeah go on  :D

I agree with his sentiments, though it seems to be the opinion of man who knows he's not staying here for very much longer.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:18:07
I guess I'm an armchair fan as I don't go to games... If I lived locally I'd be going whether we were good or bad.

But anyway, I never really criticise performances from games I don't go to because, well, I find it impossible.

As mentioned, this is not the talk of a man who'll be in employment by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:19:28
Reminds me of an email sent to all 350 odd employees, directors, etc.. by a woman at my company who also got made redundant. Her parting shot was to have a massive rant and finished off with "don't let the bastards grind you down".

Think she pressed send before remembering her husband still has to work there. Doh!



Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:19:35
I guess I'm an armchair fan as I don't go to games... If I lived locally I'd be going whether we were good or bad.

But anyway, I never really criticise performances from games I don't go to because, well, I find it impossible.

As mentioned, this is not the talk of a man who'll be in employment by the end of the year.

Ditto


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:20:13
The blokes a joke....if thats how he handles the media etc hes fucked,he does the same with the players as well,basicly saying if you dont like it your wrong!
Cant stand the fella and whether you watch a match or not whos he to say what peoples opinions should be.....the way hes going theres going to be another few thousand armchair fans getting om his nerves very soon....the quicker Fitton gets rid the better....just another joker in that pack of cards weve been dealt with lately.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:22:11
Looks as if it ties in with the thread about Ward and Holloway getting their rejection letters today/yesterday. He'd probably just sat down to read his post with a cup of tea and crumpet, found out the bad news, and then had to put up with a pesky reporter turning up at his door / ringing him up.

I hate it when people expect me to answer questions when I'm trying to eat a crumpet.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:25:53
Looks as if it ties in with the thread about Ward and Holloway getting their rejection letters today/yesterday. He'd probably just sat down to read his post with a cup of tea and crumpet, found out the bad news, and then had to put up with a pesky reporter turning up at his door / ringing him up.

I hate it when people expect me to answer questions when I'm trying to eat a crumpet.

I miss crumpets!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:30:12
players,coaches,managers etc get slated on forums.fair fucking play for having a pop back i say.i'd like to hear more reaction from players etc to the stuff on forums.
can we say what we like but they not have a chance to defend themselves and slate posts?
some of you have overeacted to his perfectly valid comments.i dread to think what the cretins on thisis will come out with.it's like when players give a bit back to the crowd after getting stick.how dare they! ::)


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:33:40
I agree with absolutely everything he said there.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:37:19
He's entirely correct in what he says, but saying it perhaps wasn't clever.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:39:02
i guess i'm an armchair fan as well now and as founder of the ABBB, i feel partially responsible.


don't let the door hit you on the way out davey boy.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DV on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:39:26
Hmmm, as you all know I've been very critical of our fans and some of what Byrne has said I agree with and some I dont agree with.

The first bit is about the long distance fans, its odd and maybe its just be but I usually find Richard Pullen and Bangkok Reds opinions to be very accurate and logical despite the fact they dont even watch the games!! some time it is easier to judge from far away.

If anything he should be aiming his comments at people who do go to games but still come out with complete bollocks.

He is however spot on when he talks about his decision to sub Kennedy. I said it before and I'll say it again, if anyone cant see the logic/reason behind taking Kennedy off they are retarded.

I think kinda lost in there a bit, Byrnes main point is there is alot of negativity around the place and he is right. Sure the players, the manager, the none manager, the results etc etc all play apart but we have alot of fans who will focus on everything negative and not give the positive a single mention.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:41:57
But Byrne's not talking about the likes of BR, or Rich as they aren't overly negative.  He's talking about the retards on thisis who after every defeat slate everything about the performance without being there.  There's quite a few on thisis, some bloke from Spain sticks in my head, during MM's reign he'd bang on and on about everything little thing (that was mostly not true).


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DV on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:44:02
I just picked those two as they are both regular posters who attend very few games.

Im sure Byrne didnt mean them personally as they arent negative, but for every one negative person who didnt go to the game there must be 20 negative people who did go to the game but still talk bollocks on the web.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:44:28
Our fans don't think about the positives at all. It's like we're still suffering from when the previous cuntish owners were here. It's almost like we're so accustomed to negativity that we can't get it out of our systems, even with fantastic people now running the club.

It's one of the reasons I enjoy away games so much more. Most of the negativity is lost.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:47:42
I guess I am an armchair supporter, to be honest it doesn't take someone with an IQ of 180 to work out that we are currently struggling for form and a team that has conceded a goal in the last 2 minutes the last 5 or 6 matches is either ridiculously unlucky or is playing with a lack of confidence. Good sides will shut out these kind of games.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 17:59:30
I don't even own an armchair, nor an anorak for that matter.

Byrne does look like a Peado though.

I reckon that JJ is right in that budgie has just been told that he wont be #2 either.

Bye bye Budgie, Gay nickname by the way.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: axs on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:01:15
I thought it was fair enough, but think he probably has more important things to focus on than reading thisis.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:03:06
If anything he should be aiming his comments at people who do go to games but still come out with complete bollocks.

Maybe, but I attend matches and have also said the team aren't playing with confidence, something Byrne doesn't agree with according to the article.

 If I want to post that, then I will. And if people disagree then fine.  He has every right to disagree - but not the right to expect us not to post our thoughts. The reason things are negative right now is that we are 1 fucking point above the relegation zone and keep conceding last minute goals and/or making huge individual fuck ups.

I absolutely agree with him, we need unity, we need to get behind the team en-mass and be positive. But this kind of interview just riles the fans further. What a plank.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:13:01
He's probably just best buddies with The Flash! ;D


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:38:01
How does he know they don't go to games?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:42:07
How does he know they don't go to games?

Good call.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: swindonbob on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:42:19
Brilliant. If he has been told he hasnt got the job, then fair play to him for coming out and saying that.
I completely agree with him....although i imagine the only people who agree with him are the people who do actually go every week!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:45:15
I go every week and still think he is a grade a twat


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 18:53:03
Maybe, but I attend matches and have also said the team aren't playing with confidence, something Byrne doesn't agree with according to the article.

 If I want to post that, then I will. And if people disagree then fine.  He has every right to disagree - but not the right to expect us not to post our thoughts. The reason things are negative right now is that we are 1 fucking point above the relegation zone and keep conceding last minute goals and/or making huge individual fuck ups.

I absolutely agree with him, we need unity, we need to get behind the team en-mass and be positive. But this kind of interview just riles the fans further. What a plank.

Seconded


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:05:19
How does he know they don't go to games?
I think the comments were aimed primarily at a few posters on the Adver forum who post one-line throwaway comments along the lines of "Byrne's shit, the players are shit" etc during games (so clearly not at the game) or who specify their locations as overseas (so not likely to have been at the game) or who state during their posts they weren't at the game. As janaage pointed out, the most vocal critics of MM were often in the above categories. I don't think it was aimed at those who, as Batch said, have been to the game, didn't like what they saw and say so but back it up with some actual reasoned argument. That's fair comment, it's the "it's all shit" negativity he's on about. At least that's how I took it.

There is a lot of unsubstantiated (as opposed to Batch-like reasoned argument) "it's all shit" negativity around especially on thisis and has been since MM was appointed. I can understand that must be really wearing for managers/players especially when it bears no relation to what actually went on during the game. BUT, as I've said in the threads about Aljofree getting into rows with the crowd, for players or members of the management staff to come out and say stuff like this in public is just daft - they're always going to be on a hiding to nothing. You might sympathise with the sentiments but part of being in football as a player, manager or whatever is about dealing with the critics and silencing them on the pitch. You're never going to win in a public slanging match with even a small section of the fans (which is probably what this is directed at).


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:05:59
How does he know they don't go to games?

I would imagine the time of the posts would give it away


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:08:31
it says quite clearly in the article who he's having a pop at.people slag off dickheads on thisis all the time on here,byrne does it and is out of order.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:24:33
Why would Byrne read forum posts anyway? Especially working out what time they were posted and from what location. It's not as if he needs to know what people think of the football; at least I hope not, dropping points and an abysmal atmosphere should be major clues!

Maybe he's just inquisitive, but I reckon he's gone on to work out what lines to feed the fans so they like him/the team more, which is fair enough, but if that's the case it's backfired hugely.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:29:01
Why would Byrne read forum posts anyway? Especially working out what time they were posted and from what location. It's not as if he needs to know what people think of the football; at least I hope not, dropping points and an abysmal atmosphere should be major clues!

Maybe he's just inquisitive, but I reckon he's gone on to work out what lines to feed the fans so they like him/the team more, which is fair enough, but if that's the case it's backfired hugely.
It might not be Byrne reading them - the players certainly do though and it maybe that they're coming into training complaining about people having a go etc and saying "You should see what they're saying about you boss". Erm, in which case that probably would be him reading them wouldn't it? I'm sure I had a point when I started ....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:31:51
Fitton gave the reason why Malpas lost his job, it is a result business.
So Bryne has three points in four or is four points in five since he took over.
Not good enough .... move on you will not get the job.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 19:34:04
Also I avoid thisis altogether, hence why I didn't know the times of postings. Reason I do that: I can't stand some of the mongoloids on there when I last used that forum. Doesn't seem like it's changed.

Best course of action is to avoid them altogether, if they are quite clearly mongs. A lot of people are pissed off because they've spent money up front to watch shite though, which I will admit is not entirely Byrne's fault, but perhaps he should be rallying the players rather than slagging the fans off. Which I think was your earlier point anyway, Paul.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 20:01:33
It is the comments section on the Adver site, and as Sie just called them mongs, clearly Byrne is merely backing you up.  I doubt they read this one much if at all, it would involve searching around and from comments I've heard 1st hand it is certainly the Adver site they read.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pumbaa on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 21:00:15
Boo. I'm annoyed that I didn't get a mention as an armchair fan. I find myself not bothering to post much on football matters recently as I haven't been to games or listened to many. Plus no one gives a shit about my opinion anyway. I think I'll sulk for a while.....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 21:22:29
I would imagine the time of the posts would give it away

They might have mobile interweb.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 21:32:54
Whether he's been told officially or not, its pretty obvious Byrne hasn't got the job. Its also obvious that the job was there for the taking if he got a decent string of results. I'd imagine he is somewhat bitter and twisted that he came pretty close to getting the job, or at least would have if they hadn't blown leads in the last few minutes of three games. If they had held on to win those three games his record would have been P5, W3, D1, L1 (against some decent teams as well) and he would most likely of been given the job this week.

So I can understand why he'd be having a rant or two at the moment. Instead of managing a Division 1 side next week he'll most likely be out of work instead. Not nice especially coming up to Christmas and all that.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 21:35:54
I was under the impression that Fitton was never going to appoint Byrne, he said something along the lines of history showing that such an appointments tend to end in failure.

If Byrne had an outstanding record during his stint, then maybe Fitton would have had to think about it.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:49:01
It is the comments section on the Adver site, and as Sie just called them mongs, clearly Byrne is merely backing you up.  I doubt they read this one much if at all, it would involve searching around and from comments I've heard 1st hand it is certainly the Adver site they read.

I'm not really fussed what he reads, but doing what he's done (whether his opinion is correct or not) is a bit silly if it's just an internet forum.

Wouldn't it be better to channel the energy into getting the players to prove a point to these armchair supporters? Or maybe the fans who are paying/have paid good money to watch boring football.

I've come to the conclusion that Byrne talks a good game, but if you listen to previous interviews they all contradict each other.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:55:16
Don't blame him tbh. I'd label most of the fans that actually go as morons.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:57:43
Don't blame him tbh. I'd label most of the fans that actually go as morons.

How superior of you.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:58:43
I think he should name names, that would be funny as fuck, go on dave, if you're reading this grass the cunts up :)


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:01:32
How superior of you.

You'd agree if you sat where I do in the Don Rogers! There's one youngish lad who spends the whole game making whale noises and booing Phil Smith every three seconds.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:07:09
harpoon the bunt then


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:07:28
You'd agree if you sat where I do in the Don Rogers! There's one youngish lad who spends the whole game making whale noises and booing Phil Smith every three seconds.

So he pays his money, you pay your money but because you don't make whale noises and boo Phil Smith every three seconds, you are a better supporter? I bet he's as pissed off with you as you are with him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, our fans are the same as any others - no better, no worse. If he wants to make whale noises and boo Phil Smith every three seconds then he is fully entitled to. If you're that annoyed then tell him to shut the fuck up and punch his lights out. I've found this a very effective strategy in the past.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:08:20
You'd agree if you sat where I do in the Don Rogers! There's one youngish lad who spends the whole game making whale noises and booing Phil Smith every three seconds.

:) That sound like fun.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:09:04
So he pays his money, you pay your money but because you don't make whale noises and boo Phil Smith every three seconds, you are a better supporter?

Yeah pretty much.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:09:54
I want to go to a game now just so I can make whale noises all game. I imagine it's quite tricky to do. I'm going to get some practice in.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:10:01
So he pays his money, you pay your money but because you don't make whale noises and boo Phil Smith every three seconds, you are a better supporter?

I think he gets it King Tails :D


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:11:20
I want to go to a game now just so I can make whale noises all game. I imagine it's quite tricky to do. I'm going to get some practice in.

I can't help but think I've missed a trick here, all this time stressing over football when I could've been making soothing whale noises.

What a fool I've been.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:12:03
Jesus christ what have I started...


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:12:58
I'm sure most of us are agreed Budgie may have a point, but I can't help but thinking he should spend less time talking bollox in the press and more time trying to wins games, not drawing them. That's why he won't be our next manager.

A manager needs thick skin, Byrne's is wafer thin. Whether he's right or wrong, he's let his guard down, and a manager can't do that. Just ask Andy King...


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:14:46
I never read the adver forum. They were a complete bunch of cunts last time I looked though so it's not surprising that he's fucked off with whatever was said.

Byrne has got it wrong having a pop though. Even if fans are malicious in what they post, don't go to games or live in outer mongolia, it's a free fucking country. He should be long enough in the tooth with all his years in football to just rise above it and get on with his job. Football has moved on since he was a player and the web is not going anywhere. If he gets wound up about what is said, don't fucking read it. Simple.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:15:45
Jesus christ what have I started...

Communal whale song at Swindon? Its got to be better than booing Phil Smith every three seconds. Or maybe if Phil Smith sang whale songs it would sooth the defence.
Sorry Tails but you are slagging the guy unfairly - he may have answer. Does he have a drum?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:17:22
Does he have a drum?

N'ah it's all airhorns these days.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:20:11
Communal whale song at Swindon? Its got to be better than booing Phil Smith every three seconds. Or maybe if Phil Smith sang whale songs it would sooth the defence.
Sorry Tails but you are slagging the guy unfairly - he may have answer. Does he have a drum?

I'm all for Phil Smith whale calls.

Nah no drum, he's just really whingy. He sits next to one of the angriest men on the planet aswell. It's like some sort of crazy angry whale combination that hate Phil Smith.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:22:50
I don't think I've been to a football match where someone near hasn't talked complete rubbish loudly. I'm convinced that most of the time they don't even agree with what they say either.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:24:41
But it doesn't make him a worse supporter - just a different kind of supporter that you disagree with.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: STFC Village on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:26:59
It sounds like he's having a whale of a time


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:29:01
I don't think I've been to a football match where someone near hasn't talked complete rubbish loudly. I'm convinced that most of the time they don't even agree with what they say either.

Of course they don't - its heat of the moment stuff - like shagging your current missus and calling her by your exs name. I ignore what people shout out. Most of it is bollox. Some bloke got pissy with me at the Leicester game for something I said but I told him that I'd had to listen to his shit all season without making a comment. Its should all be regarded like newspapers being tomorrowes chip wrappers.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:29:11
But surely spending most of the time moaning defeats the object of supporting? I've asked him before why he bothers coming and he said he doesn't know, so I told him to not bother. He seemed to think I was joking.

Meh I guess it's hard to describe unless you've experienced just how irritating he is. I miss the town end.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:30:29
But it doesn't make him a worse supporter - just a different kind of supporter that you disagree with.

I agree with you C_S.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:32:28
Well then you could revert to option B, which is to tell him to shut the fuck up or you'll punch his lights out. Fight or flight and all that. Most people will walk away if you say it with some purpose.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 00:03:33
You'd agree if you sat where I do in the Don Rogers! There's one youngish lad who spends the whole game making whale noises and booing Phil Smith every three seconds.
Are you sure it's whale noises and not just a klangers impression? Come to that how the fuck do you even make a whale noise (without being a whale)? This guy could well have a unique talent, I'm pretty sure I couldn't make a whale noise if called upon to do so. Although I could probably manage that klicky thing dolphins do at a stretch


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 00:05:41
What noise does a manatee make?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: ron dodgers on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 00:07:15
flubble


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 00:09:04
I'm not syaing I agree with having a pop in public, it serves no purpose, but the problem they get is that the Adver use it as a source for their own questions when speaking to people in the club, so it's unavoidable.  If the press keep telling you the fans think xyz and you read the same bollocks from the challenged individuals who seem to frequent both the Adver and the text in for Radio Swindon, it would lead you to think we are an unintelligent rabble.

I'm not sure what purpose the Adver comments section serves, if you look at other mundane news articles you get the same crap as on the football stories.  It makes me wonder about this town at times.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 08:30:45
I think its all part of Fittons strategy of the manager being more "at one" with the fans ... Well done Mr Byrne ;)


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 09:11:45
I'm not sure what purpose the Adver comments section serves, if you look at other mundane news articles you get the same crap as on the football stories.  It makes me wonder about this town at times.
Sadly Rob its a nationwide malaise - have a look at the comments section on the BBC or most national newspapers websites and they're no better. Or save some time, some guy has taken the most frequently used "spEak You're bRanes" phrases and put them into an automatic BBC Have your say comment generator called the Twat-O-Tron:
http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/the-twat-o-tron/


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: overthehill on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:05:20
Do you think Byrne has got Turrets?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:07:12
What like a tank?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:11:56
Do you think Byrne has got Turrets?

What like a tank?

quality  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: overthehill on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:14:09
No he's not that thick skinned.
It's more like a castle with the knobbly bits on the top.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:48:28
http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/the-twat-o-tron/

Fucking genius :-)


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:01:33
Good week thus far.

We've had two articles on the main BBC football page

01. Williams charged for assault
02. Byrne "brands some fans morons"

Good times....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Phil_S on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:13:28
Byrne is abolutely right as far as I am concerned. He didn't critisise all posters, in fact he said some were constructive. He's just calling a spade a spade & calling it how he sees it - I would never be critical of anyone for doing that. All he is saying is that some are conducting a campaign of negativity for the sake of it with no or little regard to the facts & he is right.
He may well be wrong to do it in public, in fact he probably is, but to me like many others it indicates he has nothing to lose as he won't nbe our next mgr.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:37:12
Byrne wants us to do well and that is clear but this sort of shite doesnt help.
All clubs have a minority of fans who bitch and moan....you only have to listen to Arsenal and Man U fans on 606 after games, most of them have never seen a live game ever.
Problem is, we aint doing well so the population of moaners (mostly born of frustration ,me included) grows and grows.
The reality check is that we are one point off the dreaded trap door and like it or not the moaning morons, negative posters and dickheads didnt put us there...fact....
Byrne probably had the right to make a comment but should of picked his words better. He has obvious passion but unfortunatly the results didnt go too well for him (if only games lasted 85 minutes) and it looks like he will be going.
This smacks a bit of Rikki Cxxt in the bad old days having a go at McMoans critics and that ended in tears.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: overthehill on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:40:10
I hate it when knob-ends like Byrne result to name calling.
 :D :D


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 11:43:16
Fitton came out and said a few weeks ago that the new manager must listen to and get the fans on his side this time.  If Budgie was hoping to get the job it's not exactly the best start is it.

I do agree with a lot of what he says though, especially when you take into consideration the thisis brigade.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: spacey on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:25:38
I can't believe that redo it thing that Dazzza posted didn't take off

http://redo.me.uk/8n3gz


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:29:35
I can't believe that redo it thing that Dazzza posted didn't take off

http://redo.me.uk/8n3gz

It was late in the day... good to see it back.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Luci on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:36:40
and it also gives me access to bbc sport at work which i couldnt get onto originally!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:37:55
I can't believe that redo it thing that Dazzza posted didn't take off

http://redo.me.uk/8n3gz

The Callum Kennedy/x factor thing is genius Spacey!!!  Brilliant effort!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:47:53
and it also gives me access to bbc sport at work which i couldnt get onto originally!

Google language tools is good for that also.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 13:39:01
Haha i'm going to listen out for whale man at the next game. My mate always slags smith off, maybe they should get together


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 14:32:27
Im not sure who Tails is on about and I dont hear whale noises

...but angry shouty man for the most part is a fucking tool. Very rarely supports the team, he fucked off and didnt come for two games (both of which we fucking won!!) and then he came back and we havent won since.

He is not a good fan, a decent fan and the fanbase would improve if he never came again (possibly our results to)

My favourite angry shouty man shout was against Aljofree, I think it was Huddersfield has scored and the players were walking back to take centre and he got up and shouted 'fucking hurry up Aljofree, stop wasting time' when the game was stopped!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 14:39:57
ha ha Thats ace! I wish he did send us some Ritz - there my fav!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:16:44
I've changed my mind about Budgie. I think he's a top geezer and if he wants to get in touch and invite me out for a pint. I'll happily accept.....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DV on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:18:19
....where as if he invited me out for a pint, I wouldnt go and I would moan about it on the internet.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:19:26
he would probably try and get your number then try and podge you


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:20:45
I'd ask him straight up what he expected in return, I'd then accept his pint and do it.

There's very little I won't do for a pint or five.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:25:39
what if he sais "Ben if I buy you a pint I would like to podge you up the bum after?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:28:17
The initial pint would have to be a show of goodwill before we entered into negotiations. If he kept buying me enough pints I'm sure we could reach some sort of agreement.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: overthehill on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:30:52
You're not making homophobic comments about nice Mr Byrne are you?
Expect a knock at the door if you do.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:34:23
That's not homophobic you big gay.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:35:36
I've just read some of the 151 comments on the adver site about this story.

There are some fucking idiotic twats around. Why can't people read what he said, not what they think he said?

A small percentage of people who post on the adver site ARE mongs. We all know it, a lot of us have said it. Byrne agrees with us, what's the problem?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: overthehill on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 15:37:48
Sorry, just put podge and bum together and got 5.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 16:28:13
sorry for my randomness Ben! just logged back on and forgot I wrote this - I think I must have been drunk for a minute or something!  :-[


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 18:57:21
Have you read the adver tonight Herthab?...its not just aimed at a few Mongs...read what he said...its disgusting,alot of people who comment on the forums can only wath a few matches because of expense etc...if he had been a success and the comments aimed at him were good those same mongs would be the salt of the earth,you cant generalise with comments he made....theres alot of good people on the forums who just dont rate him...me for one....call me Mong!
I understand what your saying about the idiots Herthab but if you read the Leeds and Leicester Forums the shit the managers receive on them are unreal....and they are top teams in our LGE,you wont see them respective managers slgging those forun fans off....they got more sense.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 19:03:57
“Some of the people on forums are constructive, but there is the few morons, donuts and whatever else you want to call them, who are the ones that really get under my skin.

Taken directly from the article Leefer.

Notice the word 'few' in that statement. He's not launching an attack on all internet/forum users, just the few.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 19:09:27
Its a shame Herthab cos i think Fitton wanted to keep him here..not sure he will now,hes obviously a good coach but for me in those comments has shown management isnt for him yet...but could make it one day...as you state the pressure hes under is unreal and the players should be getting the brunt,they let him down squandering points a plenty,not a few loonies on the forum.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 19:14:35
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he should've come out and said it.

But we all know he's right.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 19:28:31
I disagree,don't know why though


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 19:32:08
I disagree,don't know why though

Good point, well made.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 20:22:13
I understand what your saying about the idiots Herthab but if you read the Leeds and Leicester Forums the shit the managers receive on them are unreal....and they are top teams in our LGE,you wont see them respective managers slgging those forun fans off....they got more sense.
Well, in recent weeks Mick McCarthy, Roy Keane and Kevin Blackwell have all had a pop at "boo-boys", "vocal minorities" etc in their own fanbase. It's not like Byrne's the only one who's responded like this.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 20:30:24
Pauld...the internet forum is a medium they have to get used to,they take the plaudits when things are going well....you are part of a trust that wants fans to get nearer the players and club as a whole,most fans on the forums are top fans...why would a manager want to whine about the minority who abuse them....we are in a modern age with them earning modern day wages....if a few idiots are going to upset them then they are in the wrong job....incidently how many fans have been banned from the forums for over the top abuse....none as ime aware,its mainly frustration and not really personal.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 20:35:45
Good point, well made.
I thought so yes


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 23:31:21
Pauld...the internet forum is a medium they have to get used to,they take the plaudits when things are going well....you are part of a trust that wants fans to get nearer the players and club as a whole,most fans on the forums are top fans...why would a manager want to whine about the minority who abuse them....we are in a modern age with them earning modern day wages....if a few idiots are going to upset them then they are in the wrong job....incidently how many fans have been banned from the forums for over the top abuse....none as ime aware,its mainly frustration and not really personal.
Apart from the fact that I'm no longer on the Trust board (although still a member so yes still part of the Trust) I wouldn't disagree with any of that leefer to be fair. I was just saying that Byrne isn't the only manager who's hit out over this kind of thing recently and it's not even just confined to football, it affects all walks of life. As a culture, we're struggling to adapt to the "keyboard warrior" concept where people feel they can say things on forums they wouldn't dream of saying down the pub with their mates, never mind face to face with the person they're having a pop at. And both the keyboard warriors and the targets need to learn how to adapt to it, the one lot by thinking "I wouldn't say this in the pub because would think I was a right twat" and the managers/politicians/soap stars etc need to learn to be a lot thicker skinned. But having been on the receiving end of some of that kind of treatment myself to a MUCH lesser extent, I have a lot of sympathy.

But I have to say, Byrne seems to have struck a chord today with a lot of people both on and off forums who are saying "Fair play about time someone said something". There's a lot of people fed up with the constant, nut-grinding negativity from a very small vocal minority who don't even seem to have anything to say other than "It's all shit". Over and over and over again. Easy to say rise above it, but I've got a lot of time for the view that it needed saying. Perhaps might have been better if it hadn't been said by someone on the playing staff and perhaps not in the way it is, but maybe it did need saying if only before the new manager (my mate arriba says Dowie's nailed on by the way) comes in and has to go through the same shit Malpas and Byrne have had for the past year.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 23:35:33
Well, in recent weeks Mick McCarthy, Roy Keane and Kevin Blackwell have all had a pop at "boo-boys",.

Are they all ou odf work now. Except McCarthy and Blackwell.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 23:38:23
You won't change my mind paul. I stand by my initial comments. Haha
Apart from the fact that I'm no longer on the Trust board (although still a member so yes still part of the Trust) I wouldn't disagree with any of that leefer to be fair. I was just saying that Byrne isn't the only manager who's hit out over this kind of thing recently and it's not even just confined to football, it affects all walks of life. As a culture, we're struggling to adapt to the "keyboard warrior" concept where people feel they can say things on forums they wouldn't dream of saying down the pub with their mates, never mind face to face with the person they're having a pop at. And both the keyboard warriors and the targets need to learn how to adapt to it, the one lot by thinking "I wouldn't say this in the pub because would think I was a right twat" and the managers/politicians/soap stars etc need to learn to be a lot thicker skinned. But having been on the receiving end of some of that kind of treatment myself to a MUCH lesser extent, I have a lot of sympathy. But I have to say, Byrne seems to have struck a chord today with a lot of people both on and off forums who are saying "Fair play about time someone said something". There's a lot of people fed up with the constant, nut-grinding negativity from a very small vocal minority who don't even seem to have anything to say other than "It's all shit". Over and over and over again. Easy to say rise above it, but I've got a lot of time for the view that it needed saying. Perhaps might have been better if it hadn't been said by someone on the playing staff and perhaps not in the way it is, but maybe it did need saying if only before the new manager (my mate arriba says Dowie's nailed on by the way) comes in and has to go through the same shit Malpas and Byrne have had for the past year.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 00:15:13
You won't change my mind paul. I stand by my initial comments. Haha
Lairy twat


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 00:17:39
I won't dispute that


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 00:24:33
I won't dispute that
Oh come on rise to the bait damn you. You save it all for scaring pedestrians as the Masked Moper Avenger these days don't you?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 07:46:39
I have been rumbled


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 14:04:39
The other thing that Byrne's outburst causes is pissing people off, yes ok we all know there is a lot of mongs out there that sit behind their keyboard and moan, but chances are that it is also these people (who live far away) have supported the club for many years and for one reason or another cannot go to games, but come christmas, birthday etc they produce their list and ask for x amount of items of stfc, then after hearing that outburst think fcuk that if that is what they think of me I won't bother.

Byrne is obviously feeling the pressure of no wins and knowing his hopes of getting into the hot seat are now no existant is hitting back at those who dare criticise.

AF wants to usher in a new era of the manager interacting with fan's....Byrne's comments do not help.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 15:31:13
The other thing that Byrne's outburst causes is pissing people off, yes ok we all know there is a lot of mongs out there that sit behind their keyboard and moan, but chances are that it is also these people (who live far away) have supported the club for many years and for one reason or another cannot go to games, but come christmas, birthday etc they produce their list and ask for x amount of items of stfc, then after hearing that outburst think fcuk that if that is what they think of me I won't bother.
Try reading the thread and looking at the comments section on the Adver forum which is what Byrne's comments were aimed at - the ones he's complaining about are largely Swindon (or nearby) based but are still slagging the team/manager/hot dogs off within minutes of the game kicking off (and on one memorable occassion even before - I'm thinking of the bloke who demanded at 2.50 that Timlin be "hauled off, he's rubbish" before the game had even started). It's the "I'm not going back until McMahon/King/Malpas" crew who don't go to games not because they can't but because they don't want to and who don't just have the occasional whinge but have a go at every aspect of the club at every opportunity. We all have a moan from time to time but these guys are moaning about everything. And to be honest, I don't think the revenue streams from selling STFC related items at Christmas to half a dozen Adver keyboard warriors are massive.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 16:15:11
To be fair I don't like Byrne, at all, not my preferred style of manager BUT what he said this week is 100% correct, I really don't understand why people seem to be upset with him having a go at the kind of supporters (from a far) that we could do without.

It'd be like me posting on a Hibs site slagging the manager off week in week out, when in truth other than reading newspaper articles I haven't got a clue how they performed.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 16:17:12
Why don't you like him out of interest


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: janaage on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 16:45:17
Think I've been their before DRS, without going too in depth, it's just the way he is really, the way he conducts himself, there's some people in life you get on with, and there's some people you don't.  Just don't like the vibe the gives out at all.

I have no problem if people do like him, each to their own, it's merely a personal thing really.  Same with Williams, I really can't stand that bloke, fucking arsehole.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 16:53:27
Think I've been their before DRS, without going too in depth, it's just the way he is really, the way he conducts himself, there's some people in life you get on with, and there's some people you don't.  Just don't like the vibe the gives out at all.

I have no problem if people do like him, each to their own, it's merely a personal thing really.  Same with Williams, I really can't stand that bloke, fucking arsehole.

Agree Jan just don't think he brings anything to the club at all, those that are supportive of him just seem to overlook the fact he was involved in the Malpas reign at all, as if there was nothing he could do as number 2 when in fact he was heavily involved in a very unsuccesful management set up, he needs to go when a new manager comes in for sure.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:03:21
Catch 22 really,people know my opinions of him but tbf if you are going to slate him for being involved with malpas are you prepared to praise him for being involved with sturrock?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:17:01
 byrne has been resposible for the better players brought to the club in recent times.for that alone he deserves credit


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:21:03
Catch 22 really,people know my opinions of him but tbf if you are going to slate him for being involved with malpas are you prepared to praise him for being involved with sturrock?
 

That's a good call.

Personally I couldn't give a flying fuck about their personality as long as they do well for the club.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:29:49
Catch 22 really,people know my opinions of him but tbf if you are going to slate him for being involved with malpas are you prepared to praise him for being involved with sturrock?

That was the youths tho which I have no problem seeing Byrne demoted to again, probably more his level.  The reason we were good under Sturrock is he had the excellent coaching team in Blackley and Summerfield who actually contribute something to the coaching team with tactical knowledge, defensive coaching and fitness work.  When I look at Williams and Byrne and what they bring to the table its easy to see why Malpas failed.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:30:17
byrne has been resposible for the better players brought to the club in recent times.for that alone he deserves credit

So was Andy King but he was still a terrible manager.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:33:14
So was Andy King but he was still a terrible manager.

No he wasn't.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:34:59
Agree Jan just don't think he brings anything to the club at all, those that are supportive of him just seem to overlook the fact he was involved in the Malpas reign at all, as if there was nothing he could do as number 2 when in fact he was heavily involved in a very unsuccesful management set up, he needs to go when a new manager comes in for sure.

My point of view is so great that anybody who disagrees seems to be overlooking stuff.



Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: DV on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:35:55
That was the youths tho which I have no problem seeing Byrne demoted to again, probably more his level.  The reason we were good under Sturrock is he had the excellent coaching team in Blackley and Summerfield who actually contribute something to the coaching team with tactical knowledge, defensive coaching and fitness work.  When I look at Williams and Byrne and what they bring to the table its easy to see why Malpas failed.

What do Byrne and Williams bring to the table?

Have you ever watched them coach?

I havent, of course there is something wrong with the way our team has been playing this season but as far as I can tell you are judging two peoples work despite not having seen any of it.

Alot of people are saying Williams isnt coaching the defensive well, who said hes even coaching the defensive. Maybe Malpas did that and wanted to do it his way? Perhaps the players arent split up and coach specifics.

I keep saying I would but never have, but training would be interesting to watch just to see who really coaches what


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 17:47:05
Maybe Byrne said it just to wind up the thisis mongs.

In which case.............. good call.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 19:42:52
I very much don't think so somehow - as I've said before I'm sure it was out of frustration at not having won a game and probably being told he wasn't on the shortlist that drove him to the boiling point


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 19:49:46
This is just my opinion...Byrne is a good football man but no manager,if a few posts on a forum etc is pissing him off then surely he isnt going to handle pressure....most posts on here were very complimentary to him....just a few on other sites wasnt,BIG DEAL,top managers get shite aimed at them every week..Even Wenger was getting serious earache not long ago its part of the job.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 19:51:41
maybe he was asked what he thought of certain comments?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 19:54:29
Fair point Arriba,like i said its just my opinion....i hope the new regime keep him at the club in some capacity...but i doubt it.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 19:57:03
maybe he was asked what he thought of certain comments?

He was specifically asked what he thought about posters on the Adver comments section slating him for taking off Kennedy. So he told them. In no uncertain terms


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:04:00
But he generalised didnt he...didnt hear him say that more fans were supportive towards him on the forums.....like saying a thousand coppers were bent when only ten are....hes a hothead if you want that then fair enough,most good managers would have laughed it off.
Incidently my main concern is his tactics,played Joyce the other week and destroyed the youngsters confidence dragging him off after 30 mins and Joyce hasnt been seen since.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:06:22
he was right though leefer.
i thought alot was pointed out to you last night which changed your mind somewhat?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: pauld on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:11:16
But he generalised didnt he
Not really no - made it pretty clear he was talking only about those who don't go to games but sit and moan on t'internet during games they can't have a hope of understanding tactics etc cos they can't see them. That's pretty specific


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: The Professor on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:29:26
Byrne's right though, isn't he?  Some of the comments & reasoning behind the subbing of Kennedy defy description.  From my seat in the DR Stand, it looked to me if the lad got a kick on his calf as he cleared a ball.  He was certainly on the deck a long time before the physio came on & treated him.  He was walking awkwardly & was taken off.  Amankwaah came on, Smith swapped wings & the defence adjusted.  We concede from a doubtful free kick & suddenly Byrne's the devil incarnate, poor tactician, lousy man manager, not a clue.  In my book, Davie Byrne was absolutely spot on with his criticisms of SOME of the armchair experts. If they can give their opinions so freely they should be prepared for him to exercise his right & give an opinion too - even if forcefully expressed.  I've no idea whether Byrne is in the frame or not, whether he'd make a great manager or not, whether he has a long term future at the County ground or not - but I've always admired people who speak their mind.  Good on ya, Byrne


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:38:42
But thats the point prof...he didnt critisise SOME of the comments did he,read what he said....he went way over the top....and thankfully for me hes not in the frame.
And also if people dont go to games what gives him the right to say they cant express there opinions...even if they are shite posts.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:43:00
Surely we have established by now the following points. Byrne was right but was stupid to say it in such an abrupt lary cockney twattish way. Yeah they are idiots but you bite your tongue as a defeat saturday leaves him open now to even more abuse than before.
But thats the point prof...he didnt critisise SOME of the comments did he,read what he said....he went way over the top....and thankfully for me hes not in the frame. And also if people dont go to games what gives him the right to say they cant express there opinions...even if they are shite posts.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:50:08
Byrne's right though, isn't he?  Some of the comments & reasoning behind the subbing of Kennedy defy description.  From my seat in the DR Stand, it looked to me if the lad got a kick on his calf as he cleared a ball.  He was certainly on the deck a long time before the physio came on & treated him.  He was walking awkwardly & was taken off.  Amankwaah came on, Smith swapped wings & the defence adjusted.  We concede from a doubtful free kick & suddenly Byrne's the devil incarnate, poor tactician, lousy man manager, not a clue.  In my book, Davie Byrne was absolutely spot on with his criticisms of SOME of the armchair experts. If they can give their opinions so freely they should be prepared for him to exercise his right & give an opinion too - even if forcefully expressed.  I've no idea whether Byrne is in the frame or not, whether he'd make a great manager or not, whether he has a long term future at the County ground or not - but I've always admired people who speak their mind.  Good on ya, Byrne
:nod:

reasoned and well put together post





Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: The Professor on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:53:01
But he did surely!  The first part of the Adver article begins, DAVE Byrne has launched an astonishing attack on a section of Town supporters, blasting them as ‘morons’, ‘donuts’ and ‘anoraks’.  A section - not all but some - a section.  Indeed in another part of the article he states that, “Some of the people on forums are constructive".  In other words he found some of the articles helpful, maybe sympathetic, perhaps critical but in an analytically & informed way. The point he was damning was the reasons for subbing Kennedy given on some forums by people who apparently weren't at the game


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:54:59
But thats the point prof...he didnt critisise SOME of the comments did he,

DAVE Byrne has launched an astonishing attack on a section of Town supporters, blasting them as ‘morons’, ‘donuts’ and ‘anoraks’.



A "section" reads the same as "some" to me leefer


Perhaps I am wrong


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Tails on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:55:24
But thats the point prof...he didnt critisise SOME of the comments did he,read what he said....he went way over the top....and thankfully for me hes not in the frame.
And also if people dont go to games what gives him the right to say they cant express there opinions...even if they are shite posts.


What gives you the right to say Byrne can't express his opinion?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: leefer on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:56:07
Agreed Fred....reasoned and well put together,lets hope Budgie can learn from Sippo!
Enough said by me on the subject,lets hope he can sign of with a win...because we really need it.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 20:58:15
Agreed Fred....reasoned and well put together,lets hope Budgie can learn from Sippo!
Enough said by me on the subject,lets hope he can sign of with a win...because we really need it.

Amen mate


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:00:21
good post prof.leefer read back a few pages as you're going over old ground.tedious


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:00:36
What have I done now....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: The Professor on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:02:47
Thank you Fred - always enjoy your posts too!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: The Professor on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:04:27
And yes, totally agree about the needing 3 points at Crewe.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: spacey on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:06:06
Fred and The Professor sitting in a tree....


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: The Professor on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:10:09
I should be so lucky!


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:13:53
Fred and The Professor sitting in a tree....

Fucking hell spacey .................... Flashback


Do you remember that thing you did about me singing "cowabunga" in a tree ?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: spacey on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:17:29
Fucking hell spacey .................... Flashback


Do you remember that thing you did about me singing "cowabunga" in a tree ?

Haha! Yeah, was that the one where you were a 12 year old trapped in a man's body. You lived in a treehouse and pissed in your pyjamas? I'll try and find it.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:17:59
Aceness


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: spacey on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:28:41
I found it, but the links don't work anymore.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 21:55:28
bugger


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:42:31
Fucking hell spacey .................... Flashback

I never went away!!




Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:45:50
Fucking hell spacey .................... Flashback

I never went away!!




Eh ?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: axs on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:53:17
He's called the Flash. Quote said Flashback.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:55:21
Fucking hell spacey .................... Flashback

I never went away!!

Eh ?
I'm confused


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:58:42
knobheads



Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: axs on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:59:09


Is this your alter ego?


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: axs on Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:59:36
Booo, you edited flammableVen.


Title: Re: Swindon boss Byrne blasts armchair supporters
Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, December 18, 2008, 13:10:04
Sadly Rob its a nationwide malaise - have a look at the comments section on the BBC or most national newspapers websites and they're no better. Or save some time, some guy has taken the most frequently used "spEak You're bRanes" phrases and put them into an automatic BBC Have your say comment generator called the Twat-O-Tron:
http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/the-twat-o-tron/

This is your favourite Firefox extension I presume

http://www.chrisfinke.com/addons/youtube-comment-snob/