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Title: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:27:39
After hearing about the pretty decent performance yesterday, and the abuse the team and management got from a certain group of "supporters" at the CG yesterday, I was wondering whether it'd be worth getting to the ground a little earlier than usual on Tuesday to give the lads a decent welcome, just to show them there are people 100% behind them and we're not all anger fuelled morons.

Not sure if it'd work but I'm getting quite concerned at the fact our own players probably don't have much time for the average Swindon Town fan these days.  Which ain't helping matters.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: axs on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:47:16
Supporters at the CG yesterday? What happened?


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: axs on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:47:54
just saw the other thread, ignore me.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: pauld on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:18:05
Not a bad idea Jan but would perhaps be better targetted for the Oldham game - a lot of people are going to struggle to get to the ground early from work etc for a midweek evening game


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: DV on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:28:07
If only we had a happy clappy fans group run by Gary Stanley



Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:32:04
Ideally, you'd always want the fans to be encouraging the players in the warm up and at the start of the
game.If we could for once start at a good tempo,get Macca,if selected into the game and running at their
backline,then the crowd would be encouraging the players.

Incidentally,for the fans that think we've been giving the players a hard time,believe me it's nothing to
the criticism that fans from the London clubs,give their players.It's not right,but please keep things in
perspective,


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: michael on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:52:48
Went to watch Villa a couple of seasons ago and sat in the Holte End. As the players warmed up the home fans had a chant for each and every one of them. That is proper support. Our best player has had his name sung perhaps a handful of times in total during his time here?!


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:56:37
Went to watch Villa a couple of seasons ago and sat in the Holte End. As the players warmed up the home fans had a chant for each and every one of them. That is proper support. Our best player has had his name sung perhaps a handful of times in total during his time here?!

Thats because hes a cocky git and everyone knows he will jump ship at the first opportunity.

We are now approaching the stage where the fans get scared shitless that we are going to be relegated, and then the support will come.

Obviously the sooner we start to properly back the players, the better chance we have of staying up.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: leefer on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:23:49
No disrespect but the support we gave the players v Millwall and the last match v Huddersfield was very good....it only turned sour when the matches were beyond winning,if you have just watched your team fail miserably in 5 home matches you cant expect the fans to be chearing.....how about us chearing when we are winning for a change...or come to that drawing!
Idont believe in slagging players while they are on the pitch....ut its down to them now to beat cobblers and then Oldham and with Walsall losing at home to Hartlepool yesterday whos to say we cant get 9 points in 6 days!
In short in the main the fans have backed the team and only called for the managers head AFTER the result is beyond doubt.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:29:48
Good post leefer


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:54:25
I certainly don't support the action taken by the fans that abused the team.
But I'm certainly not going to compensate for them by turning up early to happy clap.

To be honest I'm quite pissed off with things right now and from a football point of view I am the least interested I have been for quite some time.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: DV on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:57:36
No disrespect but the support we gave the players v Millwall and the last match v Huddersfield was very good....it only turned sour when the matches were beyond winning,if you have just watched your team fail miserably in 5 home matches you cant expect the fans to be chearing.....how about us chearing when we are winning for a change...or come to that drawing!
Idont believe in slagging players while they are on the pitch....ut its down to them now to beat cobblers and then Oldham and with Walsall losing at home to Hartlepool yesterday whos to say we cant get 9 points in 6 days!
In short in the main the fans have backed the team and only called for the managers head AFTER the result is beyond doubt.

I wouldnt say the support against Millwall was good at all.

Everything else said is pretty spot on though.

I was very harsh and critical of our support after Millwall but to their credit they surprised me against Huddersfield and made me eat humble pie. The Support was good enough last game and I hope the support continues in that way


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:00:36
It's not necessarily about happy clapping, it could be just having a word (of encouragement) with some of the players as they arrive, take your point about the Oldham game being better Paul.

Just hate the thought of some of our players thinking the fans who had a go at them yesterday are our typical fans.  If I was a player getting abuse week in week out I think in the end I wouldn't give a shit about the fans or the club.  Let's be honest if we go down half the first team would look to go elsewhere.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:41:38
The support has been poor and so have the performances. But if the fact over 5000 people bought a season ticket this season isn't proof of their support then the players are fucking dumb.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: yeo on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:50:09
I dont see whats so wrong with abusing the players if im honest.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:56:55
Following them though is a bit ott. Bet they thought they were going to get a kicking


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, October 19, 2008, 16:08:56
i ve followed diamandis car before. Is that the same? :)


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 20, 2008, 07:15:16
exactly the same you yob


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:05:00
I dont see whats so wrong with abusing the players if im honest.

This is a Rubbish analogy, but if the people you worked with gave you constant crticism, slagging you and your management off, wouldn't you after a while think, fuck this, I could always earn a living elsewhere.  Surely it's the same with footballers, lets be honest none of our current squad are Swindon Town supporters (Pook the exception maybe) so if the fans just create this negative atmosphere and spend their time verbally abusing players and managers the players after a while will start losing the will to play for the club, which increases the chances of us being relegated.  That's the way I see it anyway.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: dell boy on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:07:47
This is a Rubbish analogy, but if the people you worked with gave you constant crticism, slagging you and your management off, wouldn't you after a while think, fuck this, I could always earn a living elsewhere.  Surely it's the same with footballers, lets be honest none of our current squad are Swindon Town supporters (Pook the exception maybe) so if the fans just create this negative atmosphere and spend their time verbally abusing players and managers the players after a while will start losing the will to play for the club, which increases the chances of us being relegated.  That's the way I see it anyway.

Do you not think that most of the boos at half time and at full time are aimed at Malpas and not the team?
Players are still being applauded if they bother to come over and clap the crowd.
I agree with you about the abuse in the car park, dont think that is acceptable for any employee.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:12:48
I dunno Dell, I think it probably affects different players in different ways.  Like Ifil may make a mistake that leads to a goal, we lose the crowd get on Malpas' back, but Ifil probably knows if he didn't make the mistake we might not have lost.  Just an example not saying this happened.

I have heard from a STFC employee that there is a lot of gossip going round the club about the players not enjoying their football at the CG, they prefer to play away, as it were, and you can see it by the way they play.

On a side note - the fact that we have very little "personalised" songs about our players is a joke, we don't do enough to get behind the lads, fuck MM we don't need to support the bloke if you don't want to, but McNamee and such like should be given a proper welcome each match, but they get nothing.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: yeo on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:16:12
Its not like it was during the match though is it and I dont buy that a coach full of profesional sportman are going to be scared of a mini bus of nob heads.Its easy for these players and staff to remove themselves from criticism and think it doesnt really matter,it does and now they know how much.
















Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:44:14
This is a Rubbish analogy, but if the people you worked with gave you constant crticism, slagging you and your management off, wouldn't you after a while think, fuck this, I could always earn a living elsewhere. 

Just playing Devils Advocate like but its not the people they work with.

Its the paying customers that are dishing it out, although I never condone it, it does throw a completely different slant on your argument


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Monday, October 20, 2008, 08:51:53
It doesn't Fred, I've worked in a job before where all I did, day after day was get moaned at by my customers, and in the end it wears you down and I began to think what's the point, I'm trying my best for these people but all they do is moan moan moan.  So I went and got myself a different role and haven't looked back. 


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, October 20, 2008, 09:02:42
The players could have done what Cantona did when ManUre played down here. When some Town fans stayed behind to get Cantona as he was getting on the coach he chased them until Robson rugby tacked him.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, October 20, 2008, 09:04:05
It doesn't Fred, I've worked in a job before where all I did, day after day was get moaned at by my customers, and in the end it wears you down and I began to think what's the point, I'm trying my best for these people but all they do is moan moan moan.  So I went and got myself a different role and haven't looked back. 
Well to be honest I don't have a problem if the majority of players did what you did. I would happilly see most of them go. Its funny how Cox, Peacock  and J Smith don't get booed.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, October 20, 2008, 09:07:15
Thats Bollocks though and it is a rubbish analogy, Football is different from any job in the world you cant compare jobs that we do and what they do at all.

If the crowd are booing and singing we want malpas out then surely the players know it is not aimed at them. I have not heard one player booed individually i have heard growns when a pass goes astray and if they cant handle that then they should fuck off.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Monday, October 20, 2008, 09:51:36
I said it was a rubbish analogy you tosser!!!


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: juddie on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:00:23
I remember when I started going the players would get a huge cheer when their names were read out before kick-off. I know our players these days aren't the heroes we used to know and love, but even so... I agree, we should sing more player-specific songs...


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: ghanimah on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:00:49
This is a Rubbish analogy, but if the people you worked with gave you constant crticism, slagging you and your management off, wouldn't you after a while think, fuck this, I could always earn a living elsewhere. 

It's slightly different with football, as with my job if I do something wrong then I get criticism as you say but if I do something right I don't get the whole office singing and chanting my name and asking for autographs.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:01:47
Booooo!


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:02:41
It's slightly different with football, as with my job if I do something wrong then I get criticism as you say but if I do something right I don't get the whole office singing and chanting my name and asking for autographs.

Nor paid the same


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:03:44
It's slightly different with football, as with my job if I do something wrong then I get criticism as you say but if I do something right I don't get the whole office singing and chanting my name and asking for autographs.
Oh I do. Maybe you're just not very popular at work? :)


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, October 20, 2008, 10:26:56
I said it was a rubbish analogy you tosser!!!
muggy caaaaant


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: DV on Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:52:05
I remember when I started going the players would get a huge cheer when their names were read out before kick-off. I know our players these days aren't the heroes we used to know and love, but even so... I agree, we should sing more player-specific songs...

Its because you cant even hear the teams being read out in the Don!

Was watching MOTD the other night and the Arsenal guy just reads out the players number and first name and they crowd finished it off. Sounded cool, wouldnt work at the CG tohught.

Number 1 - Peter - BOOOOOOO!


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:53:23
thats so cheesey and crap its untrue


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: janaage on Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:59:45
I hate that read out the first name and the crowd chant the surname, Germans started that didn't they?  Embarrassing.

I wanna sing "Na na na na na na na na na na na Anthony McNamee, McNamee, Anthony McNamee!!!" to the toone "Give it up", think someone else said this before btw.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: Arriba on Monday, October 20, 2008, 13:03:44
the arsenal thing sounds good.but yes it wouldn't work here at the moment.
less embarrasing than clapping a shit team as they walk to the ground though.maybe we should roll out a red carpet,line up alongside it, and bow to the players as they walk by?


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: DV on Monday, October 20, 2008, 13:05:39
nah, lets boo and throw rotton fruit at them.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: axs on Monday, October 20, 2008, 16:34:54
I hate that read out the first name and the crowd chant the surname, Germans started that didn't they?  Embarrassing.

I wanna sing "Na na na na na na na na na na na Anthony McNamee, McNamee, Anthony McNamee!!!" to the toone "Give it up", think someone else said this before btw.

thats sung nearly every away match when he's played.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 20, 2008, 16:47:51
the arsenal thing sounds good.but yes it wouldn't work here at the moment.
less embarrasing than clapping a shit team as they walk to the ground though.maybe we should roll out a red carpet,line up alongside it, and bow to the players as they walk by?
You forgot the rose petals arriba - how can they feel truly loved if we don't throw rose petals in their path as they shimmy onto the pitch?


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: michael on Monday, October 20, 2008, 16:55:15
I always cheer every player's name when the team is announced, and I boo the away team.

If I could get my hands on some face paints then I would get my face done as well 8)


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: glos_robin on Monday, October 20, 2008, 17:35:13
After hearing about the pretty decent performance yesterday, and the abuse the team and management got from a certain group of "supporters" at the CG yesterday, I was wondering whether it'd be worth getting to the ground a little earlier than usual on Tuesday to give the lads a decent welcome, just to show them there are people 100% behind them and we're not all anger fuelled morons.

Not sure if it'd work but I'm getting quite concerned at the fact our own players probably don't have much time for the average Swindon Town fan these days.  Which ain't helping matters.

If we did that we'd end up losing and Malpas and the players would probably come up with the excuse that they felt under pressure to repay the supporters for showing so much support.

Blaming the support or lack of is absolute bollocks IMO and is just being used by many including some supporters as an excuse. You only have to look at reports over the last few months (the latest today about Wolves fans booing Keogh) to realise that it happens at all the other 92 league clubs. Our support is no better or worst it's just that we've had nothing to shout and sing about and how can you support a manager that both in your head and heart you zero belief in. It is impossible to back something that you think is wrong as your just lying to yourself.

The support or lack of from our fans has little to nothing to do with anything really it's just an easy excuse.


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: donkey on Monday, October 20, 2008, 17:40:26
I hate that read out the first name and the crowd chant the surname, Germans started that didn't they?  Embarrassing.

Yeah, they do...it's far too regimented.  It's like Wembley playing We Are the Champions when a team wins.  I would want to sing Swindon specific songs should we win at Wembley. (Although, I'd like the chance to be pissed off at some twat playing We are the champions to be honest).


Title: Re: Pre match Swindon v Northampton
Post by: leefer on Monday, October 20, 2008, 17:43:30
And shouting cocks when your top scorer is announced isnt up my street.