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Cox - Bloody well taken hat trick - brilliant

Smith, althought I like him thats two through his hands, maybe needs dropping

One of his saves in the first half was sublime.... However, how many chances does he get?

That Ritchie Jones didn't look that good either.

So 2 howlers then? Does anything ever change? I actually feel a bit sorry for Malpas. He was obviiusly getting things right but as a manager what can you do when your team blows such a good lead in front of your own eyes?

He is a keeper who has let two shots straight through his hands.

You will not find a single post where I have given the team stick this season.  Im saying get Brez back in NOW thats all

Im in two minds. Brez wasnt good enough and got dropped. Smith hasnt been good enough either.

Is chopping and changing keepers in the long term worse than sticking with one?

Goal keepers I find get better the more they play. Carlo Cudicini was one of the best keepers in the Premiership when he was Chelsea's first choice. Cech came in and Cudicini hasnt looked the same keeper the odd game hes played.

Part of me thinks that might be happening to our keepers if we keep swapping them after every 4 games.

Smith has made as many, if not more mistakes than Brez so only fair that Smith is now dropped but I really do think Malpas needs to pick a number 1 and stick with him.

brez before malpas was the better keeper,both had injury issues but being a keeper you have to have confidence and with the back four never settled it makes it much harder.
when wise brought in  brez he used to catch crosses off strikers heads then half way through last season when he came back byrne was constantly telling him to punch the crosses away,catching the ball was how brez broke his arm as he fell awkwardly maybe they,re scared it might happen again.No clean sheets this season= the coaching staff haven,t got a clue.

Agree Mr FItton needs to dig deep so malpas can bring some better coaches in.

What about the Goal at Milton Keynes.  That was Smiths fault as well.

It's only the fact that we got a 90th min Penalty that saved him.

As for making a great save, well guess what he's a goalkeeper and that's his job.

And just how many howlers did it take for Brezovan to get dropped, Smith's on three and counting.

Brez had a couple of shaky performances, including that goal against Col U.

brez made 1 howler, the 3rd against colchester

 Mr Fitton has dug deep, to give us a club to support....he's already said his group wont throw money at this project...our fans need to realise, the downside of having decent owners, is that they wont go out and get a Dennis Wise style coaching set up, or even a Sturrock set up....namely employing people you can't afford to pay.

  I'm sure AF, is keen on getting in the egg chasers as that will generate a bit of revenue, and a run in the JPT would help.  Hereford now becomes a massive game.

Agreed....Leeds in the final would generate some much needed dough!
Ime just happy that Cox is staying fit,god knows ware we would be without him this season,Paynter works hard but just dosnt score enough...we need a leader on the pitch but alas a good one is going to cost money.

....and the header that went straight through his hands at Cheltenham.

dunno if the cheltenham one goes down as a howler by Brez, a free header from 5 yards out

My opinion of it is.

Casal should have cut the cross out, Morrison shouldnt have let him have a free header ever after all that it did appear that the header was straight at Brez just a little bit above him.

Might just have been the angle as I was in the side stands but it did look like it went right between his arms.

I'd expect a keeper to save that

but as u say cross should never have come in and nor should myrie-williams have had a free header, anyway the point is Smith can have no qualms about being dropped for the foreseable future

here here

I can understand him not splashing out on player's but In the end reg it could cost us our league one status,would it not be more sensible to bring better coaches in rather than lose money by being relegated, because that's where i think we are heading at this moment in time.Im not one of these that lives in another world and expects big thing's but this dont look good the way thing's are going.

Im also not doom and gloom merchant but this trend of leaking a lot of goals is worrying,It's not just the odd goal either, it tends to be two or three a time.

THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW MANY GOALS CONCEEDED SO FAR BY US HAVE BEEN THROUGH GOOD ATTACKING PLAY AND NOT BY DEFENDERS SWITCHING OFF, MAKING BASIC ERRORS,BEING OUT OF POSITION OR TO CAP IT OFF GOALIES FORGETTING THEY HAVE HANDS?.ANSER ON A POSTCARD

Another question that needs answering is, is your caps lock stuck on?

AND WHO GETS THE BLAME FOR THAT THE PLAYERS OR THE MANAGER? ANSWERS ON A POSTCARD

 After 9 games it is way to early to early to think in terms of relegation, although I'd say the signs are we're going to be more interested in that end of the table than any higher.

 Nevertheless to sack management staff, and employ all new staff, will require a considerable outlay of money....lets put half a mill on it.

MY CAPS LOCK IS NOT stuck on i,m jusy SHit oN the comPUTOR.

So what's your answer to this Reg we cant keep going on like this,do you think we can come out of the doldrums,I would like to think we could but a certain section of our fan's are going to make that very difficult.

 There's soon to be a set of standards that posters on the TEF are to be asked to adhere to....perhaps you should go away and practise for the forthcoming competency exam.

 I feel we're very lucky to be competing at as a high a level as what we are.
 
  We could very easily be in the position of a Bormuff, Rotherham or Luton, or even O*frod.

  It will take a while to recover from the financial incompetence of previous regimes, too many just assume that Fitton will just sprinkle $ and we'll be on our way.  It will be a slow process, small gains and a bumpy ride, stability though is the key.

I know everyone is going on about brez and smith in goal and yeah they have both made howlers but something has got to change between the sticks.

If Swindon wanted to they have a 3rd option and that is let the youth keeper have a game.

Mark Scott number 36, he cant play any worst than what P.smith has been of late.

If not i say bring back brez, we cant keep giving away goals like it.

Not one clean sheet yet this season, not good enough.

Mark Scott start?? u having a laugh?? hes no where near the standard of Jon Stewart let alone Brezovan and Smith

Like i said he cant be any worst that what smith has been of late.

he can

Then what do you suggest then, keep playing p.smith dont think so.

Brez or scott. thats all there is.

Adie Williams in goal.

i suggest Brezovan should never have been dropped, due to Malpas' chopping and changing of the keepers both will be short on confidence as Smith has showed, Malpas dropped both of them last season and the keepers were both shot to fuck, yet he didnt learn and done exactly the same this season

WHAT THAT MAN SAID

 If you've two keepers of similar competence, it's basic management, that if one is out of form, then you play the other. Hoddle, used to do it, with Digby and Hammond, although clearly Digby was much better than Hammond.
 
 From what we've seen of Phil Smith over a couple of seasons the one thing you'd think he wouldn't do, was drop free kicks into the goal. I'd imagine Brez will start on Tuesday.

Have a week off.

Did you actually think at all before posting that? Smith has to be dropped after last night coming so close on the Leeds game and other lesser howlers, but I've seen abstract paintings with more perspective. Plus if you really want Brez to urgently start instructing his agent to find him another club come January, playing an untried youth keeper in front of him is pretty much exactly the right way to do it.

What football qualification have you got then? Arsenal play their youths so where's the harm? Did you think before posting-nope don't think so

It doesn't really matter who we play as long as someone takes a drum.

So Pauld doesnt think, but you compare our youths to Arsenal?!?

how many times have Arsenal played Wojciech Szczesny ahead of Almunia & Fabianski?? never

I'm sure arsenal youths are in no way better than our youths, what with them being a Premiership club with vastly more resources. Oh wait, yes they are.

Batch, PhD in the blindingly obvious.

we get our youths when they get released from Southampton & Plymouth etc, Arsenal take the best 16 year olds from the best teams in the world, how can u compare the 2?

Easily

Chris Allen > Cesc Fabregas

A couple of weeks ago brez had a shoulder injury which meant that Mark Scott was on the bench with Phil Smith between the sticks

So if Phil Smith had of been taken out in that game guess who'd of gone in goal then.....yes you've got it now.......Mark Scott.

So now then.........where's the harm in him starting? Can always take him off at half time if he's that rubbbish.

Also i was not trying to compare our youths to that of Arsenals-merely saying perhaps they should be given a chance to SHINE!

You lot aint got nothing better to do than sit on here moaning all day! Have a good afternoon wont you!

take a youth keeper off at half time would fucking ruin the poor kid, hes not ready

Play him in the 2nd half then if smith has had a shit first half.  :doh:

like i said in the end of the last post, hes not ready

Scotty would not even be in the class of smith let alone brez,also you put him in and someone scores eight past him his confidence will be shattered in one go,if i was you lardy i would take notice of jpc and DV both have better knowledge of the youth's than you or me.

So what would've happemed if Smith had got injured in this game then??????

I think in a dire situation like that Lardy he would have come off the pitch, but when you have option a and b available you don't generally start with the third choice, especially when he's barely experienced reserve footie.

Then we would have had to play him, not because he is good enough or because he was ready because hes the next goal keeper in line.

He is third choice, doesnt mean hes good enough or ready just means after Brez and Smith hes all we've got.

Keeper is the worst position to blood a youngster because if hes shit he'll let the whole team down and probably never recover.

Im sure we remember the game Heaton got sent off and Bulman came in....!

This is nearly as good as your "drums the key to league success" stuff the other day. You're priceless. I take it you're not going to answer my point about the effect it would have on Brez playing the youth keeper in preference to him?

Yeah I know, i say bring back Brez i was just saying that there is a 3rd option should we need it! :smack:

No you didn't, you said the youth keeper should get a game because he can't do any worse than Smith. Which implies ahead of Brez and is palpably not true. It's like saying my 6-year old should get a game because he can't do any worse than Smith, it's just stupid knee-jerk overreaction.

Lardy on a wind up or what??

I really don't think he is/was on a wind up.

No not on a wind up just stating my view like the rest of you

do u honestly think it will make things better by throwing in a 17 year old kid with no experience what so ever into a team that has fuck all confidence?

you're right the team has got f*ck all confidence. It really is 25% football 80% balls on here aint it! Bring back brez. Bloody arkells stand moaners!

mate i dont think i have seen 1 post since last night saying Smith deserves to stay in the team, everyone says bring back Brez, except u who wants Mark Scott to play, so who's the one talking bollocks??

Its a bit of a nonsense arguement you have going on here Lardy if you dont mind me saying.

I like your style.

 No 80% bollocks.  Unfortunately we seem to be getting more than 25% football at the moment, much of which is ill considered drivel...not the same as bollocks.

I think this one's been kind of done to death now hasn't it? We all think Brez should start next game, and we have a third choice keeper who would be available should either of the first choice two be injured.

we would get a keeper on loan before Scotty would start

Yeah, sorry I meant available as sub. Which is what he did when Brez was injured and who knows maybe he'll get a chance to come on as sub keeper sometime this season and wow us all.

i know that he wont wow us :)

:wotjump:
Here here! I agree with you. At last someone who has grasped what i was saying.

That's not what you were saying though!

So your argument/point was if our first 2 keepers were injured, we'd select our third choice keeper to play.  That is inspired thinking.

Ok, so clearly what has happened here is that lardy didn't initially express the point he was trying to make as well as he might have done. It happens, we've all done it. Now he's made himself clearer, can we stop jumping on the fella?

Nah, stop being such a spoil sport Paul.  ;-)

yeah i had enough of people jumping on me last night :(

Albeit not quite in the way (or the gender) you'd hoped for when you set out ;-)

you probably deserved it :)

smith has not inspired me with confidence at all this season, errors aside he's just not looked the same as he did in the past...

tell me about it! i could have just gone and had off with the lass, instead i get no action and beat up for it!!

Unattractive and vengeful on rejection, it's never a good combination. You're clearly just unlucky in being a martyr to your own sex appeal

I think we should give Peacock a go in goal. But only if our first, second, third and potential loan keepers are all injured.

He can't be worse than Phil Smith can he?

Adie williams has never conceded a league goal. Why is he not in goal.
MALPAS OUT

Neither has Brez. Granville out.

I just watched the goals for the first time since last night.

The free kick looked soft but I didn't realise how bad it was. Basic errors.

On the plus side I enjoyed the 3 goals by Cox... the 3rd especially, that clip doesn't highlight how well he passed the 2 defenders. He is the difference.

still have not seen any of it yet!!

http://www.football.virginmedia.com/page/Football/League1/VideoIndex/0,,12555,00.html?mvnAssetId=3131809

Ho many legue goals has cox got

Seven goals in nine games.

Cheers rich

The Smith and Brez goalkeeping partnership is bound to be split up in January anyway. Regardless of their shit current form and confidence, Fitton will probably off-load one of them during the transfer window with Brez being the more likely as he's known by the likes of Wise and Poyet etc in the upper reaches of football. Some cunt will have an eye on him already, so it's just a matter of how good a deal it is for us.

That would leave us with the more traditional situation of having a decent, settled senior keeper (Smith) and an apprentice or a wannabe (Scott) relatively happy to stay available for duty in the background as he learns his trade. That system seems to work well at every other club and suited us for fucking centuries before Brez and Smith arrived, so I won't be complaining when it happens.

The cost savings would be significant too. It can't be cheap having two senior keepers on the pay roll.

hahahahahahahahahaha just seen the goals. There keeper fucked up for cox's second tbf, but smiths was woefull. kill him now

For some reason virgin media just won't work for me!

it does tend to be a bit shit for most people

I have just seen the goals online. Gutted. I'm really sorry for the people that went. That looks diabolical.

So what's the 'trick' then? I get the EA Sports advert but the goals never load. Do you have to a a virgin IP address or something?

Batch try internet explorer.

Never worked for me until today, looks like somethings changed, try it again. As for the goals, really poor defending for all 3 of theirs. Ifil and Easton should have done better for the 1st and 3rd. Brez has to come back also.

Tried, failed! Hopefully they'll show them on "The Championship" later.

Fucks sake, I had it working last week and now it wont again.

Fucking hate that EA sports advert cunt.

Actually on the home page it does say no videos available, try again later.

I presume you tried firefox too,or have you got any kind of firewall ad blocker etc that could be stopping it.

Yes i do have virgin media IP.

Works fine for me :)

Although I did turn it off after Cox's third

Virgin don't put the goals online till monday.

Yes, but the Swindon/Hartlepool goals are up.

Haha, oh yeah, of course. I should've read the thread. In which case, anyone struggling should try Internet Explorer (as was said above). Usually works for me.

I am slightly disturbed by what i have just seen. Has anyone thought that the result may have been a fix?

Straight after Cox scores his hat-trick, he turns to the crowd and does this:

[url width=394 height=293]http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc342/weaselstfc/Coxpredicts.jpg[/url]

Now, that looks like 3-3 to me...

Ha ha good one weasal.  Defo sign to the far east betting syndicates.

Or maybe at the time he was gunning for two hat tricks?....in fact straight after his third he had a chance that smacked the goalie straight in the face...if only eh.

cox took his goals bloody well

I think hartlepool got lucky with their 3rd,looks to me he was trying to knock it back over to the back post,it's like a side foot lob over to the back post but it kinda of went in.

What a howler from smith tho. 

who in their right mind would pay money for Brez right now?

Tried it all. Could be firewall quirk but it's strange the EA sports ad runs fine first, though that is probably from a different server.

Anyway saw the goals on the championship. Nothing to add. great hatrick, howler from Smith. Time to moveon to tomorrow/

look what happened to Port Vale last season, the poor fucker let in 6!

Our hat-trick was far superior to theirs!

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.2457546.0.lee_takes_the_heat_off_phil_for_hartlepool_howler.php

Looked like Phil Smith to me!

I read that earlier. Fair play to Peacock, it's never his fault but at least he's got the bollocks to come out in the press and try and take some heat off Phil Smith. This is the kind of thing Aljofree should be doing as captain.