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Title: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:23:41 1.9 MILL.
Thanks Coxy and good luck... Without you we were down....no question. :cry: Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:26:18 all the best coxy. will be keeping an eye on your progress with the inlaws being avid baggies fans
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:26:35 Good luck to him and thanks for what he did for us.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:27:11 Not enough money. I wanted at least 2million (and its only £1.5 guaranteed).
Still it beats our record transfer fee received i think. Good luck Coxy Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:28:06 Cheers Coxy. You single handedly kept us up last year. You will do well at West Brom! Good to see Wilson saying he will boost our striking options although it may not be cheap so looks like we are getting set to table a substancial sub to bring in a new striker!
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:28:33 cheers coxy, all the best in the future, break a leg and all taht :-)
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:28:41 £400k is performance related add ons and seeing his performances last year if he can continue that (which i'm sure he can) that extra is also guaranteed
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: herthab on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:33:02 Thank fuck he's gone.
I never rated him.......... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:33:40 Can we sign a replacement now please?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:34:32 Good luck Coxy, is the nailed on £1.5m include the sell on clause we had with Reading, so does that mean we will not actually get £1.5m ?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:35:12 Lets not dwell on it we all knew he was going.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: alanmayes on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:35:43 WBA's OS states that Coxy has signed a 2yr deal with a further 2yr option.
A fee of 1.5 million with a further 400,000 for performance related add-ons. Thanks for all of your efforts at STFC Coxy,good luck for the future. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:36:29 An inevitability realised. Shame and all that but he was too good to stay in league 1. Slightly disappointed by £1.5m minus Reading's cut, but its a good profit.
Good luck to him, my lad said he hopes he helps take West Brom back up to the Prem. And so do I. Depending on how much £ Wilson gets back we could build a better team even through our best player leaving. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:36:32 Good luck Coxy, is the nailed on £1.5m include the sell on clause we had with Reading, so does that mean we will not actually get £1.5m ? good point, so are we infact only going to get around £875,000? (thats around 60% right, just off the cuff figure in my head) Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:43:42 Thanks for all of your efforts at STFC Coxy,good luck for the future. What am said ^Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:12:53 West Brom have got a bargain there.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:15:49 i think it's a fair price.
i'm not convinced he'll cut it in the championship. i hope he does though Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:16:21 Sorry to go a bit Bart on you...
...but...£1.5million plus 400k add ons for a player of Cox's talent is fucking stupid. We've been done. We should be getting more than that even after Readings cut. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:17:58 Im so over Coxy already
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Rustle on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:19:12 All the best to the lad,I hope he does really well for them and then maybe he may get his dream move to liverpool one day.
Nothing but respect for the guy. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:24:30 Sorry to go a bit Bart on you... ...but...£1.5million plus 400k add ons for a player of Cox's talent is fucking stupid. We've been done. We should be getting more than that even after Readings cut. I can see your point sort of BUT... He was never going to sign a new contract here, had 2 good seasons, we would have got a lot less in January I think as he had 6 months left on his contract. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:27:02 Sorry to go a bit Bart on you... ...but...£1.5million plus 400k add ons for a player of Cox's talent is fucking stupid. We've been done. We should be getting more than that even after Readings cut. We dont know what readings cut is though, and i'm wondering whether they have done a deal that means this is what we get and a seperate bit has gone to Reading? Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:27:06 Maybe - doesnt help the deal has been reported as being between £2m and £2.5m all week.
Now all of a sudden its only £1.5m BEFORE Readings cut Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:30:18 Maybe - doesnt help the deal has been reported as being between £2m and £2.5m all week. Erm, except you don't know that do you? Sutton's suggestion would make perfect sense in reconciling the two sets of figuresNow all of a sudden its only £1.5m BEFORE Readings cut Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:31:23 2.5 was the figure fitton wanted.that is always gonna drop as it's the start point in a negotiation.
considering you can pick up proven players for fuck all,1.9 mill is good business Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:41:34 We dont know what readings cut is though, and i'm wondering whether they have done a deal that means this is what we get and a seperate bit has gone to Reading? Its always been quoted as 40% That would make better reading if it didnt include Readings 40% Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:44:44 I've read 40% quite a few times admittedly. Never officially though.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 13:45:21 Maybe - doesnt help the deal has been reported as being between £2m and £2.5m all week. Now all of a sudden its only £1.5m BEFORE Readings cut If it was 2m inclusive of performance related bonuses you would be happy... its only a £100,000 difference... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: glos_robin on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:02:44 Always going to happen and no great suprise hopefully we can replace him somehow even if it means a goalscoring midfielder and new striker to chip in.
Would be nice to get some clarity on the sell on clause though as would say I'd feel we've been done abit if after Readings cut and the the money we paid for him originally we only made a £600,000/£700,000 profit on him. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:26:16 I'd have liked us to get £2.5m cash for him, but we've done pretty well considering.
Clubs weren't queuing up to buy him, those that were previously interested all refused to pay what we wanted except for West Brom. Celtic offered about £1m for him, Huddersfield was about £600k (I think), Leicester gave the impression they thought £1m was too much and so on - compared to those offers we got an excellent deal. With a year left on his contract we were running the risk of having to sell him for a lot less in January, or getting even less next summer. The 40% sell on clause with Reading isn't good, but I've always thought we got him on the cheap from Reading solely due to that sell on clause. I'm not sure Fitton would have taken the risk at say £500k or more without a sell on clause. The only annoying thing is that Fitton won't come out with a clear statement about how much we got. Why do clubs insist on keeping this information a secret, with a number of unclear and different deals being quoted by the press. It just pisses fans off. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:31:03 On that last point, thats mainly because, if we are in for cash bids and clubs know how much we have spare they'll hike the price, keep em guessing, better for the club.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:33:16 The only annoying thing is that Fitton won't come out with a clear statement about how much we got. Why do clubs insist on keeping this information a secret, with a number of unclear and different deals being quoted by the press. It just pisses fans off. Why on earth should he come out with a statement, and why should this information be in the public domain? It's commercially sensitive, and guaranteed to be used by the clubs from whom we will be looking to buy replacements. Fans may well be pissed off, but so be it. If they believe they have a right to know this information, they're mistaken. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:34:47 Spot on Ardiles.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:38:53 As a PS, I do agree with all the rest of Jonny's post.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:41:33 Why do clubs insist on keeping this information a secret, with a number of unclear and different deals being quoted by the press. It just pisses fans off. Because then this happens... Sorry to go a bit Bart on you... ...but...£1.5million plus 400k add ons for a player of Cox's talent is fucking stupid. We've been done. We should be getting more than that even after Readings cut. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:49:16 Why on earth should he come out with a statement, and why should this information be in the public domain? It's commercially sensitive, and guaranteed to be used by the clubs from whom we will be looking to buy replacements. Fans may well be pissed off, but so be it. If they believe they have a right to know this information, they're mistaken. Firstly, its just plain ridiculous to suggest that clubs will try to screw us for more money - we're not Chelsea and we're talking about loose change in comparison. Plus whatever we sold him for doesn't have any real effect on how much we've got to spend as Fitton was already putting his hand in his pocket. Secondly, you might want to do the sums based on the deal that has been announced. Its all over the media as being £1.5m plus another £0.4m in add ons so at present other clubs will think we've got £1.5m in cash. In reality we get under £1m in cash - for us to have £1.5m in cash from the deal we'd have needed to sell him for £2.35m once the sell on clause is taken in to account. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 14:57:47 Surely the point is we got as much for cox as we could. We couldn't wait as his value would decrease the closer to contract expiry we got. And keeping him probably wasn't an option as i think from the press snippets i have seen and heard he wanted out if a good offer came.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:04:14 nice little interview from Fitton for those who want one
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/8124817.stm Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:04:32 Expected but sad all the same
Good luck Coxy :bye: Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:07:16 oh and we paid for O'brien apparently
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:07:38 Firstly, its just plain ridiculous to suggest that clubs will try to screw us for more money - we're not Chelsea and we're talking about loose change in comparison. Plus whatever we sold him for doesn't have any real effect on how much we've got to spend as Fitton was already putting his hand in his pocket. Secondly, you might want to do the sums based on the deal that has been announced. Its all over the media as being £1.5m plus another £0.4m in add ons so at present other clubs will think we've got £1.5m in cash. In reality we get under £1m in cash - for us to have £1.5m in cash from the deal we'd have needed to sell him for £2.35m once the sell on clause is taken in to account. But 'in reality' you don't know if the sell on is included in the figures being bandied about - it's just possible that the Adver may be wrong-, and you don't know if it was really 40%. Why is it so important to know ? It's only one part of the financial jigsaw, without the rest we're none the wiser. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:09:54 im with DV on this-the fee is disappointing,everybody knows he's going right to the top
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:11:52 Anything else happened whilst I've been away?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:14:43 i'm sorry but how can the fee be dissapointing? He has played one full season for us and scored 32 goals and that was a dissapointing season at that.
SP played 3 seasons for us scoring a lot more goals consistantly and also in a play off season and we sell him for a reported £750k. That was dissapointing. £1.9m for coxy is good business after one season with us. Dissapointing he's gone but not dissapointed at the price Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:23:00 but Coxy is a far far better player than SSP-quality like his is rare,some of the goals he scored were world-class and that's not an exaggeration.Do you think he is worth more than Horlock was when we sold him for 1.5 million?Thats all we are quaranteed
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:23:41 I would have hoped that we would have included a further sell on clause to the deal as well, maybe 25%, so if they sell him on for say £4m if he proves a hit then we will get more further on down the line!
Good deal, good luck Coxy! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:35:47 but Coxy is a far far better player than SSP-quality like his is rare,some of the goals he scored were world-class and that's not an exaggeration.Do you think he is worth more than Horlock was when we sold him for 1.5 million?Thats all we are quaranteed no but we were in league 1 (championship) and thus (for whatever reason i don't agree with) clubs demand higher transfer fees. if Horlock was here now in the new League 1 being sold he wouldn't even fetch a million. I mean Darren Bent, £14m. Just cos he's in the premiership doesn't make him any good. So to sell a player after 1 season in league 1 for almost £2m i think is good business Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:42:12 Sold after 12 months at a 700% mark up for a club record fee is excellent business.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:51:48 but Coxy is a far far better player than SSP-quality like his is rare,some of the goals he scored were world-class and that's not an exaggeration.Do you think he is worth more than Horlock was when we sold him for 1.5 million?Thats all we are quaranteed As someone else said, the fee for Cox is based on him being a League One player - if he had just scored 30 goals in the Championship then we'd be looking at £4m minimum, if he'd just done it in the Premier League then it would be £15m minimum. But he's only done it in League One so £2m or so is about right. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 15:58:00 But 'in reality' you don't know if the sell on is included in the figures being bandied about - it's just possible that the Adver may be wrong-, and you don't know if it was really 40%. Now come on that's not very likely is it?Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:04:17 Darrent Bent is a good player Magic
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DMR on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:05:39 I haven't read this thread, just the BBC report, so I might get pilloried for saying this but I'm continuing to dislike Fitton more and more. £1.9m maximum is simply not enough.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:07:01 Darrent Bent is a good player Magic not worth £14m though Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:18:39 Very true but is anyone worth what gets paid for then. DMR how much is fair to you. What if we have a decent sell on cause?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:19:29 I haven't read this thread, just the BBC report, so I might get pilloried for saying this but I'm continuing to dislike Fitton more and more. £1.9m maximum is simply not enough. So he's worth more than 7 times what he was worth 12 months ago?! I think some people need a serious reality check. We're talking about a young striker who has had 1 successful season in Division 3. The lad goes for an all time club record fee and it's not enough? What do you want...blood? Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:19:45 im with DV on this-the fee is disappointing, everybody knows he's going right to the top[//b] I don't think that's certain. He has a lack of explosive first 5 yards pace and weaknesses he needs to iron out (first touch, misses the odd sitter). But he's only 22 and I honestly really hope he plays in the Prem. He's earned the chance to prove himself in the Championship and if he does the job WBA will be promoted and we'll find out. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:22:23 Everyone knows Cox is going to the top in pretty much the same we 'knew' SSP was going to the top in 2005 (ie we know bugger all).
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:22:37 So he's worth more than 7 times what he was worth 12 months ago?! I think some people need a serious reality check. We're talking about a young striker who has had 1 successful season in Division 3. The lad goes for an all time club record fee and it's not enough? What do you want...blood? I'd class both his seasons in Town colours as successfull Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:22:58 I am well upset that he has gone.
But I did say all along that £1.5m was a fair price for him, and I was proven to be right. Anyone expecting more than that is, quite frankly, delusional. To get that amount in cash up front is fantastic, and the performance clauses are a bonus. :) Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:23:47 I'd class both his seasons in Town colours as successfull My mistake. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Doore on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 16:28:04 Fair price I think - as fans we will never know the fine details of these deals, that's just the way it is.
The guy has a lot of potential but I wouldn't necessarily back him to go all the way to the top - that's a massive jump - I'll be watching his progress with interest next season. I'm not sure would could have asked for more - 32 goals and something like a 700% profit. Can't complain. Although many will. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 17:31:50 Everyone knows Cox is going to the top in pretty much the same we 'knew' SSP was going to the top in 2005 (ie we know bugger all). but as i said before Cox is a far far better player than SSP ever was. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: ahounsell on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 17:47:17 good point, so are we infact only going to get around £875,000? (thats around 60% right, just off the cuff figure in my head) If the 40% sell-on is right (and I've seen nothing official to state that it is), Reading would receive about £520,000 (40% of the profit) assuming we paid £200,000 in the first place which seems to be the commonly quoted figure. That would leave us with just under £1 million up front. The add-ons would also be split 60/40. I said some time ago that I thought fair value for Cox was £1.5 million so Im not disappointed at all with the fee. If more clubs had entered the bidding we may have got more, but it seems like only WBA were prepared to show the colour of their money. Given that he has never played above League One level, has only a year left on his contract, and has made it pretty plain that he wants to move on, I think its a very good deal for the club. West Brom is probably a good club for him to go to because the add-ons likely include a payment if they get promoted which is quite likely. They are also quite likely to go straight back down again, so if he does score goal in the meantime, we may profit from a hefty sell on percentage ourselves in due course. Its clearly part of the business plan to speculate on young players and hope to realise a profit after a couple of years or so. If we re-invest the money wisely (and I have confidence that Wilson will do that), its a good strategy. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:04:15 "Hello darkness my old friend...." :)
We'll replace him adequately, the newbie may not score as many goals but players come and go. We need others to put their shift in in the goalscoring department anyway. Over to you Mr. Wilson... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:04:22 Club record fee isn't it?
Sorry if it's been mentioned elsewhere. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:12:30 "Hello darkness my old friend...." :) We'll replace him adequately, the newbie may not score as many goals but players come and go. We need others to put their shift in in the goalscoring department anyway. and for the defence put their shift in conceding fewer, i'd be surprised if our GS to GC ratio is as bad as it was last season which will help no end Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:13:08 Club record fee isn't it? Sorry if it's been mentioned elsewhere. The same initial fee as Kevin Horlock but will be our highest with add-ons. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:31:02 Im so over Coxy already That hurts...... :( Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:35:34 I'm over JFW, but I just can't get Simon Cox out of my mind.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:41:21 Best of luck Coxy, and hopefully he'll score a few against the plastics and Shitty next season, and hopefully the town fans will show their appreciation in just under 3 weeks time at the CG.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:47:32 fuck him, now hes gone dont give a shit.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 18:48:54 fuck him, now hes gone dont give a shit. That's the spirit :) Players come, players go... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arch Stanton on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 21:04:42 thank fuck, never rated the guy........ :cry:
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 22:36:30 Farewell Simon You have done Swindon proud You will be missed But, so was Kenny Stroud Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:02:43 So apparently we will receive 900k straight away but 600k of that goes to Reading! Ouch!
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:04:10 So apparently we will receive 900k straight away but 600k of that goes to Reading! Ouch! No, we get 1.5m out of which Reading get 40%Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: herthab on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:04:25 So apparently we will receive 900k straight away but 600k of that goes to Reading! Ouch! How do you work that out? surely they will only receive 40% of the initial fee? Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:18:47 Read the Adver site! Fitton's article....
"Town will receive £900,000 for Cox straight up from West Brom and it is believed that £600,000 will be passed on to Reading as part of a sell-on clause, which the clubs negotiated before the striker arrived in Wiltshire. The Robins may get up to £400,000 in add-ons from the Baggies, depending on how Cox performs for the Championship club." Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:28:47 So apparently we will receive 900k straight away but 600k of that goes to Reading! Ouch! Good job you're a postie and don't work for HMRC..... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:31:26 Read the fucking Adver site.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:32:25 I read it that West Brom will pay £900k to us and £600k to Reading, which gives £1.5 million in total.
Badly worded on the Adver's part I think. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:39:25 I read it that West Brom will pay £900k to us and £600k to Reading, which gives £1.5 million in total. Badly worded on the Adver's part I think. Exactly. Open to interpretation though, as Ralph has clearly demonstrated. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:39:34 What they should have put is.. "Town will receive 900k for Cox upfront and an additional 600k will be passed onto Reading as part of the sell on clause."
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 07:50:28 No, that still sounds a bit ambiguous.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 08:03:56 The fee is 1.5m up front. Of that 900k will go to us, 600k to Reading. Is that clear enough?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: nevillew on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 08:09:52 The fee is 1.5m up front. Of that 900k will go to us, 600k to Reading. Is that clear enough? So what are you saying exactly ? Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 08:16:23 So what are you saying exactly ? If Ronaldo's worth 80m and Kaka's worth 60m then we should have got at least the GNP of France for Coxy with only a small baguette going to Reading. It's an outrage, no ambition, sack the board etc etcTitle: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 08:16:27 The adver are cunts we all know it unfortunately it the first place most Town fans get to read anything about STFC and invariably they fabricate a lot of it mostly from reading forums. There will be loads of people reading that story this morning and interpreting it the same way that Ralphy has. I particularly like the "believed to be £600,000 to Reading" the cunts don't know they are just going on a rumour started on the thisis forum a few months ago.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arch Stanton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 08:43:00 I was in a pretty good mood this morning until I read the comment sections on the Adver site, the stupid thing is I know I shouldnt bother 'cos I just get annoyed - but as Bill Hicks once said, its like having a sore tooth that you can't stop poking at.... I've got to look... and my god it winds me up... they're all a bunch of twats.
Now I'm in a foul mood.... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: nevillew on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 09:31:31 Look! I'm posting 'underneath the Arch's'
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arch Stanton on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:02:36 Look! I'm posting 'underneath the Arch's' ...and I'm back in a good mood after reading that.... Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:05:07 1.5 million WTF?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:45:01 COX PAYS TRIBUTE TO SWINDON TOWN (Sorry if already posted)
Quote SIMON Cox revealed he left Swindon with a heavy heart, having completed a £1.9million move to West Brom earlier this week. The 22-year-old striker spoke for the first time since his transfer this morning at a press conference in the Midlands, at which the Advertiser was present. And Cox couldn't talk highly enough of his time in Wiltshire, which set him up for his next step up the football ladder. “I believed in myself to move down a league to come back up. I thoroughly enjoyed my time at Swindon - lovely people and a great club. “The chairman and manager were superb with me but now I’ve got the opportunity to play in a higher league with a big club, and I’ve got to take that. “I can’t emphasise how much of a nice club that is. They were superb with me, and under the new manager they should do alright this year." Baggies boss Roberto Di Matteo said: “I’ve seen Simon personally over the past year, followed him, and I think he has all the attributes to become a successful player for us at West Brom. “His goalscoring record is very, very good, and he is a young, talented, hungry player who wants to move on and show the rest of the world what kind of player he is. I think that’s the kind of player we are looking for. “I think it’s unfair to compare him to anyone else - he is his own player in his own right. He is a very intelligent player and very good in-and-around the box, finding the space and playing offthe main striker. “These are his strengths and I’m confident he will score a lot of goals for us." http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/4483779.Cox_pays_tribute_to_time_at_Swindon/ Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, July 9, 2009, 13:48:48 This is all very sickly sweet isn't it.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:04:30 The Adver has about 4 new articles on it's site today about Cox, I honestly don't care anymore!
Yet they still have nothing on the signing of Jonathan Douglas?! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: mexico red on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:05:35 im going to boo him against west brom
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:08:44 Swindon reject, Swindon reject...
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: mexico red on Friday, July 10, 2009, 07:09:46 that would be fucking hilarious after all this newspaper love in stories.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:06:10 Swindon reject, Swindon reject... This has to be done. I nominate you to start it Ralph. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:17:11 Swindon reject, Swindon reject... Perhaps I don't get out enough but that really is one of the funniest things I have read for ages. I bet that will make Coxy chuckle. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:56:30 I hope Douglas breaks his legs!
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:58:48 coin the cunt
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 12:05:15 I hope Douglas breaks his legs! Better not, we've got £400k riding on his success !! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Friday, July 10, 2009, 13:00:54 Better not, we've got £400k riding on his success !! Good shout, wait until next pre-season. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, July 10, 2009, 13:11:15 Good shout, wait until next pre-season. Still doesn't stop us giving him some stick. That goal against Walsall was so lucky !!! One season wonder !!! What a waste of money !!! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 14:07:03 This has to be done. I nominate you to start it Ralph. Ok I will. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, July 10, 2009, 14:38:09 Good man.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:06:16 if you have the balls to do it ralph then someone needs to record peoples reactions as you'd get fucking slated :D
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:51:16 I think most people would understand the irony of it. Well everyone bar the mongs in the corner of the Don Rogers.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, July 10, 2009, 15:51:55 where do sit now Ralph? Same spot?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Ralphy on Friday, July 10, 2009, 16:34:06 Yes. Well 2 seats to the right.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, July 10, 2009, 22:26:01 Yes. Well 2 seats to the right. Fuck the DRS.You have to be in TE to do this Ralphy. Get real. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 10, 2009, 22:37:46 are you angry tonight talk talk?
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, July 10, 2009, 23:31:18 are you angry tonight talk talk? Nah. Just getting the placement right. 'Swindon Reject' will be lost on the DRS. They will probably clap and automatically go for their flasks in there. It will be heard by a block of about 9x9 seats. I think Ralphy's suggestion deserves full on TE support. Change stands Ralphus, at least for this one. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 17:11:40 played his first game for west brom and missed a penalty.
they lost 1-0 to Histon! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 17:15:19 Just seen it on SSN. To be fair that keeper saved 2 pens. Cox won the 2nd one for them as well.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 17:16:13 Aye. I just watched that.
Decent save from the keeper from Cox penalty. Peach of a goal from Igoe against Southampton as well. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 11, 2009, 18:55:46 played his first game for west brom and missed a penalty. Bringing the Swindon touch to the Baggies already :)they lost 1-0 to Histon! Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 07:07:23 hmmm We only paid £120,000 for Coxy then...
“It was a win-win situation, all we paid for Simon Cox was £120,000, whereas they valued him at £400,000. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 07:10:48 hmmm We only paid £120,000 for Coxy then... “It was a win-win situation, all we paid for Simon Cox was £120,000, whereas they valued him at £400,000. Whaty what what? Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 09:32:36 Whaty what what? Its in today's Adver - we only paid £120k for Cox. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 09:40:34 + another 600k as part of the sell on.
If Reading valued him at 400, then they've done rather well with the 720k they've got so far. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: strooood on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 09:55:00 + another 600k as part of the sell on. If Reading valued him at 400, then they've done rather well with the 720k they've got so far. No not really, they valued him at 400k when he was an unproven youngling 18 months ago. Now he has scored loads of goals and will be competing directly with them for promotion to the Premier League next season. They would now value him a lot higher than 720k I'm sure. We're certainly the winners in this situation. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 09:57:20 Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they've done us out of anything. Just that the risk of a sell on clause has worked out nicely for them. I'm sure they often end up worthless with young players.
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:00:40 Looks like Fitton is starting to realise that a certain amount of investment in good players is required to eventually make the books balance. A good Youth team alone is not going to run this club on and off the pitch.
At the start of last season our first team saleable assets amounted solely to Simon Cox. At the start of this season they will be Cuthbert and Morrison, as well as possibly this player from "a much bigger club". In that respect, things are looking better for the club. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:06:10 I think he's always realised that, the combination of the two was very much the strategy set out at last year's AGM that set off the ridiculous "Swindon are a selling club" headlines
Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 16:34:51 Looks like Fitton is starting to realise that a certain amount of investment in good players is required to eventually make the books balance. A good Youth team alone is not going to run this club on and off the pitch. At the start of last season our first team saleable assets amounted solely to Simon Cox. At the start of this season they will be Cuthbert and Morrison, as well as possibly this player from "a much bigger club". In that respect, things are looking better for the club. Good post...also add Greer to that list if he stays fit..with Thompson and Macklin close behind,Thompson especially is being watched by Prem clubs galore,down to them to take make the most of any games they may play. Title: Re: COXY HAS OFFICIALLY GONE Post by: michael on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 17:11:31 + another 600k as part of the sell on. If Reading valued him at 400, then they've done rather well with the 720k they've got so far. I reckon that £600k figure is wrong anyway. There is no way we'd pay Reading 40% (assuming 40% is the sell on figure) of the transfer fee, it would have to be 40% of any profit made. By my calculations, we gave Reading £552k, with another £160k to come if the £400k worth of clauses are met :) |