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« Reply #810 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 11:10:42 »

This game is not over. There are going to be days like yesterday if you adopt the kind of approach to the game that England have. But it is working more often than not.

Hearing Vaughn moaning on about it over the last few days is becoming increasingly annoying. His "it can't just be about entertainment, it's about winning"  line would fly a bit better if England in their first 14 tests under Stokes hadn't already racked up about half the number of wins that they managed under Vaughn in more than 50 games. Yes Michael fans do want to see England win. They really don't want to see 50% of tests end in a draw, and to be clearly heading for a draw within 3 days of play. You know like they did when you were in charge.

This is it - if we'd give up a winning strategy to play banter cricket then I'd totally get the anger. But we were shit AND dull before.

Biggest problem for me in this series so far hasn't been the Bazball chat but the fact that we haven't managed to get a Wood/Archer/Stone pace bowler out there. Robinson is bowling late 70s here which is literally club standard stuff.
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« Reply #811 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 11:19:56 »

Aussies are all at sea against the short ball now. Interesting development.
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« Reply #812 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 11:23:58 »

Aussies are all at sea against the short ball now. Interesting development.

England will fancy chasing 350/380
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« Reply #813 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 11:31:17 »

I think Tongue has been quite impressive in this match.
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« Reply #814 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 12:21:28 »

I think Tongue has been quite impressive in this match.

Very much so.

I’d bring Wood in for the text one for Anderson, he’s looked poor. The pitches aren’t for him at all.
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« Reply #815 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 12:37:12 »

Very much so.

I’d bring Wood in for the text one for Anderson, he’s looked poor. The pitches aren’t for him at all.
I don’t think Wood is fit. If not, then Potts probably.

If Pope’s shoulder is buggered I’d bring Foakes in to keep wicket. Bairstow has been poor.
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« Reply #816 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 12:44:07 »

Will Australia try and get a further 87 runs to give them a lead of 400 with a little of the final session left to bowl and one full day or will England take quick wickets! Intriguing stuff.
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« Reply #817 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 13:50:02 »

Aussies seem to be happy to bat out the draw...
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« Reply #818 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 14:12:15 »

Cricket has always been an easy game. Just bowl short.
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« Reply #819 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 14:13:17 »

Aussies seem to be happy to bat out the draw...
They are leading 1-0. Take time out of the game and get a lead of 350 and they have a possibility of maintaining the 1-0 or extending to 2-0.

Have a big thwack and there is more chance of England snatching a win.

The pitch being 2 paced will be difficult for England to chase.
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« Reply #820 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 14:41:16 »

Cricket has always been an easy game. Just bowl short.

Been interesting as a one off, but this is pretty dire stuff to watch really. For all the talk of entertaining with the bat, not sure there would be many who want to watch this more than as a one off. Makes tactical sense with the pitch behaving as it is, but the entertainment factor is... not high.
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« Reply #821 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 14:46:15 »

Stokes with no knees now bowling to Lyon with one leg. It's like M*A*S*H out there.
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« Reply #822 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 15:09:33 »

Would it not be a good idea to bowl at the stumps?
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« Reply #823 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 15:15:34 »

Would it not be a good idea to bowl at the stumps?

Not really, based on how this game has gone. 150/8 today not bothering, and England's innings was flying until they went short all the time.

Target is 370. It's big, but a long way short of what it could be. If we get off to a good start, this could be really fun.
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« Reply #824 on: Saturday, July 1, 2023, 15:18:15 »

It's imperative we don't collapse in the final session today
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