Abu Hamza Jailed

[Simon Pieman]

Or picking those plastic ducks at the funfair.

He may be out early, but like I said he's likely to be extradited not being a proper British citizen and all.

[Dazzza]

Is he naturalised of just on ILR?

If it's ILR he can have it revoked and sent back to Egypt if the US don't want him.

I'm pretty sure he's Naturalised so he gets full rights the same as everyone else.  Not that I think it matters with extradition and all.

[Simon Pieman]

His marriage was a sham and the home office is in the process of removing his citizenship

[Dazzza]

If he has been naturalised then they still won’t be able to remove his citizenship even if his marriage was a sham.  

Naturalised citizens are classed as full Brits with all of the rights.  That’s why there are so many controls coming in to stop people like hooky slipping the net and leaving the authorities virtually powerless.

I’m sure Blunkett may have still had a go and came up empty handed.

[Simon Pieman]

Ministers now have powers to deprive dual nationals of their British nationality if they behave in a way that is "seriously prejudicial" to the UK's vital interest. It is also possible to remove citizenship if it was acquired by deception.

Source: The Telegraph, 2003.

[Sussex]

Wiping his arse must be delicate operation!

[my-velocity]

Finnaly :twisted:

[Gelbfüßler]

I used to call Hameur Bouazza Abu Hamza because I thought it sounded similar, not to his face or anything though.

Good job he left when he did, someone might've have thought I was preaching hate to the western world   :shock: especially now the real hook handed monsters back in the news

[Dazzza]

Ministers now have powers to deprive dual nationals of their British nationality if they behave in a way that is "seriously prejudicial" to the UK's vital interest. It is also possible to remove citizenship if it was acquired by deception.

Source: The Telegraph, 2003.

That’s not actually been passed yet chief.  Its part of the immigration, asylum and nationality bill going through the Lords at the moment.  It applies to dual nationality holders only, which Hamza technically isn’t or shouldn't be.  

Egyptians like other nationalities are forced to revoke their first nationality when they take up another.  That said if you know how there are ways and means around this.

It’s unlikely to ever wash unless it’s against someone who has committed a serious act of terrorism.   In a case like Hooky's a half decent lawyer would pull the case to shreds.

If you’re really interested it’s section 53…

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldbills/043/2006043.htm

 :boring:  

It's really not worth the while TBH better off looking at porn...

[McLovin]

My housemate told me "that hook bloke got jailed today". I actually thought he meant Peter...

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[yeo]

Should never have been jailed.

Hamza and Griffin are the same as far as im concerened and if Griffin was cleared then Hamza should of been as well.

[Gelbfüßler]

Yeah but Hamza's got a hook, and I think Hamza's preachings were of more intent to incite hatred than Griffin's, but the point is where do you draw the line? Both are cocks in my opinion

[pauld]

Should never have been jailed.

Hamza and Griffin are the same as far as im concerened and if Griffin was cleared then Hamza should of been as well.

That's a bit like saying if one murderer has been freed on a dodgy appeal, we should let them all out. Just cos Griffin didn't get what he deserved doesn't make Hamza any less guilty. I still like my idea of putting both of them in a pit and making them fight it out - then bang up the survivor.

Oh and he's unlikely to be out in 3 years - the US want to question him over organising terrorist training camps, so I'd guess when his sentence is up here, it'll be out of Pentonville, straight down to Heathrow then a touch of the old extraordinary rendition.

[flammableBen]

Should never have been jailed.

Hamza and Griffin are the same as far as im concerened and if Griffin was cleared then Hamza should of been as well.

I sort of agree, as soon as people start getting jailed for stuff they are saying then we are living in a bit of a dodgy climate.

I'd be up for arresting the guy if he'd been organising an underground terrorist cell, but from what I can tell he's just been spouting slogans out and has ended up a scape goat for the british media.

All this is doing is taking out someone who's easy to keep an eye on for intellagence work, and prooving to a lot of people that what he's been saying is right.

[flammableBen]

Should never have been jailed.

Hamza and Griffin are the same as far as im concerened and if Griffin was cleared then Hamza should of been as well.

I sort of agree, as soon as people start getting jailed for stuff they are saying then we are living in a bit of a dodgy climate.

I'd be up for arresting the guy if he'd been organising an underground terrorist cell, but from what I can tell he's just been spouting slogans out and has ended up a scape goat for the british media.

All this is doing is taking out someone who's easy to keep an eye on for intellagence work, and prooving to a lot of people that what he's been saying is right.

I just re-read that and it's really badly written, sorry, i hope my point get's across