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red macca

« on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:01:33 »

are we preparing for league 2?

i think we are and think it could be a good thing.we are offering longer contracts now and in my eyes a team with peacock,roberts,the two smiths,o,hanlon,platt shakes etc will be a good strong team in league two..if we stay up then thats great but then what?another struggle after .sometimes its good to regroup and start again.if we are pushing for promotion attendances will be up and the feel good factor will be back...

just my warped opinion ..feel free to discuss
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:02:25 »

Not sure how we do but I'll still support the team as much if not more than I do now. Closer games aswell.  Beers
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:05:13 »

I disagree actually. I think relagation would be VERY bad financially for us, so i wouldn't have thought longer contracts would be advisable (ie P Cock). I think this might be one last throw of the dice by Iffy to try and keep us up. I pray it works.
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:11:41 »

Its difficult to read the runes from Newbury.....but the short contract, lots of loans policy is what's got us in the shit in the first place, but it should have the advantage of if relegated the players can be cleared out and a side more in line with the income of gates of probably, <3000 can be constructed.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:16:20 »

Going down is always a no-no. I remember 6 years ago, we were being told how it would be good for us to go down, get to play a load of local derbies with bigger gates, and start again - well that worked didn't it. We must not prepare for league 2, until it is certain we are there. Until then everything must be done to ensure we don't end up there.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:19:33 »

I think we are preparing for league two, by signing these players on 2 year deals they cant go for free, which should mean we have a good chance of pushing for promotion back to league one next season, which will bring back supporters.

Its always better to be near the top of a league, no matter what league
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:22:42 »

de ja vu - they are trying not to make the same mistakes (12 month contracts, non playing contracts, loans) they did before. All the short term stuf is what got us in the shite in the first place.
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:24:43 »

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Going down is always a no-no. I remember 6 years ago, we were being told how it would be good for us to go down, get to play a load of local derbies with bigger gates, and start again - well that worked didn't it. We must not prepare for league 2, until it is certain we are there. Until then everything must be done to ensure we don't end up there.


 Good point, although I always feel when we're in the second tier its more or less only a matter of time before we drop.....that's 4 I've seen now.

 And you can get to the point where there's little enjoyment because we're so crap.....in this league even this season at this point in time we are at least semi competitive, so its not generally so painful.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:27:43 »

I think in a way I have kind of accepted that we will most likely be in league two next season. I just worry that we will find ourself struggling near the bottom of league two, once your down there your stuck there and its extrememly hard to get out of it.
But then I look at the positives like red macca pointed out - pushing for promotion and attendances etc. Also all the local derbys  Cool  Cheltenham,rovers and the big one!!

How ever There is a small part of me that thinks we could still get out of this. Who knows what the signing of lee peacock and the others could do? Nobody knows - We could go on a superb run or we could go on a bad run. Just have to see what happens.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:32:47 »

i have accepted it, if we stay up, brill. if we don't then im expecting a few seasons in league 2 cause we definitely won't have half the squad we do now.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:33:52 »

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I think in a way I have kind of accepted that we will most likely be in league two next season. I just worry that we will find ourself struggling near the bottom of league two, once your down there your stuck there and its extrememly hard to get out of it.
But then I look at the positives like red macca pointed out - pushing for promotion and attendances etc. Also all the local derbys  Cool  Cheltenham,rovers and the big one!!

How ever There is a small part of me that thinks we could still get out of this. Who knows what the signing of lee peacock and the others could do? Nobody knows - We could go on a superb run or we could go on a bad run. Just have to see what happens.


 I'm looking forward to a trip to Accrington....going to be quality.

 Its a little known fact that Peel Park, the home of Stanley when  they left the league, had a stand just like the old Shrivenham Road, which they also got from the Aldershot Tattoo showground.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:38:51 »

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Good point, although I always feel when we're in the second tier its more or less only a matter of time before we drop.....that's 4 I've seen now.

And you can get to the point where there's little enjoyment because we're so crap.....in this league even this season at this point in time we are at least semi competitive, so its not generally so painful.


That is true, the last season under Quinn was especially dire, and that was a forgone conclusion even at the point of the season then, that we are at now.

However, I would always rather be in the highest league possible, and moreso this league as it has be shown that teams can turn from one season just escaping relegation to be promotion fodder the next (also on a shoestring budget, i.e. Brentford, Colchester, Chesterfield etc). While we are in this league there is always the chance that next season we'll not necessarily come close to a top 10 position but have a steady season with an improving squad looking to build - much like what happened under King.

If we were to go down, my biggest worry is the same will happen as it did 6 years ago and we'll be flirting with relegation of the 4th division I could honestly see that being the death of the club, so while we still have a fighting chance in this league we must not see any talk of 'league two'.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:40:30 »

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once your down there your stuck there and its extrememly hard to get out of it.
I know what you're saying Sade, but technically, it should be easier to get out of.....4 promotion places you see
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:42:55 »

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once your down there your stuck there and its extrememly hard to get out of it.
I know what you're saying Sade, but technically, it should be easier to get out of.....4 promotion places you see


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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 18:44:21 »

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Good point, although I always feel when we're in the second tier its more or less only a matter of time before we drop.....that's 4 I've seen now.

And you can get to the point where there's little enjoyment because we're so crap.....in this league even this season at this point in time we are at least semi competitive, so its not generally so painful.


That is true, the last season under Quinn was especially dire, and that was a forgone conclusion even at the point of the season then, that we are at now.

However, I would always rather be in the highest league possible, and moreso this league as it has be shown that teams can turn from one season just escaping relegation to be promotion fodder the next (also on a shoestring budget, i.e. Brentford, Colchester, Chesterfield etc). While we are in this league there is always the chance that next season we'll not necessarily come close to a top 10 position but have a steady season with an improving squad looking to build - much like what happened under King.

If we were to go down, my biggest worry is the same will happen as it did 6 years ago and we'll be flirting with relegation of the 4th division I could honestly see that being the death of the club, so while we still have a fighting chance in this league we must not see any talk of 'league two'.


 I concur

  This div is our spiritual home, if we've fallen so far we can't sustain a place in it, then the rot truly has set in and I'm afraid you're right, can't imagine the club having the motivation to get out.
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