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« Reply #15 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 09:00:26 »

she's an accountant not a public speaker....
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 11:18:52 »

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she's an accountant not a public speaker....


Is this is supposed to justify such an apparent incompetence? ANY good accountant would know their market anyway. Just shows why we need someone like Devlin
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 11:20:12 »

She mumbled and stuttered her way through that interview and to think she's our Chief Executive is shocking. :twisted:
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 13:59:20 »

She may be ok as an accountant although the vat thing is worrying. However chief executive is a role where it's essential to be good at public speaking, I don't think she'd even claim to be ideal for the role.

It seems indicative of just how poor a state the club is in that she was forced to take it on.
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 14:05:20 »

You cant tell me that Mark Devlin didnt do a good job?.
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 14:39:32 »

Who do you mean me. Me? If so no why would I. I thought Devlin did an excellent job, that's why I said losing him was a kick in the teeth.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 14:43:06 »

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The worrying thing is she has a say in who to appoint next and that does worry me greatly. As much as I think appointing Reeves or Iffy would be a mistake in a way I kind of hope it is someone like that just because I'm terrified otherwise she'll apoint Brian Tinnion or reinstate Gorman or someone like that. Hopefully this will turn out to be an irrational fear. In PR terms she is awful, just not cut out for this kind of role at all.

Whilst Devlin was here he did a lot of things which wouldn't normally be too popular,  like raising ticket prices. The big difference is Devlin's PR skills were excellent, he kept everyone informed of what was going on and always seemed to be in control, the club seemed to have a sense of direction. With Sandy Gray this is not the case.

Personally I felt that the club recieved a real kick in the teeth in July 2004, first Mooney leaving, then Crosby leaving then Devlin leaving and no replacement. Worse still was when the board refused to let King spend any of the money earmarked for Mooney. In my opinion the combination of these factors is the reason that we didn't quite replicate our 2003/2004 form last year and the main reason things aren't now going so well.


That has to be the best summary of Swindon's last couple of seasons, and does make me worry about King.  It seems to be a case of we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.  A possible replacement of King could be potentially disasterous, but the way he has alienated so many fans just nails down his coffin for me.
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 14:46:46 »

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Who do you mean me. Me? If so no why would I. I thought Devlin did an excellent job, that's why I said losing him was a kick in the teeth.


Yes you laddy!, ok i'll let you off. Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 17:23:21 »

Why the hell was she left here in the first place when Dunwoody Sports Marketing were forced to pull out of the club?

In fact I thought she did actually resign when Dunwoody pulled out with Nick Prescott.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/News_Headlines_Story.asp?NewsID=1504

How the hell is she still actually here and to what degree does she still represent outside interests?
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 17:38:54 »

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Why the hell was she left here in the first place when Dunwoody Sports Marketing were forced to pull out of the club?

In fact I thought she did actually resign when Dunwoody pulled out with Nick Prescott.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/News_Headlines_Story.asp?NewsID=1504

How the hell is she still actually here and to what degree does she still represent outside interests?


 Good hunting Dazzza...I think the withdrawal of DSM was only a technicality,  namely they said they were withdrawing from a contract but didn't withdraw from the club.

  Mrs Gray first came to our attention at  an AGM....when it was announced she was doing the club a favour by doing accountancy for free...on secondment from DSM.

  Somehow she's ended up as the person supposedly running the club...this situation needs to be fully explored at the Fans' Forum, as it just seems wrong.
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« Reply #25 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 18:25:10 »

Dunwoody Sports Marketing is actually no more and has been re-packaged as two new separate companies...

Dunwoody Management Services Ltd
Dunwoody Marketing Communications

I suspect the change in name was forced as anyone entering DSM into an Internet search would have seen a rap sheet to make Charles Bronson blush.

A quick check at Companies House shows Sandy Gray is in fact a director of Dunwoody Management Services Limited.

It all stinks to high heaven and while Diamandis may not be employed by the club in any official capacity and untouchable to a degree Gray as chief exec is obliged to answer questions and reveal external interests.
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 19:13:23 »

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Dunwoody Sports Marketing is actually no more and has been re-packaged as two new separate companies...

Dunwoody Management Services Ltd
Dunwoody Marketing Communications

I suspect the change in name was forced as anyone entering DSM into an Internet search would have seen a rap sheet to make Charles Bronson blush.

A quick check at Companies House shows Sandy Gray is in fact a director of Dunwoody Management Services Limited.

It all stinks to high heaven and while Diamandis may not be employed by the club in any official capacity and untouchable to a degree Gray as chief exec is obliged to answer questions and reveal external interests.


 This is the kind of stuff, that needs to be aired at the fan's forum

 I'd have guessed SG would have been in the services arm rather than the communications..
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« Reply #27 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 20:45:32 »

Of little relevance now but another recently departed Chief Exec of ours also happened to be a former Dunwoody board member and employee a certain Mark Devlin.

That surely must amount to a conflict of interest at the time Dunwoody were under the cosh?

No surprises they also happen to be involved at QPR.
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 20:52:08 »

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No surprises they also happen to be involved now at QPR.



Dunwoody were involved at QPR before Devlin went there.   :|


I seem to remember that QPR have either had some sort of dodgy dealing going on and lateness of accounts and stuff (but I can't remember where I heard that)...
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday, September 17, 2005, 20:57:26 »

Coincidently Mark Devlin was sacked last month after a board room coop at Loftus Road.

http://www.queensparkrangersfc.com/newsaugust2505.htm

I’d wager it won’t be long before he’s back in some capacity at STFC and despite past tedious links for the love of god he’s a hundred fold improvement on Sandy.

Seems his tenure wasn't without controversy....

http://www.qpr-lsa.co.uk/

scroll down a bit for the story

Greek Businessmen?

Couldn't be could it?   :shock:
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