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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 19:42:37 »

And you thought it was a bloody Mary
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 20:04:23 »

If I drink a bottle of wine, generally 75cl @ 13.5%, why do I feel more pissed than when I drink 3 x 50cl bottles of beer @, say, 4.5%?

I'm drinking twice the amount of beer alcohol, by volume, than the wine.

I work in the Drinks Industry.

3 x 50cl beer at 4.5% = 6.75cl pure alcohol
1 x 75cl of 13.5% = 10.125 cl of pure alcohol

Which sounds like nearly twice as much, but there's more to it that that.

Inebriation is related to the build up of alcohol in the system.
So if you drink the amounts above over the same period, the difference magnifies.

A study was carried out on Stella V Fosters to understand why Stella (5.3%) made people so much more pissed than Fosters (4%), when it only had 32% more alcohol content.

An average man at average weight can drink one pint of alcohol at 2.5% abv every hour and never get drunk, because the body can process the alcohol at the same rate that it is taken in - so no build up in the system.

Therefore the inebriation potential of Stella (assuming one pint every half hour) is 5.3-2.5 = 2.8
The inebriation potential of Fosters is 4.0-2.5 = 1.5

Therefore the effect of Stella V Fosters is 2.8/1.5 = 1.9 times not the 1.3 times you get from the abv's alone..

Therefore you would feel more pissed on the wine than you might even expect
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 20:21:11 »

Well answered, cheers.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 21:30:05 »

Alcohol is also an irritant to the gut entry so higher proof liquids are actually essentially refused entry at first, before eventually pressuring the entry open.  So lower proof gradually builds the alcohol in the blood stream while higher proof causes a longer time to feeling drunk but it happens rapidly once you hit that point.  Therefore it is much more noticeable and harder to control.
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 21:47:09 »

I work in the Drinks Industry.

3 x 50cl beer at 4.5% = 6.75cl pure alcohol
1 x 75cl of 13.5% = 10.125 cl of pure alcohol

Which sounds like nearly twice as much, but there's more to it that that.

Inebriation is related to the build up of alcohol in the system.
So if you drink the amounts above over the same period, the difference magnifies.

A study was carried out on Stella V Fosters to understand why Stella (5.3%) made people so much more pissed than Fosters (4%), when it only had 32% more alcohol content.

An average man at average weight can drink one pint of alcohol at 2.5% abv every hour and never get drunk, because the body can process the alcohol at the same rate that it is taken in - so no build up in the system.

Therefore the inebriation potential of Stella (assuming one pint every half hour) is 5.3-2.5 = 2.8
The inebriation potential of Fosters is 4.0-2.5 = 1.5

Therefore the effect of Stella V Fosters is 2.8/1.5 = 1.9 times not the 1.3 times you get from the abv's alone..

Therefore you would feel more pissed on the wine than you might even expect


Good post.

You can never get distilled (and drinkable!) alcohol greater than 96% abv e.g Polish spirit.

Fermented alcohol, like wine, wont get above approx 14%. The alcohol will kill the yeast at that level. The old myths about grannys elderflower wine stronger than brandy, are unfortunately myths.

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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 21:48:36 »

As a "treat" from some US airmen at Greenham common who frequented our local in the 80's they used to bring something on a Friday night simply called 151. That was its proof. They also used it so they said, as emergency helicopter fuel. Boy did it taste like it.

Sounds like Bacardi 151 = which is 151 proof - 75.5%. I've drank 75% Absinthe, and I like Bacardi, so I'm sure it's a delight.

They used to sell some shit in town called Overproof which was 60% I believe and it tasted like Tequila mixed with Captain morgans and sick. It used to be a battle to hold even a single shot down.
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 21:53:20 »

It wasn't Bacardi for sure. It probably was just fuel to see if the stupid locals would drink it.
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 23:56:35 »

Wray and Nephews rum I reckon Barry
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 00:13:02 »

Percentages? That's for nerds.

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 08:04:02 »

Sounds like Bacardi 151 = which is 151 proof - 75.5%. I've drank 75% Absinthe, and I like Bacardi, so I'm sure it's a delight.


The legendary 151. Comes with a fire proof warning and special pouring part so you don't spill it.
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 09:18:07 »

Wray and Nephews rum I reckon Barry

Just googled it and you're right. Even seeing the picture makes me feel sick.
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 09:35:49 »

Just googled it and you're right. Even seeing the picture makes me feel sick.

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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 11:40:32 »

The classic shot to stitch someone up  Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, June 7, 2016, 13:52:20 »

Just bumped this as I was in a cocktail bar at the weekend that served the Wray and Nephews rum Simon Pieman mentioned earlier.

They has these cards on the table talking about it like some nectar of the gods and it convinced me I was wrong so I should try it again. I wasn't. Fuck it's vile.



Although some Navy lad we were with liked it and also bought a shot of something called Old J Tiki Fire. It's 75.5% and is actually kind of palatable.

http://www.drinksupermarket.com/admiral-vernons-old-j-tiki-fire-rum-70cl
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, June 7, 2016, 13:55:06 »

Just bumped this as I was in a cocktail bar at the weekend that served the Wray and Nephews rum Simon Pieman mentioned earlier.

They has these cards on the table talking about it like some nectar of the gods and it convinced me I was wrong so I should try it again. I wasn't. Fuck it's vile.

Although some Navy lad we were with liked it and also bought a shot of something called Old J Tiki Fire. It's 75.5% and is actually kind of palatable.

http://www.drinksupermarket.com/admiral-vernons-old-j-tiki-fire-rum-70cl
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