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« Reply #465 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:16:35 »

Portsmouth and Blackburn can be countered by Chelsea and Man City.
And raised by Southampton....oh wait.
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« Reply #466 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:17:17 »

I think at the end of the day there are good and bad owners no matter how much money they have got or pump into clubs.
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« Reply #467 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:17:42 »

At a cost. If someone came in and gave us shit loads to spend but made us play in yellow how would you feel?
Stupid comparison. Cardiff's rivals play in white, not red.
If someone wanted to take us to the premiership, but wanted us to play in blue I may grumble a bit, but it would still be my club playing at that level
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« Reply #468 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:19:32 »

I would rather not have those owners, and keep the club's traditions. But that's just me.
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« Reply #469 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:24:42 »

They love a good old yarn about the finances of our club on there anyone would think they are actually running the club very very sad and deluded as always and will always be in our shadow

It's a wonder the country itself is in the state it's in when there are quite clearly tens of financial gurus sat on the internet in Oxford.
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« Reply #470 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:27:18 »

I would rather not have those owners, and keep the club's traditions. But that's just me.

But you are only counting the traditions as being started in about 1970, as most people seem to.

Red isn't even our colour, we shouldn't be playing in it if we go by the rule that we should never change anything.  Which bloody owners made us wear Red anyway? did they get driven out of town?

It's like the people who moan about a good old ruck and throwing of concrete terracing at each other being a tradition we miss.  Reality is, that just 20 years prior to that, in Reg's day, huge crowds would turn up to football games with rattles.

There is one tradition being maintained though, and that seems to be our wage bill.  I saw some account from about 1994 for the club back in the day, and I'm pretty sure the wage bill has grown well below the average for football teams.  If £250k a month is to be believed, that seems likely to be below quite a few in this league and in line with many of the recent seasons based on published accounts.

Black got involved as part of a group, when finances were going well for them all.  5 years on, the finance vanished for the stadium, which in turn put more pressure on their investment.  Now he is left to foot all the cash risk himself, at a time when his shares have dropped quite a bit, I'd imagine he'd getting rather twitchy about his bank balance.  If it comes down to owning us outright or owning his betting company, it was a no brainer who would win that.  So it is no surprise he wants to sell now - although he does want to remain involved, just not the man upfront carrying it all by the looks of it from his interview.

FWIW, wasn't Shrewsbury once part of Wales?  I'm sure it was.
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« Reply #471 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:31:31 »

FWIW, wasn't Shrewsbury once part of Wales?  I'm sure it was.

I think it is Chester you could be thinking about Rob.

Shrewsbury was only really part of Wales after it was over run by the Taffs in the 1215 Welsh marches uprising which was soon quashed.
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« Reply #472 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:31:46 »

We've played in red without fail since 1918.
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« Reply #473 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:32:15 »

We've played in red without fail since 1918.

But not before?
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« Reply #474 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:32:38 »

I think it is Chester you could be thinking about Rob.

Shrewsbury was only really part of Wales after it was over run by the Taffs in the 1215 Welsh marches uprising which was soon quashed.

Long enough, should have let them keep it.
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« Reply #475 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:33:26 »

We've played in red without fail since 1918.

Wembley play off Huh??

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« Reply #476 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:36:09 »

But you are only counting the traditions as being started in about 1970, as most people seem to.

Red isn't even our colour, we shouldn't be playing in it if we go by the rule that we should never change anything.  Which bloody owners made us wear Red anyway? did they get driven out of town?

It's like the people who moan about a good old ruck and throwing of concrete terracing at each other being a tradition we miss.  Reality is, that just 20 years prior to that, in Reg's day, huge crowds would turn up to football games with rattles.

There is one tradition being maintained though, and that seems to be our wage bill.  I saw some account from about 1994 for the club back in the day, and I'm pretty sure the wage bill has grown well below the average for football teams.  If £250k a month is to be believed, that seems likely to be below quite a few in this league and in line with many of the recent seasons based on published accounts.

Black got involved as part of a group, when finances were going well for them all.  5 years on, the finance vanished for the stadium, which in turn put more pressure on their investment.  Now he is left to foot all the cash risk himself, at a time when his shares have dropped quite a bit, I'd imagine he'd getting rather twitchy about his bank balance.  If it comes down to owning us outright or owning his betting company, it was a no brainer who would win that.  So it is no surprise he wants to sell now - although he does want to remain involved, just not the man upfront carrying it all by the looks of it from his interview.

FWIW, wasn't Shrewsbury once part of Wales?  I'm sure it was.

That was because at school we used to do useful things like woodwork, where you made a rattle..and were given red and white paint.
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Coca Fola

« Reply #477 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:42:26 »

But not before?
I would argue that 95 years without fail is long enough to be deemed traditional.
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« Reply #478 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:43:23 »

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It's quite interesting that having been in adminstration 2 times, Swindon fans still can't seem to fathom that their in serious shit here.

I apologise that it wasn't the actual chairman it was the former owner. Guess what if he wants his money back it doesn't matter if he's not a HMRC or PAYE, he is a creditor and if he wishes he can put you into adminstration if he requests his money back!!!

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« Reply #479 on: Friday, January 18, 2013, 17:49:33 »

Portsmouth and Blackburn can be countered by Chelsea and Man City.

How are they any different other than the sums of money involved being vastly higher?

I've never seen anything to suggest that the owners of Chelsea or Man City have written off all the debt.
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