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The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey

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« Reply #4665 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 12:01:22 »

I don't think that can be right. Otherwise Derby, Wednesday and Villa wouldn't have had to go down the route of selling their ground to themselves to disguise losses. That's the whole point of why Derby and Wednesday have been charged - because they tried to disguise additional money being put in by the owners with spurious ground sales.
Thatís for L1 and 2, I presume. Thereís no equivalent % in the Championship.

There itís a maximum of £39m losses over 3 years. Thatís what they were using the ground sale money for - to get their losses appear less
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« Reply #4666 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 12:06:11 »

Thatís for L1 and 2, I presume. Thereís no equivalent % in the Championship.

There itís a maximum of £39m losses over 3 years. Thatís what they were using the ground sale money for - to get their losses appear less
Yes I know that, but the 100% of owner input even in L1 and L2 still doesn't sound right. Where did you get that figure on 100% of owner input from? (Said this before, it would be really helpful if you'd link your sources when you make these kinds of claims).
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« Reply #4667 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 12:15:52 »

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Wages are 60% of income PLUS 100% of owner injections PLUS 100% of player sales PLUS 100% of cup money
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« Reply #4668 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 15:44:21 »

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Wages are 60% of income PLUS 100% of owner injections PLUS 100% of player sales PLUS 100% of cup money

Cheers. And, astonishingly, you're correct.

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial-fair-play-regulations/

Not astonished you're correct, but astonished that this is permitted. What *isn't* permitted is including loans or conversions of debt to equity as revenue to offset debt, but as you quite correctly said if an owner wants to drop £20m into a club, they can do that and it will count toward their revenue as part of the salary cap. I guess in the case of the stadium sellers they didn't want to just bung money in without any recall, so selling the stadium to themselves gives them an asset to be used as bargaining chip in any future sale (or administration) as opposed to a straight donation
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« Reply #4669 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 15:52:29 »

Yeah, itís very strange indeed. All the comments on a proposed salary cap have virtually all said, myself included, were a cap isnít needed the EFL just need to monitor the present 60% t/o to wages ratio correctly.

Turns out, itís all bollocks anyway.
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« Reply #4670 on: Saturday, July 18, 2020, 16:02:05 »

Yeah, itís very strange indeed. All the comments on a proposed salary cap have virtually all said, myself included, were a cap isnít needed the EFL just need to monitor the present 60% t/o to wages ratio correctly.

Turns out, itís all bollocks anyway.
Absolutely. So actually all they need to do is implement a proper %age salary cap and then monitor it. Neither are going to happen are they? Anything they introduce will just be lip service with enough loopholes to drive a coach and horses through
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« Reply #4671 on: Monday, July 20, 2020, 15:33:55 »

Charlton now under a new contract registration embargo.

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/lee-bowyer-embargo-means-charlton-athletic-cannot-offer-contracts-to-senior-players/
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« Reply #4672 on: Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 09:24:35 »

This was an interesting yet sad and depressing listen...

https://play.acast.com/s/footballramble/bookclub-blackandblue-paulcanoville
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« Reply #4673 on: Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 10:30:10 »

This was an interesting yet sad and depressing listen...

https://play.acast.com/s/footballramble/bookclub-blackandblue-paulcanoville

I've got this in my list of podcasts to play. Should get onto that this week, possibly today or tomorrow.
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« Reply #4674 on: Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 14:25:23 »

Not really wrong as such, but interesting...

Wolves goals have been scored by 12 players this season, none of whom are from the UK.
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« Reply #4675 on: Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 23:04:56 »

Commentators who keep on saying 'oh I bet Jackie Charlton would've loved to have seen this day' when regarding Leeds being in the top flight again. I'm pretty certain he saw Leeds go into the top flight at least four times (twice whilst playing and twice as a spectator). Then again, nothing exists pre 1992 does it?

I also didn't realise Leeds Utd are only 100 years (101 in October) young. A fairly young club comparative to many more and despite their fans being cunts, they have quite a concentrated amount of success when weighted against their length of existence. Not a bad ratiooo.
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« Reply #4676 on: Thursday, July 23, 2020, 07:59:26 »

Leeds United were formed 100 years ago, but Iím fairly certain there was a Leeds city before them who were quite successful but went bust because of financial irregularities and Leeds United were formed in their place
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« Reply #4677 on: Thursday, July 23, 2020, 08:43:17 »

Yeah, Town LEGEND Herbert Chapman managed their final years.

Leeds City were a relatively young club (compared to others) themselves when they dissolved.
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« Reply #4678 on: Thursday, July 23, 2020, 08:54:55 »

Yeah, Town LEGEND Herbert Chapman managed their final years.
Legend...yes, Town legend, might be pushing it a bit! Smiley
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« Reply #4679 on: Thursday, July 23, 2020, 15:20:52 »

Birmingham retiring the 22 shirt for Jude Bellingham.

Fucking idiots.
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