that bloke the police shot

[Kinky Tom]

well i read in the news paper that police found details on him in one of the bags that were going to be blown up.

So police were in survaillance on his house for 24hrs and followed him out of his house.

By this time aparantly he was wearing a jacket and they thought he was wearing a bomb under neath this so there direct orders were shoot to kill.

By this time they has shouted "police, STOP!" and the man started running and then what happened, happened!!!

DON'T quote me on this

Oops, sorry.

[Piemonte]

well i read in the news paper that police found details on him in one of the bags that were going to be blown up.

So police were in survaillance on his house for 24hrs and followed him out of his house.

By this time aparantly he was wearing a jacket and they thought he was wearing a bomb under neath this so there direct orders were shoot to kill.

By this time they has shouted "police, STOP!" and the man started running and then what happened, happened!!!

DON'T quote me on this

Consider yourself quoted  

[Piemonte]

Damn yous Tom   :nono:  :angry:

[Kinky Tom]

Beat you for once.

[Piemonte]

... well its about time really

[pauld]

Brazillian police shoot 30 people a day.


Perspective lefties eh?

Well, if you want to play that game, they have a suicide bombing on the scale of the London attacks somwhere in Iraq every day. None of which minimises the tragic impact on the families of the victims - sorry but you can't do "perspective" on awful events like this.

No, you really can. I dont think its a tragedy, its entirley his own fault he's dead.

I dont know him or his family and I dont feel the slightest sadness towards what happend. The police made a split second decision which I believe was correct given the information they had at the time.  end of.

To use perspective-  whats better?  one idiots life or the 50 lifes that would have been taken if he had been a suicde bomber

You've missed the point - the comparison I was drawing was between daily suicide bombings in Iraq and one attack (or four, depending on your point of view)  in London, not between the death of the Brazilian guy and the deaths in the London attack. The point being that SW had said that cos Brazilian police shoot 30 people a day this put the bloke being shot in some kind of "perspective" which I don't think it does anymore than the fact that there a lot more of these kind of attacks in Iraq (or for example that there were a lot more deaths in the recent attack in Egypt) puts the deaths in the London attack into "perspective". The tragedies arising from these atrocities are not a numbers game.

[pauld]

sorry but you can't do "perspective" on awful events like this.

Erm, this last bit is clearly bollocks. Of course you can and should try and get a perspective on events such as this. What I meant was that a straight numeric comparison isn't really valid when it comes to loss of innocent life. Apologies for any confusion (mainly confused myself I think)

[Spencer_White]

Yeah youve got suicide attacks in Iraq. So how many are the police shooting over there then? Fucking loads I will bet.

I think its a wonder how more people ARE NOT being shot by police at the present time.

The man was a fool. This was not 'an awful event' its a reality of modern policing against a formidable enemy.

[pauld]

I think its a wonder how more people ARE NOT being shot by police at the present time.

The man was a fool. This was not 'an awful event' its a reality of modern policing against a formidable enemy.

Oh, well that's all right then.

[Asher]

Fuck it pauld, lets leave them all to bomb us, come back when ytour family gets killed and then praise the police for not stopping them.  You knob jock

[Spencer_White]

Mistakes will be made. But its the greater good that counts.

We cant have these bastards taking the piss out of us.

[Anonymous]

What are you on "pauld". Drugs by judging by the vial crap you are spreading

[pauld]

Get a grip Asher and baconer. I've already said elsewhere that I agree the coppers in the incident had little choice and, faced with an awful decision, acted as they thought best - I'm not criticising the fact that they opened fire on what they genuinely believed to be a suicide bomber. All I said was that Spencer's glib dismissal of the killing of an innocent man on the grounds that the coppers in Brazil are a bunch of brutal bastards didn't make it any less tragic that another innocent bloke died because of a situation created by terrorists. Fuck's sake.

[reeves4england]

OKAY. Lets settle this. You are an armed police officer, and you are following a suspected terrorist. You follow him through London. He waits for a bus but when one isn't going to come he heads for the tube. You confront him and tell him to stop. He sees/hears you and vaults the barrier at a tube station, running onto a train. He may have a bomb on him, and you don't kow how the bomb could be detonated.

Do you stand there and arrest him taking the risk of you and many others being blown up, or do you shoot him?

His family have said he was given no warning and that he was shot for no apparent reason. How do they know? Were they there?! NO!

[Asher]

post finished, enough said RFE