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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:19:36 »

Exceptional work from Osborne mugging off 'Wallace and Gromit'
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:22:39 »

Any extension planned on stamp duty exemption for First Time Buyers?  Not going to complete by 24/03/2012 so looks I'm going to be paying this.  Working people's budget my arse.

Why not cut child benefit?  Something which was introduced to help swell the population after it dwindled after WWII.  In 2012, living in overcrowded Britain, why do we need to provide people incentives to have offspring?  If you want a sprog, fucking pay for it.  This might make jobless slags think twice before getting themselves knocked up and demanding a house....

As you can see, I'm a liberal leftie...
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:24:25 »

Any extension planned on stamp duty exemption for First Time Buyers? 

Nope. Already covered SDLT. No mention of an extension.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:24:43 »

Nope. Already covered SDLT. No mention of an extension.

Bollocks.
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:31:32 »

Child benefit is not an incentive to have kids.  It's a small recognition of the additional costs parents incur in bringing up children and goes a very small way towards offsetting some of those costs.  When some folk without kids do put forward the argument that the state should not contribute (via a contribution from taxation) to any of the costs of bringing up the next generation, it conveniently ignores the fact that everyone, regardless of whether they have children or not, has a stake in the next generation.  Simply put...when you're 85 and living in a care home, who's going to be wiping your arse for you?  No man (or woman) is an island.  Child benefit is an excellent example of redistributing income to folk who need it more for the betterment of society as a whole.  It's a real shame it's being messed about with.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:34:48 »

Child benefit is not an incentive to have kids.  It's a recognition of the additional costs parents incur in bringing up children and goes a very small way towards offsetting some of those costs.  When folk with kids do put forward the argument that the state should not contribute (via a contribution from taxation) to any of the costs of bringing up the next generation, it conveniently ignores the fact that everyone, regardless of whether they have children or not, has a stake in the next generation.  Simply put...when you're 85 and living in a care home, who's going to be wiping your arse for you?  No man (or woman) is an island.  Child benefit is an excellent example of redistributing income to folk who need it more for the betterment of society as a whole.  It's a real shame it's being messed about with.
I fully agree, and I was the one who actually bought it up, however, walrus does have a point, in this current me me me society, CB, along with a number of benefit schemes are being abused, by lazy goodfornothing spongers...
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:35:46 »

Vote Labour
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:39:22 »

"Budget" not "Election" arriba  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:41:24 »

"Budget" not "Election" arriba  Smiley

Really? oh silly me
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:41:40 »

Vote Labour
I'm a good old fashioned leftie but Labour are completely unelectable
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:45:41 »

I'm a good old fashioned leftie but Labour are completely unelectable

Certainly while they've got this twerp Miliband in charge
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:47:58 »

Any worse than the current condem mob? they feather their own nest as today shows.
Rich get richer
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:50:44 »

Any worse than the current condem mob? they feather their own nest as today shows.
Rich get richer
I have to agree.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:52:32 »

So if child benefit was scrapped tomorrow, would people stop having children?

How will today's children purchase a house with the housing market ever increasing, lenders increasingly fussy and student loans growing to excessive proportions?  I've only managed to get on the housing ladder due to assistance from my parents (they're remortgaging and I subsequently pay two lenders - risky in the extreme).

Everything that the ministers in government benefitted from as young men are being taken away, piece by piece, leaving only the very rich and the have nots to profit.
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:58:25 »

Any worse than the current condem mob? they feather their own nest as today shows.
Rich get richer

All the main parties feather their own nest, you must know that by now?
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