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« Reply #75 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 20:47:01 » |
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If people want to get a degree they should have to pay for it. If I want something I have to pay for it.
The best way to get people to pay for their degree is through taxes and taxes alone. The main reason for someone getting a degree is to help them get a better job. If they get a better job they'll earn more money and pay more taxes. If they don't get a better job they won't earn more and won't pay more taxes. Plus a better educated population means more companies will be attracted to the UK, bringing investment and jobs. Everyone wins.
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #76 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 20:54:43 » |
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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 22:09:45 » |
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Watching the news, it just looked like a bunch of great unwashed, anti-capitalist pricks to me, which is usually the case at such demos.
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Samdy Gray
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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 22:11:57 » |
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Haha, I was thinking of the exact same thing earlier Si.
"Why are you crying mate? Is it because you have no food, no money, no home?" "It is none of those things, there are people in England who only get their wheelie bins collected once a fortnight!"
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tans
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« Reply #79 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 22:39:42 » |
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Section 60's anyone?
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #80 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:07:56 » |
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There is that. But like what Phil_S say, they have raised the minimum level of income before the students pay back any loans. So the students will be getting more for it in the end anyway. With £6K (i think) difference between today's payment threshold and the future lowest level of paying money back, the future graduates could effectively pay off a whole years worth of tuition and still have as much money as recent graduates have before they are taxed/pay back.
Today : £15k repayment threshold (so the graduates are gettin less than £15k after repayment of some of their loan. Future: £21k repayment threshold , £6k fees. The graduates can pay the whole £6k off and still have more money than todays graduates after repayment.
That's not right. For one they'd pay more tax and NI than a student on £15k. Also the SL repayments are not deducted before tax.
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Crispy
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« Reply #81 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:11:24 » |
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Yet when the EDL stand up for something they're called racist 
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« Reply #82 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:18:04 » |
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that'll be because they are racists
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« Reply #83 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:19:36 » |
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I'm sure the students would be the first to admit to being Toryist.
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« Reply #84 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:41:08 » |
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Yet when the EDL stand up for something they're called racist  Crispy fucking hell mate, stop talking about the EDL. Join the ginger equality brigade or something. You know what its like to be in that minority.
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #85 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:51:43 » |
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Yet when the EDL stand up for something they're called racist  What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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« Reply #86 on: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 23:56:48 » |
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Yet when the EDL stand up for something they're called racist  Erm because they are?? Give it a rest ffs
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« Reply #87 on: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 08:48:50 » |
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Yet when the EDL stand up for something they're called racist  I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt...young, still working things out etc...but then clueless comments like that make it clear that you're confused and you just don't get it. I know I've said this before, but most people will cut you some slack with all this because you're 16. If you're still at it when you're 19 or 20, they won't.
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« Reply #88 on: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 08:55:14 » |
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Quite enjoyed watching Cameron on the news last night lecturing Chinese students on how Western democracy was the only way to guarantee stability and prosperity. While back home, our own students were rioting and trashing his party HQ in protests at cuts imposed because of a fucked economy  At least one group got their message home yesterday anyway: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11291616And what more vivid demonstration of their point than Tory HQ being trashed in cuts-related disorder? The cynic in me might wonder why it took so long for the Met to get any kind of reinforcements there
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« Reply #89 on: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 09:02:32 » |
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Any student that has attacked a police officer, or caused criminal damage needs the book thrown at them.
If this was a football protest there would be no excuses...
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If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit...
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