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« on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:16:44 » |
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I see the story about the gay couple being turned away from a B&B is back in the news, this is the original for anyone that missed it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stmI'm with the owners of the B&B - if they don't want gay people in their B&B then it should be up to them and they shouldn't have it forced on them by the law. Provided they handle it the right way and in this case it looks like they did, they turned them away politely and gave them a refund, then where is the problem? Especially as it sounds like it was just them sharing a room that was the issue and they'd have been happy if they had separate rooms. What annoys me most though is that if I went away with a few mates there are plenty of places that wouldn't give us rooms due to their no all male parties rule. If we went to the Police to complain they'd tell us to fuck off. But if we went to the Police and told them we were gay they'd step in. Which is just fucking crazy.
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:24:43 » |
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I'm with the B&B owners on this one.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:25:24 » |
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I see the story about the gay couple being turned away from a B&B is back in the news, this is the original for anyone that missed it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stmI'm with the owners of the B&B - if they don't want gay people in their B&B then it should be up to them and they shouldn't have it forced on them by the law. Provided they handle it the right way and in this case it looks like they did, they turned them away politely and gave them a refund, then where is the problem? Especially as it sounds like it was just them sharing a room that was the issue and they'd have been happy if they had separate rooms. What annoys me most though is that if I went away with a few mates there are plenty of places that wouldn't give us rooms due to their no all male parties rule. If we went to the Police to complain they'd tell us to fuck off. But if we went to the Police and told them we were gay they'd step in. Which is just fucking crazy. Homophobe...
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:27:02 » |
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being gay is sooo last year.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:28:25 » |
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Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem.
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Tout ce que je sais de plus sūr ą propos de la moralité et des obligations des hommes, c'est au football que je le dois. - Albert Camus
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:29:09 » |
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Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem.
Bang on. Very well put.
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:29:59 » |
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Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem.
Replace black with people who can't use the apostrophe correctly....
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:31:05 » |
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what about black gay people?
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:32:54 » |
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what about black gay people?
Not, if they can't use the apostrophe correctly....
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:37:40 » |
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Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem.
The difference is that they didn't have a problem with the gay couple staying at their B&B, they just didn't want them sharing a room due to their religious beliefs. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but surely other people have a right to their own beliefs and not have other's beliefs forced upon them? Though given their beliefs maybe running a B&B isn't their best career choice. I'm no homophobe. Years ago when I was contracting I stayed in B&Bs during the week for a couple of years, the best one I ever stayed in (in fact the best B&B ever) was run by a gay couple. If they'd told me they didn't want me and my girlfriend staying there it wouldn't have bothered me, I'd have just respected their right to choose.
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:39:03 » |
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Maybe it's not that they have a problem with gay people, rather they have a problem with THOSE gay people.
Would you let either one of those into you home even if they were on there own?
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:40:45 » |
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The difference is that they didn't have a problem with the gay couple staying at their B&B, they just didn't want them sharing a room due to their religious beliefs. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but surely other people have a right to their own beliefs and not have other's beliefs forced upon them? Though given their beliefs maybe running a B&B isn't their best career choice.
I'm no homophobe. Years ago when I was contracting I stayed in B&Bs during the week for a couple of years, the best one I ever stayed in (in fact the best B&B ever) was run by a gay couple. If they'd told me they didn't want me and my girlfriend staying there it wouldn't have bothered me, I'd have just respected their right to choose.
It's not very complicated, it's called prejudice. That's all.
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:41:53 » |
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Not, if they can't use the apostrophe correctly....
Commas, on the other hand, you're relaxed about.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:42:42 » |
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It's not very complicated, it's called prejudice. That's all.
OK. So if a B&B turns away a group of 4 (straight) males due to a "no all male parties" rule, should that be illegal as well?
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:47:19 » |
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Turning away groups of lads because things like stag doss and stuff tend to be a fair bit of trouble is a big world away from banning a group of people because of their sexuality.
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