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« on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:10:06 »

For the past few months I have been writing and my work has always been accepted gladly without complaint. Throughout this time I would not have been able to identify a noun or verb if I was smacked in the boat by one.

Whilst looking writing work online, I have been asked to do a couple of tests which ask questions like "Identify proper noun useage" or whatever. What a bunch of crap because not being able to identify a noun does not mean that I don't know how to use one. Then they start asking things like "Correct the predicate useage in this sentence" to which I could only reply: "Tell me what the fuck a predicate is first and I will".

Stupid language, do you know your nouns and stuff?

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:15:49 »

I know quite a number of grammatical terms, but learned most of them in French and Latin lessons at school.  I don't really remember learning any grammar in English lessons.
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:19:33 »

Get some help at http://www.askoxford.com/ - the best thing to come out of Oxford, along with the A420.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:38:47 »

what sort of stuff do you write dude?
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:13:29 »

For the past few months I have been writing and my work has always been accepted gladly without complaint. Throughout this time I would not have been able to identify a noun or verb if I was smacked in the boat by one.

Whilst looking writing work online, I have been asked to do a couple of tests which ask questions like "Identify proper noun useage" or whatever. What a bunch of crap because not being able to identify a noun does not mean that I don't know how to use one. Then they start asking things like "Correct the predicate useage in this sentence" to which I could only reply: "Tell me what the fuck a predicate is first and I will".

Stupid language, do you know your nouns and stuff?



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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:29:20 »

Really?  Soapy Tit Wank

If Barry was paying me to post then I'd give a shit.

I don't do anything exciting or glamorous Dave, it is mostly just stuff for web content or blogs. A lot of it involves writing on stuff that I know little to nothing about and having done the job myself, I can now recognise just how much utter crap and stuffing there is on the net written by clueless people like myself.

The pay can be either quite good or extremely shite depending on who the buyer is. I am tinkering with the idea of doing something more creative and am reading into ghost writing but I'll just wait and see how that pans out.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 15:31:40 »

Im doing English Language AS at college, so we have to be fairly clued up on all the terminology. I actually have to write whole courseworks saying shit like "oh this is a concrete noun" and "this uses an abstract noun", and "the author uses modal auxiliaries" ... basically oxford (excuse my foul language) english grammar Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 15:41:20 »

Im doing Enlgish Language AS at college

You ever thought of becoming a brickie or something?
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 15:45:20 »

For the past few months I have been writing and my work has always been accepted gladly without complaint. Throughout this time I would not have been able to identify a noun or verb if I was smacked in the boat by one.

Whilst looking writing work online, I have been asked to do a couple of tests which ask questions like "Identify proper noun useage" or whatever. What a bunch of crap because not being able to identify a noun does not mean that I don't know how to use one. Then they start asking things like "Correct the predicate useage in this sentence" to which I could only reply: "Tell me what the fuck a predicate is first and I will".

Stupid language, do you know your nouns and stuff?



I despised English at school and pretty much until i was in my final year, i couldn't even punctuate. Although i think it was more a case of couldn't be bothered to punctuate. I decided if i was going to get a GCSE, i should learn, so i did and got a C. I still haven't got a clue what a noun, verb, adjective and what not is, but eh?
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 15:51:37 »

I despise'd Englishing at skool and pretty much until i was my final year in., i could'nt even punctuate: Although i think it was more a case of coul'dnt be; bothered to. punctuate, I derided if i was going to get a CGES, i "should learn" so i did and got a C. I still haven't got a clue what a nun, veg, adje and what not is, but eh?

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 16:10:00 »

You're not far off jj. For years i used to write using the following self-made rules.

*Every 2 lines, have a full stop followed by a capital letter.
*Down the middle of the page have commas on every line.
*Every 10 lines begin a new paragraph.

I'm learning to speak foreign at the moment, so i should really try to understand verbs and what not, because linguaphone might make more sense.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 22:48:02 »

It's easy.

Nouns are things.

Verbs are doing words.

Adjectives are describing words.

Adverbs are a bit in the middle.

Past participles, predicates and all that shit are irrelevant.

English is easy  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 20:32:37 »

It's easy.

Nouns are things.

Verbs are doing words.

Adjectives are describing words.

Adverbs are a bit in the middle.

Past participles, predicates and all that shit are irrelevant.

English is easy  Cheesy

Or 'being' words

Adjectives describe nouns  eg 'red'  he wore a 'red' shirt

Adverbs describe verbs  eg  'quickly'   he ran 'quickly'
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 21:20:05 »

Does my head in, I did any English degree but never have understood the point of being able to identify various parts of a sentence...  I suppose I can see use for it when learning particular languages (helped with German) but when it's your native language, as long as you can spell and don't write like an utter mong who cares?  My boss at work today wrote the phrase "this is very undermining to the team as a whole"...  Grr twat.  I hate the use of the word "very" or "extremely" unless it's necessary...  it's either undermining or it's not.  It can't be very undermining you cunt...

Sorry went off on a tangent there...  I looked into doing your job BR but basically what I've learnt is nowadays your best bet is to leave school as soon as possible and get into the working environment.  Qualifications will get you nowhere, unless maybe you manage a degree from Oxbridge.  I'm an English graduate, with good grades, I've done various jobs (albeit basic student-type jobs) and I'm working in...  yes, a callcentre.  Okay, a glorified call centre selling car insurance, but it's still effectively telesales, and it seems impossible to get on a graduate scheme or get a job where I'll ever pay back my legions of debt...  I now seem trapped in insurance, which I can live with, but worse still, I seem trapped in sales...

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 22:28:28 »

You ever thought of becoming a brickie or something?

...that would involve some hard graft. Arty-Farty bastards don't know what that is.

English is a stupid subject. Look, I can speak it just as well as (i'd say better than) the guy before me, and probably after me, but i only have a GCSE in the thing. Uh Oh, my life is doomed. Shit.

Are they short of stewards in the TE?

Oh, and i have never known the difference between a noun/adverb/adjective - for some reason, they never asked 'what is the noun in the sentence' at GCSE.
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