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« Reply #30 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 16:49:29 »

I got asked a while ago, but just said 'Buy it yourself', and went in the shop to buy beer for me.
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« Reply #31 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:45:11 »

I buy booze for my under aged children if they ask me (for parties or friends coming round etc). Which they have done now and again in the past. No problem. I have allowed them all alcohol for years as I would rather they were exposed to, and feel comfortable with it rather than asking some fucking weird forum posting passer by to get it for them.

We went to Greece a few years back and my eldest lad was 14. His big moment was going off to the bar on the ferry after we had just woken up and buying himself a bottle of Heineken with no questions asked. He drank it slowly of his own accord. A very proud moment for me.
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« Reply #32 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:48:28 »

My Dad did the same with me Alan and it's definitely the way I'll be bringing up my kids.
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« Reply #33 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:50:29 »

My Dad did the same with me Alan and it's definitely the way I'll be bringing up my kids.

So did my dad Sam.

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« Reply #34 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:53:28 »

I buy booze for my under aged children if they ask me (for parties or friends coming round etc). Which they have done now and again in the past. No problem. I have allowed them all alcohol for years as I would rather they were exposed to, and feel comfortable with it rather than asking some fucking weird forum posting passer by to get it for them.

We went to Greece a few years back and my eldest lad was 14. His big moment was going off to the bar on the ferry after we had just woken up and buying himself a bottle of Heineken with no questions asked. He drank it slowly of his own accord. A very proud moment for me.

Thats fair enough Talk Talk...thats ok untill your 14 year old daughter goes round someones house...i certainly wouldnt have wanted her friends parents giving her booze at that age...we all have different values and not knocking yours............but i would never have baught booze for my kids or there friends...not even at 16..................your facing some serious consequences if something goes wrong or there is an accident.
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« Reply #35 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:56:20 »

To be fair if Talk Talk trusts his kid to not be a dickhead then there's now't wrong
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« Reply #36 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 21:59:22 »

I can see leefer's point about giving other people's kids alcohol, but I personally don't see the harm in allowing them a little bit. It's not as if Alan was trying to get them pissed.
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« Reply #37 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:01:07 »

Its the Dickheads she or he may be with though...always trusted my kids,we all do dont we...its the others though.
As i said i learnt long ago not to preach on such matters,we are all different,my problem is i tend to look at the negatives with regards such matters...in truth things rarely go wrong.
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« Reply #38 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:04:25 »

Thats fair enough Talk Talk...thats ok untill your 14 year old daughter goes round someones house...i certainly wouldnt have wanted her friends parents giving her booze at that age...we all have different values and not knocking yours............but i would never have baught booze for my kids or there friends...not even at 16..................your facing some serious consequences if something goes wrong or there is an accident.

With respect, that is the problem, isn't it.

If you treat your children as adults then they will respond accordingly. I never sent my 14 year old daughter out to parties with booze, I agree, that is just foolish. But there is no reason why she shouldn't have had a glass or two of wine with her dinner at that age. Or my boys having a bottle of Bud with their food. At 16 you can go out to work, do all manner of things and so on and I don't see any problem with letting them have alcohol for parties etc because they have had a few years to accept that it is no big deal.

If you deny them it and treat it as taboo then sure as eggs are small ovoid fledgeling containers as soon as they get the opportunity they will try it and probably drink in excess and then that is the point of greatest danger.

I will concur to some extent though - if my under aged children ever have somebody to stay for dinner I don't offer their friends drink as it is not up to me to second guess their parents wishes or feelings on it.
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« Reply #39 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:12:43 »

I agree to an extent...my feelings are with regards drink,drugs and even driving they should do these things when they are old enough....the reason being i didnt have parental guidance on such matters and struggled with certain things as i grew up...its probably the reason i am/was abit negative about it....i certainly hope you dont think i was havin a go cos i wasnt.
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« Reply #40 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:14:33 »

So surely the point is with a bit of parental guidance we grow up better and learn?
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« Reply #41 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:22:49 »

I agree to an extent...my feelings are with regards drink,drugs and even driving they should do these things when they are old enough....the reason being i didnt have parental guidance on such matters and struggled with certain things as i grew up...its probably the reason i am/was abit negative about it....i certainly hope you dont think i was havin a go cos i wasnt.

No, not at all. It's fine.

It is all just life experience I think. My parent's approach worked on me and I have passed that on.

Ha ha - a while back I took three of my children out to Wroughton aerodrome when they were 14, 12 and 10 and got them driving around the airfield in my Mini (with me sat in the passenger seat, obviously). A great car to do that in as the clutch is easy to control. They loved it. Funnily enough my dad did that to me as well when I was small.

Not very keen on drugs though, tbh.
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« Reply #42 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:27:04 »

Well it sounds like you have fun with your family....good on yer.
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« Reply #43 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:51:37 »

I agree to an extent...my feelings are with regards drink,drugs and even driving they should do these things when they are old enough....

Who's to say other than you when your kid is old enough or responsible enough to have a drink, Leefer? What we do in this regard with our kids in our own houses is up to us, surely?

I don't give a fuck what the law says, kids should be able have a glass of wine or a small beer if they want one as they mature and move into adulthood. A kid that's used to a tipple now and then is far less likely to go pissing it up on the snide, IMHO.

Sounds like TT has it about right with his family Wink
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« Reply #44 on: Friday, October 2, 2009, 22:53:45 »

i have offered my kids a drink,but the little cunts just want my cocaine instead.
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