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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 08:46:15 »

When I was that age my mates and I were always messing around with bb guns etc. I wouldnt know where to get a real gun but I would love one. It was all downhill after I owned a supersoaker
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 08:53:37 »

Is it any different to them playing a "shooting" game on a PC or console ?

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 08:55:14 »

there was a lad in my school who shot guns when he was young.

micheal ryan.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 09:05:36 »

the hungerford geezer?
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 09:07:50 »

There were approx 20 boys in my school who shot guns, including me and none of us turned into Michal Ryan. There are over 150,000 registered firearms owners in the UK and none of them turned into Michael Ryan.

Your argument could stand for anything and anyone.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 09:09:40 »

My step-mum is a relation of Ryan apparently.
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 09:15:59 »

There were approx 20 boys in my school who shot guns, including me and none of us turned into Michal Ryan. There are over 150,000 registered firearms owners in the UK and none of them turned into Michael Ryan.

Your argument could stand for anything and anyone.

I'm sure there was a "whoosh" smiley thingie somewhere
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 09:16:45 »

 Smiley it wasnt an arguement, just a fact.
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:06:47 »

a friend of mine as been ill in hospital and although I'm used to parents unable, or unwilling to control their children.  I was agog at childrens behaviour in the wards. 

To be fair, the parents concerned didn't know how to conduct themselves so what chance the children?
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:18:37 »

There were approx 20 boys in my school who shot guns, including me and none of us turned into Michal Ryan. There are over 150,000 registered firearms owners in the UK and none of them turned into Michael Ryan.

Your argument could stand for anything and anyone.

Thomas Hamilton did.
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:27:42 »

I also see what the kids are like in this instance and the parents and it just makes me think.
Is this perhaps a case that it's more the people than the behaviour you're tutting at? This bit makes me think there's some prior history here and it's more a case that you don't trust these kids/parents to behave responsibly with guns (or anything much). Would you feel the same way if it was the local vicar showing his kids how to shoot at cans?
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:46:56 »

I think we are forgetting the innocent victims in this sorry story, what have the Cans ever done to deserve being shot at?
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:03:56 »

My step-mum is a relation of Ryan apparently.
Two things link me to that day:  I was a member of the same gun club as him (tunnel club in Devizes) and was in Hungerford when it happened.

If there was anything good to come out of that day it was a change in policy that allowed the Police to shoot a suspect who had previously killed and was deemed likely to continue killing even if he didn't pose an immediate threat... ie. we could shoot him in the back if we considered he was still intent on killing...

With regard to supervised use of guns... if they learn the dangers and the consequences they are less likely to consider the gun a toy and are more likely to avoid situations that require one
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:58:07 »

Is this perhaps a case that it's more the people than the behaviour you're tutting at? This bit makes me think there's some prior history here and it's more a case that you don't trust these kids/parents to behave responsibly with guns (or anything much). Would you feel the same way if it was the local vicar showing his kids how to shoot at cans?

P2P was scared that he is gonna get a cap popped in his ass !!!
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:14:34 »

With regard to supervised use of guns... if they learn the dangers and the consequences they are less likely to consider the gun a toy and are more likely to avoid situations that require one
So, shoot them and inflict a minor flesh wound early doors then?
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