channel 4 911 programme

[Simon Pieman]

I don't think anyone who says the people who organised and executed the 9/11 events were right as such, just that in their own mind they were doing it for a cause. That cause may be unjust but but it doesn't hide the fact it wasn't done purely for the fuck of it.

On the flip side bombing the shit out of Afghanistan/war on terror may be seen as a noble cause but it killed thousands of innocent people and plenty of soldiers and they still haven't caught and killed Bin Laden. In some ways it's worse than the Twin Tower killings but the impact on western society may be far less because we are far removed from it and don't have a similar documentary to highlight the impact.

I completely agree the US needed to retaliate and do something against Bin Laden but the way they and other countries have gone about it wasn't the right way.

[deltaincline]

I completely agree the US needed to retaliate and do something against Bin Laden but the way they and other countries have gone about it wasn't the right way.

Do you honestly think Bin Laden was behind 911 then, Si?

Fuck all the youtube conspiracy theories, just go and look at the footage and ask yourself why building 7 came down later that day.

In one lump.

From the bottom down.

After a relatively small fire took place.

And why the BBC were reporting that building 7 had collapsed on a late afternoon emergency news broadcast. While it could clearly be seen still standing in the backgound as the broadcast went out. Live.

And while your at it; cast your mind back to every plane crash site footage you've ever seen on news reels. What's left of the landing gear, the engines and tail section usually feature.

The wings of the planes on WTC 1 and 2 cut a wide hole in the building as they hit.

The Pentagon plane crash? Nah, fuck all. No engines, no landing gear or wheels and no tail section.

The Pentagon its self? A small hole in the front of the building. No wide impact damage, no damaged, smouldering wings in the wreckage.

Oh, and no CCTV footage

Fuck it, lets blame some bearded cunt that the west installed and armed in the first place. Everyone will buy that.

God  Bless America. Yee Ha

 

[sheepshagger]

What are you suggesting then Delta ?  That the US deliberately sent planes into their own towers, and sent a plane into the Pentagon, killing an awful lot of local innocent people, just to stir up anti Muslim feeling so they could in some way justify Iraq ?

Are you REALLY suggesting that ?!?!?

[Arriba]

if he is, he wont be the first

[Don Rogers Shop]

If you really want to you could believe any conspiracy you want.To be honest it don't matter the program was about the innocent people who died a horrific death not about a conspiracy theory.

[Arriba]

yeah man

[tans]

i actually had the old eyes welling up watching that last night

[Don Rogers Shop]

yeah man

That's far out

[magicroundabout]

last nights was very hard hitting.

i think i sat for 2 hours without saying a word or moving off my seat.

[ghanimah]

Anyone who thinks 9/11 is a Govt conspiracy needs to go and boil their head.

Interesting that 9/11 is America's emergency services number, and the date tomorrow is 9/9/9, Perhaps we should be a little more careful tomorrow?

[magicroundabout]

Anyone who thinks 9/11 is a Govt conspiracy needs to go and boil their head.

ok. so show me on this photo where the wings hit the building?

[url width=900 height=479]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/pentagon_347626.jpg[/url]

and if they hit the bottom then why is there no marks from the plane on the ground as surely it would have touched the grass whilst hitting the building that low?

not saying it's the government but i can't see how a plane did this damage.

[Simon Pieman]

Well they found plane wreckage at the pentagon and there are photos on the internet to prove it. The buildings collapsed like that due to their structure, one of the towers didn't drop straight down. People love a good conspiracy and most of it is based on utter rubbish and chinese whispers, which is easier to do with the internet.

Even if Bin Laden wasn't behind the attacks he claimed he was and thus added to his terrorist powers in the process.

[stfctownenda]

Do you honestly think Bin Laden was behind 911 then, Si?

Fuck all the youtube conspiracy theories, just go and look at the footage and ask yourself why building 7 came down later that day.

In one lump.

From the bottom down.

After a relatively small fire took place.

And why the BBC were reporting that building 7 had collapsed on a late afternoon emergency news broadcast. While it could clearly be seen still standing in the backgound as the broadcast went out. Live.

And while your at it; cast your mind back to every plane crash site footage you've ever seen on news reels. What's left of the landing gear, the engines and tail section usually feature.

The wings of the planes on WTC 1 and 2 cut a wide hole in the building as they hit.

The Pentagon plane crash? Nah, fuck all. No engines, no landing gear or wheels and no tail section.

The Pentagon its self? A small hole in the front of the building. No wide impact damage, no damaged, smouldering wings in the wreckage.

Oh, and no CCTV footage

Fuck it, lets blame some bearded cunt that the west installed and armed in the first place. Everyone will buy that.

God  Bless America. Yee Ha

 

Conspiracies are interesting really as all of this paints the west as the bad guys who would clearly do anything to get money, power and oil when in reality in the middle east we have left Iraq and there still blowing up there own people, they still attack there own people in Afghanistan.  

There is a section of people in the arabic nations that don't ever want to modernise or move to a society where people get more of an opinion, just look at Iran where they had a dodgy election to say the least and when people tried to protest they were beaten and arrested.

Too many lifes were lost that day and the history of stuff that happened between west and east in the past can only stop when people leave it where it belongs in the past and move on together and all get along.  Many people do this now and we live in a much more diverse society but these minority of idiots still exist and still have there heart set on killing many people, they still need to be stopped.

[ghanimah]

If the plane didn't hit the Pentagon then where did it and the 64 passengers go? The pilot got lost and went through the Bermuda Triangle perhaps?

[magicroundabout]

the pentagon was also being refurbished at the time so any plane debres that needed to be place could have been quite easily.

and i still stand by that it wasn't a pane that hit the pentagon.
no amature pilot could fly a plane that low into the pentagon without touching the ground first.