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« Reply #15 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 20:28:15 » |
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« Reply #16 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 20:38:11 » |
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It's no different, or even worse than, the countless amount of non-punished dives. Two wrongs don't make a right but in a sport like football it certainly should be highlighted because it is almost "witch hunt" like if one club is getting punished and others team are not.
If Eduardo missed the penalty would they have appealed to UEFA? Would UEFA had taken it seriously?
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« Reply #17 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 20:42:23 » |
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wenger is right about about other cases being ignored because the referee had made his decision.even when it's cut and dried stuff has been ignored for that reason. does this now mean everything wrong in the game will later be punished after tv evidence?i doubt it
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« Reply #18 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 21:03:50 » |
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What's odd is that Eduardo could get a two-match ban. But if the ref had spotted it at the time, he would've got a booking for it.
Therefore Eduardo is being punished for the referee's incompetence?
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« Reply #19 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 23:41:01 » |
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What's odd is that Eduardo could get a two-match ban. But if the ref had spotted it at the time, he would've got a booking for it.
Therefore Eduardo is being punished for the referee's incompetence?
I said the same to my Dad - it doesn't seem fair to have two different punishments for the same offence. The rules of football are generally quite strict on cheating because it is considered wrong - deliberate handball, professional fouls and the like - it makes you wonder whether a dive should be considered a sending off offence. Let's face it, a lot of dives occur in the penalty area to unfairly create a goalscoring opportunity, so why should the punishment be different to somebody who unfairly denies a goalscoring opportunity? The only problem is, you could see players being sent off when they were genuinely fouled, or if they tripped.
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« Reply #20 on: Friday, August 28, 2009, 23:49:39 » |
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If we are going back to games to dish out punishment, can Schumacher get a red card for his "tackle" in the 86 World Cup game? The simple answer to anyone diving is to give them a reason to be on the floor a little later in the game, surely? It still puzzles me why Ronaldo wasn't given a little kick into the front row of the stands more often.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 07:35:48 » |
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can Schumacher get a red card for his "tackle" in the 86 World Cup game?
Yeah and the Wolves keeper (forget his name) who kicked Alan Mayes' head off. In fact as a result of that perhaps we should be re-instated in the league cup instead of the horrible Wolves ? It is all a bit daft but none of this would be going on if Eduardo hadn't dived ! His own doing really !
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 07:51:36 » |
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Diving is cheating and, if this is a first step in stamping it out and all incidents start to be dealt with in the same way, I'm all for it. Start doling out 2 game bans and it'll stop, simple as that.
If it's isolated to this one incident, it'll make UEFA look even bigger cunts than they usually do.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 07:52:50 » |
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I would also like to point out Chalkie White was ruthlessly hacked down at Wembley in 1990 and is in no way implicated in this debate.
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 08:06:58 » |
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I would also like to point out Chalkie White was ruthlessly hacked down at Wembley in 1990 and is in no way implicated in this debate.
Indeed. The only connection here is a word associated one regarding Poole and diving ! (cue Friendly Fires)
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« Reply #25 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 08:49:32 » |
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Taking action against players diving should be left to the referee, or if they want to bring in the technology the fourth official on the match day, not by a committee after the event.
What's next? The ball crosses the line, the ref doesn't give it but two days later the result is changed to goal scored.
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« Reply #26 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 09:01:21 » |
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Taking action against players diving should be left to the referee, or if they want to bring in the technology the fourth official on the match day, not by a committee after the event.
What's next? The ball crosses the line, the ref doesn't give it but two days later the result is changed to goal scored.
No one has said the penalty won't stand. A goal scored is a goal scored. And your analogy of the ball crossing the line has nothing to do with what's being discussed, which is blatant cheating. If the ref doesn't see it, it doesn't mean it shouldn't go unpunished. Diving is rife in the game and needs to be stamped out, if managers knew there was a chance of losing a player for a couple of games they would ensure it didn't happen.
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« Reply #27 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 09:04:17 » |
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diving is a problem, but there are other problems equal and more important that go ignored. this has opened up a big can of worms now so where's the line going to be drawn?
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 09:08:50 » |
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One in the middle of the pitch, one all the way along the perimeter of the pitch and a few more around the goal area?
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 09:13:08 » |
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One in the middle of the pitch, one all the way along the perimeter of the pitch and a few more around the goal area?
Sounds good to me. Why don't we add some little curvy ones in the corner too, to make it seem less of an abrupt change of direction?
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