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« on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:31:51 » |
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Sory if it has been discussed before but they are looking at the law again in regards to this.
What are the thoughts of you lot then?
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Bob's Orange
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:42:43 » |
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Its legal in Luxembourg (I think)
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:47:42 » |
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i think it should be legalised for those with terminal illnesses. personal choice is definately the way forward.
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:48:10 » |
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i think it should be legalised for those with terminal illnesses. personal choice is definately the way forward.
I have to agree fully.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:48:43 » |
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Having watched some nearest and dearest suffer. I'm all for it. Death with dignity is the way to go. But and there is always a but, Intimedation (sp) will be a problem. Awful to think relations could talk people into suicide simply to make the familys lives easier.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:49:14 » |
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Being a nurse and having to face death and suffering a fair bit im on the fence! I think it does possibly have a place in society but it would have to be so strictly monitored. Some peoples reasons for suicide can be very questionable.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 09:54:47 » |
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You wouldn't let an animal suffer...
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 10:01:10 » |
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Being a nurse and having to face death and suffering a fair bit im on the fence! I think it does possibly have a place in society but it would have to be so strictly monitored. Some peoples reasons for suicide can be very questionable.
I'm sorry but the nurses were next to useless in my case. I don't know you and i have no wish to insult you but my dealings with you're profession as turned me against the nhs and coming from a long standing socialist this hasn't been easy to wright. Again no personal insult to DanJ intended.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 10:35:36 » |
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I think it could lead to further legal complications. Will an application need to be made and who will approve this? Will this take a long time? I think it's going to be difficult to make this workable in practice.
My main concern would be if it became more and more common, the NHS would push this instead of treatment in order to free up resources.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 10:48:19 » |
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I'm sorry but the nurses were next to useless in my case. I don't know you and i have no wish to insult you but my dealings with you're profession as turned me against the nhs and coming from a long standing socialist this hasn't been easy to wright. Again no personal insult to DanJ intended.
I think it's very unfair to generalise. I also find it insulting to make such a sweeping statement against an under funded and over worked facet of something destroyed by his Tonyness and the wonderful legacy he's left this country with. Nurses and anyone who works with the pathetic constraints imposed upon them, and still manage to care for patients, whilst keeping their own heads up, deserve much respect imo. Hate the game not the players.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:06:20 » |
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I'm sorry but the nurses were next to useless in my case. I don't know you and i have no wish to insult you but my dealings with you're profession as turned me against the nhs and coming from a long standing socialist this hasn't been easy to wright. Again no personal insult to DanJ intended.
Fuck off my future wife to be works god damn hard. 12 hours shifts and in no sequence. She looks after premy babies, and the amount of stick she gets is unbeleivable especially on such a low wage. If it wasn't for her, and the other babies in scbu, many families would be destroyed. But on the other hand, its like any profession you get good and bad. But in scbu its all good.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:23:55 » |
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Hey I'm not looking for a fight here and i can only call it as i see it. PMH hada bad reputation amongst the profession and that seems to be carrying through to GWH, im ny limited experience. PMH reputation I learnt from my niece who when't to Reading to train.
It's there for all to see. Take a look around the wards dedicated to the old and confused. Patients laying in there own filth wasn't a rare occurence when I was visiting. If I allowed a dog to die in the conditions my step father in law did, I would of been locked away.
Again, limited experience but the three nurses I know socially, I wouldn't want anywere near me if I was in need and thats not me being fatuose(really bad spelling) Any compassion these women stated out with was soon knocked out of them.
1 more thing they are good at getting their nearest and dearest through the system. My opinion is, the NHS can work for a selected few but is no way near what it was first set up to be.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:24:52 » |
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I'm all for it and can’t imagine the thought of becoming a vegetable and would rather be ushered along that bit quicker along this mortal coil. Likewise I’d support anyone else’s decision to make that choice.
However, what I found a bit disturbing is a young lad who was crippled and confined to a wheelchair after a rugby accident then went on to take assisted suicide supported by his folks. Now wheelchair confinement I’d imagine is hell for some people (not all) and not something I could conceive of understanding especially for anyone having been so active but there’s a big difference between it and having a terminal or debilitating illness.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:30:54 » |
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It's a vague area isn't it Dazzza?
I guess they could do it on a ruling that without treatment this person would be unable to survive, so the wheelchair bloke wouldn't be allowed it. Problem is you'd get nutters who were diabetics who wanted to end their life and would exploit such a loophole.
I just can't see it ever being workable.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:33:00 » |
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I'm all for it and can’t imagine the thought of becoming a vegetable and would rather be ushered along that bit quicker along this mortal coil.
Although if legalised, the person who dies must be sane to approve it in the first place, otherwise it could be murder. Meaning that somebody who is insane cannot be aided in committing suicide no matter how much pain they might be in. There is also the argument that many people are still able to take there own lives without help, it would only be those who are completely paralised or dependant who would need help. I am all for euthanasia in the right circumstances and hope that I would not be made to suffer myself, it's not as black and white as it may seem though,
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