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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:06:13 » |
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My party name would be "None of the above - spoilt vote"
Of course it would have to be at the bottom of the ballot paper - can you request where you go on a ballot paper or is it in alphabetical order?
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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:12:11 » |
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I too would vote Tory in a General Election, but am going UKIP for the Euro's. My reasoning is that their are only 3 choices for a goverment. Labour & Brown in particular have basically wrecked the country. Liberals promise what they think you want to hear but are basically incompetent, as shown by the way they messed up NWDC. I don't think the tories are perfect my any means but we need a goverment who will make cuts in the right places. (Any goverment will HAVE to make cuts) The national debt is out of controll, & lot of this is down to Labours reluctance to cut Quangos, & the public sector in general. This is because they have ever since 1997, been busy creating non jobs / votes for labour with OUR money Cuts will even need to be made in Health & Education, but this can be done by removing layers of management etc without affecting the services that matter.
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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:13:37 » |
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The poll tax was correct in principle but it hit the family's hardest who hadn't kicked their kids out at 18 to fend for themselves and suddenly saw a massive increase in their 'rates'
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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:14:34 » |
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I too would vote Tory in a General Election, but am going UKIP for the Euro's. My reasoning is that their are only 3 choices for a goverment. Labour & Brown in particular have basically wrecked the country. Liberals promise what they think you want to hear but are basically incompetent, as shown by the way they messed up NWDC. I don't think the tories are perfect my any means but we need a goverment who will make cuts in the right places. (Any goverment will HAVE to make cuts) The national debt is out of controll, & lot of this is down to Labours reluctance to cut Quangos, & the public sector in general. This is because they have ever since 1997, been busy creating non jobs / votes for labour with OUR money Cuts will even need to be made in Health & Education, but this can be done by removing layers of management etc without affecting the services that matter.
I think many people will take the UKIP route in Europe
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« Reply #49 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:20:18 » |
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Will UKIP & the BNP will change their names when Scotland gains independance?
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« Reply #50 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:21:40 » |
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I probably wouldn't bother, but if pushed at this moment would probably vote Labour.
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« Reply #51 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:23:33 » |
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My philosophy with taxes is that they're always going to piss you off and some taxes more so than others. That is, unless you feel you're getting adequate return on the taxes you pay through services, infrastructure and good governance. As an aside, Poll Tax got replaced with extra VAT and Council Tax didn't it? In hindsight maybe Poll Tax wasn't so bad after all.
I can't think of any government which has succeeded in doing this in living memory and it's generally not through poor policy selection it's through poor execution of such policies. I think this leaves me with little choice other than to analyse the policies of each party and take a punt on what I feel is best. Like Pumbaa, I'd have to sit down and go through the manifestos to weigh up the pros and cons of each and the one which ticks the most boxes would be my preference. My cynical side tells me that party will still make a hash of it though. Which is probably why parties are increasingly going for middle ground to sweep up the majority of votes because this is what more and more people are doing.
I think the danger in the future is a more fascist party like the BNP will continue to win votes on the basis that they represent not something slightly right of middle, but far right which people may turn to as an objection to the middle ground. Unfortunately a party like the BNP (aside from the obvious) is that there is too much emphasis with the man at the top. Sure, this will probably lead to less internal bickering unlike the other parties, but with such extreme politic views this would be a very dangerous combination in my opinion.
I have only just begun to take a pssing interest in the Euro elections and I think I will have to read up on things before I decided who to vote on. I'm not all that clued up on the EU other than a lot of passing objections are often media hype and bollocks.
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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:26:07 » |
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I'd vote Tory, as i'd see anything else as a waste. In the Euro's, i'm going for UKIP
Fully agree on that. Anyone but that Scottish tosser currently got. I've just received this joke about the man : A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him He asked, 'What are all those clocks?' St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock move.' 'Oh', said the man. 'Whose clock is that?' 'That's Mother Teresa's', replied St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.' 'Incredible', said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?' St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abraham told only two lies in his entire life.' 'Where's Gordon Brown's clock?' asked the man. 'Brown's clock is in Jesus's office. He's using it as a ceiling fan.'
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« Reply #53 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:29:47 » |
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Will UKIP & the BNP will change their names when Scotland gains independance?
Only when Wales goes independant and that won't happen until they can work out an economy based on sheep and coal...
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« Reply #54 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:52:41 » |
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The poll tax was correct in principle but it hit the family's hardest who hadn't kicked their kids out at 18 to fend for themselves and suddenly saw a massive increase in their 'rates'
Exactly.
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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 12:19:04 » |
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Exactly.
I probably wouldn't bother, but if pushed at this moment would probably vote Labour.
Actually I wouldn't have a problem with Scottish Independence at all if that's what the majority wanted. Granted we wouldn't have most of whats left of the oil, but we also wouldn't be subsidising them or have to put up with them running England whilst we have no say in running Scotland.
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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 12:22:14 » |
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The poll tax was correct in principle but it hit the family's hardest who hadn't kicked their kids out at 18 to fend for themselves and suddenly saw a massive increase in their 'rates'
Agree, with what you are saying. I guess the best solution would actually be a local income tax which I think is a Lib Dem policy is it not
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« Reply #57 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 12:23:21 » |
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Fully agree on that. Anyone but that Scottish tosser currently got. I've just received this joke about the man :
A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him
He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'
St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock move.'
'Oh', said the man. 'Whose clock is that?'
'That's Mother Teresa's', replied St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.'
'Incredible', said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abraham told only two lies in his entire life.'
'Where's Gordon Brown's clock?' asked the man.
'Brown's clock is in Jesus's office. He's using it as a ceiling fan.'
Love this!
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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 13:06:07 » |
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I'd vote for the lib dems, not sure why anyone would want to vote ukip, they seem a bit of a joke party, I can't really see any benefit to dropping out of the EU anyway.
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« Reply #59 on: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 13:10:28 » |
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Are ukip not just a diet BNP? Im going to vote lib dem. Someone has to
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