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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 14:56:10 »

Not sure why Celtic didnt?

My Family are huge celtic fans, originally from Ireland moving to Glasgow around the time of the famine. Both my great grandfathers died in 1ww and I lost my grandad a pilot in 2WW my other grandad had part of his leg blown off on the normandy beaches.

They are celtic through and through. dont tell me they and my family wouldnt have approved of a minutes silence.
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 14:58:27 »

See thats where I don't agree. Most kids do know what its about they just don't respect the situation. They still get taught it in school - in my school here its been in assembly, its been all over the news etc. Kids nowadays have to be taught respect. You get some kids who do care, but the majority don't care about the past.

But did they realise it was the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. Unless a minutes silence was organised by the school I would imagine most would have forgotten and carried about their play.

I have to confess, I was in the middle of work and missed the hour passing. That isn't intended as a lack of respect.
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In all honesty the gravity of war didn't really hit home when I was that age (under say 11). Yes I knew a lot of people died, including some from my family. It's only in later (approaching adult) life you really appreciate mortality. Well it was for me anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 15:02:12 »

I think that Sippo's students are a lot older iirc

I am sure that he has mentioned perving over 6th formers many a time
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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 15:17:32 »

Oh, right. In that case it is a bit different I suppose.
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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 15:28:49 »

I think that Sippo's students are a lot older iirc

I am sure that he has mentioned perving over 6th formers many a time

Would i??!

yes we are a secondary. Obvoiusly below that age is understandable as they wouldn't have a clue.

Its mainly the older kids that show lack of respect anyway.
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 15:56:21 »

Not sure why Celtic didnt?

My Family are huge celtic fans, originally from Ireland moving to Glasgow around the time of the famine. Both my great grandfathers died in 1ww and I lost my grandad a pilot in 2WW my other grandad had part of his leg blown off on the normandy beaches.

They are celtic through and through. dont tell me they and my family wouldnt have approved of a minutes silence.

The vast majority of Celtic fans would support a minutes silence, however it only takes a handful of disrespectful supporters to ruin the event, in which case Celtic were right to have a minute's applause.
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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 16:30:41 »

Here's an article about the minutes applause and comments from Celtic and other football fans.


http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2008/11/celtics-complex.html


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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 16:38:39 »

See thats where I don't agree. Most kids do know what its about they just don't respect the situation. They still get taught it in school - in my school here its been in assembly, its been all over the news etc. Kids nowadays have to be taught respect. You get some kids who do care, but the majority don't care about the past.

as the kids are older you refer to i agree with you.at that age they dont really care at all.
i remember watching the bradford fire disaster at school and the boys in our class were laughing like fuck.it was wrong, but kids think differently.as soon as they hit puberty they think they know everything,they argue,and dont give a shit about anything.
the majority will grow into decent adults though.
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 17:18:55 »

Part of the problem is that the kids aren't taught anything about it now at school.

Of course they are! What a ridiculous statement.

I work in a Primary School and all the kids were learning about it last week. Today we all observed the silence and even the badly behaved kids were quiet throughout.
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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 17:44:56 »

I have kids in primary and they DO learn about the World Wars - our lot had to go dressed as school kids from that time and learned all about the war....

My niece also came home with a book from school called "The boy in the striped pyjama's" - she is 10

I defy anyone to read it (bloody excellent book) and not be moved to tears - its quite a remarkable story....
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 18:05:31 »

I work in a Primary School

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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 18:08:11 »

I am worried about the number of nutters in this thread that work in schools
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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 18:09:15 »

Men begged and lied used forged documents etc to get into the army to fight for their country, My Nan told me my great- grandad did that for WW1. I am the same. If my country needed me I'd be there in a flash. Most kids this day wouldn't give a toss. Men would stand arm in arm fighting to be free and fighting for their families so there kids could have a future. Just imagine how different the world would be today if Hitler won for example.
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 18:13:21 »

It would be ace

I could grow an ace tache for that tacheback thingy without people getting out of their prams about it


Oh.............and dye my hair blonde without being called a raging queen

























(only joking of course all you sensitive souls, before Janagge comes round and stabs me)
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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 19:24:03 »

I was talking to a Irishman the other day (a staunch republican) and he was giving me a bit of hassle for wearing a poppy (especially as I am more pro republican than unionist as it were - but that's another story), anyway I disagreed with his take on it, as to me wearing a poppy is about the millions upon millions of lads who were slaughtered in WWI, and for the fallen in WWII.  I know the poppy represents others who have fallen in other conflicts but to me it's mostly about WWI and WWII. 

Having said that no matter what war the fallen may have died in, every single one of them was some mother's son/daughter.  I don't agree with Iraq for example, but when you seen the lads who have died, or have lost a limb, it makes it an individual thing, not a political one.

During WWI although Ireland was ruled by Westminster, the governement had the common sense not to enforce conscription in Ireland.  A large number of Irishmen volunteered to their credit.  I was interested to read about the Irish contribution in WW2, as I was unaware, sadly I am aware of their less impressive record during WW2 and after with regard to both Jews and Nazis (check out the programme Ireland's Nazis for info).
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