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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 13:04:28 »

jungle bunny?

jesus.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 13:06:42 »

Jungle bunny - is that some sort of racist phrase?
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 13:08:57 »

What actually happened the wembley crowd booed one of their own players?  Hardly news, more like olds, you lot have been doing that at Wembley for years.  Can't see it changing in the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 14:43:46 »

hahaha, drunken rage = stupidity, apologies
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 14:46:36 »

What actually happened the wembley crowd booed one of their own players?  Hardly news, more like olds, you lot have been doing that at Wembley for years.  Can't see it changing in the foreseeable future.

Couldnt see the Jocks qualifying again until they lowered the entry standard.
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 14:49:44 »

You must be pretty short sighted then Spence, 2nd (whihc was the original target) is still very much in our grasp.  The the play offs, and who knows what could happen there.

Agree we're unlikely to top a group in the near future though.

Still a day out at hampden is a far greater experience than going to Wembley, even my most staunch England fan mates agree there, although they do say England away is a pretty good craic thesedays.

We have a dream...
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Spencer_White

« Reply #21 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 15:29:58 »

I was only trying to wind you up. Fair play, Hampden is quality for Scotland games.

No, England is crap. Home and away.

Away qualifiers everyones just trying to act the stereotype and be a knob. Or going the other way and being goody two shoes!

UEFA got it the wrong way round, the tournaments were fine. The problem is the qualifiers. Abolish friendlies and have groups of 12 teams is what I would have done. That would have improved it no end. Its all too expensive, and too much hard work with all the England+ caps bollocks.

As it is, Im usually just glad that were 3rd tier and we dont have to stop for international weekends.

I wasnt even paying attention to the TV yesterday. Not interested.
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 16:32:11 »

the south american qualifiers are usually the best - one big fucking group...
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 16:35:59 »

I was only trying to wind you up. Fair play, Hampden is quality for Scotland games.

No, England is crap. Home and away.

Away qualifiers everyones just trying to act the stereotype and be a knob. Or going the other way and being goody two shoes!

UEFA got it the wrong way round, the tournaments were fine. The problem is the qualifiers. Abolish friendlies and have groups of 12 teams is what I would have done. That would have improved it no end. Its all too expensive, and too much hard work with all the England+ caps bollocks.

As it is, Im usually just glad that were 3rd tier and we dont have to stop for international weekends.

I wasnt even paying attention to the TV yesterday. Not interested.

Fair enough Spence.  I can see why some people have lost interest in england, i do think sky have turned it into a bit of a soap opera these days.  ou boys can't just play, win draw or lose and move on.  There always has to be some "breaking news" shit that goes on and on.
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Spencer_White

« Reply #24 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 16:44:06 »

Just seems to attract the worst type of fans to me. Wannabes.

Its so rare that you meet real football fans at England.

In between tournaments you get 4 big games in 2 years. Its not on.
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 18:13:53 »

I saw the England friendly against Hungry at Old Trafford before the last World Cup and vowed to never go again... I may change my mind one day, although I do support England it doesn't come close to the Swindon feeling.
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 19:28:33 »

I met a good few real English football fans yesterday. Some from Swindon at the station and others from Arsenal, West Brom etc at Wembley. The ones I met follow their team first and their country second. Most were knowledgeable, knew Swindon were crap and reminded me of games they'd seen against us when we weren't. Also commented on how good our supporters are / were. Basically good, honest lads.
The Cole incident was a bit unusual. He made a real cock up but Ferdinnad and Brown just watched when if they weren't so complacent could have stopped it. James did a Brez / Smith impression. The fans around me booed Cole not because of this incident but because as a person they find him a loathesome piece of shit and this was a good chance to get at him. One or two were shouting "that's for Cheryl" and the Arsenal fans were just bearing a grudge he went to Chelsea.
Some players really should question why they are booed and others aren't. Rio's comments were plain stupid. I don't think for one minute the fans booing Cole will feel embarrassed. Personally, i don't see why they should either. It was nothing to do with football, a bit of feedback as to what they thuoght of him as a person.
It was the first trip to Wembley for my 13 year old daughter and she loved it.
Oh and if any Swindon fans were on the 8:45 from Paddington in between coaches E and D, I hope you feel well this morning. You provided great entertainment for us on the way home and my daughter increased her vocabulary quite considerably.
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, October 13, 2008, 11:53:33 »

On the subject of booing whether its england or swindon someone made the following point on another site and to be honest it is spot on.

football teams (club and national) nowadays treating fans as customers, fans have started to behave as customers. Rather than going along to support the team, they go along expecting entertainment and will show their displeasure if they don't get the entertainment they paid for
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fatbury

« Reply #28 on: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:04:22 »

As an Arsenal fan I hate Cashley ...

BUT ..

I was appalled at the booing Saturday even if he does kind of deserve it - he didnt deserve it for his performances this season for England  - the best left back we have - just a loss of concentration - it happens to every player at some stage in a career
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chalkies_shorts

« Reply #29 on: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:14:53 »

But his overall game on Saturday was crap as well. It was like he was sleep walking through the game as this was not an siolated lapse in concentration - just the worst example. I agree he's the best left back we've got but he under performed badly Saturday and I don't actually think he's progressed as a player since leaving the Arse.
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