This is insane

[Jamiesfuturewife]

Not really it's quite a bit different, sharing toilets compared to sharing sinks.  You know what the state of bloke's toilets are like.  Can't see the ladies being to happy about bloke's in their loo's when the locks are broken, toilet roll all over the floor, piss all over the seats....

(I am making a bit of an assumption that ladies toilets are a lot nicer than ours!)

Actually Jan the Ladies are always FAR worse than the mens - at the sports centre anyway - the other weekend the wet and dryside toilets were both blocked with GINOURMOUS poos

The one in the wetside changing rooms just wouldnt flush - it took two of us beating it with a loo brush to make it go away.

then you get the delightful people who leave used tampons and towels on the floor - always a lovelty site to be greeted with! *sigh*

[janaage]

Urgh, that's minging, I'll stick to use our posh toilets at work, and my one at home.  Public toilets are grim.

[herthab]

I'm sorry if I sound like some old fashioned dinosaur, but this is fucking stupid!

There's two sexes: Male and Female.

A bloke who feels more comfortable dressed as a woman is a fucking weirdo.

[Colin Todd]

But things still suit the majority. It's not as if you're making life difficult for everyone else. So why not make it easier for the minority as well?

The word pandering suggests that you think that the minorities lifestyles are less valid just because they are the minority? Why not make there lives easier for such a minimum sacrifice?

Also it's only a fucking sign. Which may have needed replacing anyway. I doubt it took long to put up either.

You get loads of toilets in clubs and bars where only the cubicles/urinal bits are seperate for girls and boys with shared sinks and mirrors and stuff. Not much different from that.

Everyone is either male or female. Trannies need to decide which they feel more comfortable with and walk in the appropriate door.

If this got rolled out I would be outraged. It might not cost much to change a couple of signs in one SU bar, but if every public owned bog in the country had to be changed the cost to the taxpayer would be enormous.

And I actually agree that it makes very little difference, the trannies will probably just go in the one they went into in the 1st place anyway. In which case the status quo should prevail, and everyone can save time money and energy for more important things. A few transexual people might get pissed off about it.  boo hoo. loads of things piss me off, but I dont expect the world to be changed to make me happy, just beacuase I'm a hetrosexual white male.

[flammableBen]

Everyone is either male or female. Trannies need to decide which they feel more comfortable with and walk in the appropriate door.

I'm pretty sure there's some medical and psychiartric professionals who disagree with you, but I'm sure your little view trumps all.

If this got rolled out I would be outraged. It might not cost much to change a couple of signs in one SU bar, but if every public owned bog in the country had to be changed the cost to the taxpayer would be enormous.

THere's no sign of it getting rolled out nationwide. Yet you seem to be ridiculously threatened by relabelling toilets by the facilities they offer rather than the genders they are associated with. Isn't that a little odd?

And I actually agree that it makes very little difference, the trannies will probably just go in the one they went into in the 1st place anyway. In which case the status quo should prevail, and everyone can save time money and energy for more important things.

You seem to think there's some threat of changing toilet signs sucking the worlds resources or something. I reckon it could get phased in nationwide with pretty little effort. Infact I hope it does because it would amuse me watching you get pissed off.

A few transexual people might get pissed off about it.  boo hoo. loads of things piss me off, but I dont expect the world to be changed to make me happy, just beacuase I'm a hetrosexual white male.

A White middle class persecution complex? It'ss always pathetic. People aren't persecuting you by making small changes that may make others lives easier. Don't act like a fucking child.

[Samdy Gray]

I can help but think Ben likes this idea because

a) he likes wearing dresses

or

b) he likes the idea of wearing a dress so he can perv on women

[flammableBen]

Fuck off. I'm not a gender bender.

[Lumps]

I think it's funny as fuck that any one of you is even remotely bothered about this. So some student union that you'll never go to has changed the sinage of it's bogs. It's hardly the end of civilisation is it.

[janaage]

Lumps I don't think anyone here is personally bothered by UMSU's move to de-genderise toilets.  I think we're just having a chat about the pro's and cons about it fella.  That's all.

[pauld]

I'm a bit worried about where these pandas that Colin Todd keeps going on about are going to go - not that fussed about the trannies, but I'm not keen on sharing bogs with bamboo-chewing bears

[Colin Todd]

I'm pretty sure there's some medical and psychiartric professionals who disagree with you, but I'm sure your little view trumps all.

THere's no sign of it getting rolled out nationwide. Yet you seem to be ridiculously threatened by relabelling toilets by the facilities they offer rather than the genders they are associated with. Isn't that a little odd?
You seem to think there's some threat of changing toilet signs sucking the worlds resources or something. I reckon it could get phased in nationwide with pretty little effort. Infact I hope it does because it would amuse me watching you get pissed off.

A White middle class persecution complex? It'ss always pathetic. People aren't persecuting you by making small changes that may make others lives easier. Don't act like a fucking child.

Seriously, fuck right off.  Being told to stop acting like a child by someone who by all accounts is borderline unemployable, lives at home with his mother , and spends his days playing 10 year old nintendo games whilst drinking budget cider is a bit rich.

As I said before I cant believe I'm even arguing about it.  Its not the end of the world. I dont even care really. I just thought it was a little odd and the TEF was the obvious discussion place for a debate on toilet signs in Manchester

[tans]

oohh

[flammableBen]

Seriously, fuck right off.  Being told to stop acting like a child by someone who by all accounts is borderline unemployable, lives at home with his mother , and spends his days playing 10 year old nintendo games whilst drinking budget cider is a bit rich.

You can make it personal all you want, but playing the nobody ever sticks up for me because I'm white and middle class is pathetic and I'll stand by that.

All those above things may be true, but I clearly have a more mature outlook on this subject that you do.

[Colin Todd]

You made it personal, dont start playing the victim!

I cant help but think this has gone a little OTT.  I have nothing more to say.

[flammableBen]

You made it personal, dont start playing the victim!

I cant help but think this has gone a little OTT.  I have nothing more to say.

I didn't bring in aspects of your life which had nothing to do with the discussion. You've got an advantage on me there as I know fuck all about you. Just that you're easy to wind up.

Probably best to leave it yeah.