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« Reply #60 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 16:07:10 »

Such a close escape for us.

Chris Perry thinks it will be a miracle for them to stay up and i totally agree. Not sure about signing Sammy P but would take Sol back.

Anyhow itll be interesting playing this on FM next season when its released. That will be a challenge..
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« Reply #61 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 16:17:49 »

What about Matthew Spring? Central midfielder with loads of experience

Luton have some players that could do well at Swindon - Lewis Emmanuel is a left sided defender isn't he? He's a players who's young but has almost 200 league games. Then, of course, there's Parkin, Spring, Bell, Davis and Keane.

Can they afford these players or will Luton be trying to get the biggest possible fees for them.
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« Reply #62 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 16:26:44 »

Cause if they resigned from the 4th either one of the relegated teams would be retained or the 3rd placed side in the BSP would get promoted to fill the space. Dingbat.



They're not gunna do that now are they...with the fixtures already released, and the new season about to start. Dingbat.
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« Reply #63 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 16:38:52 »

I thought Bell had left?

Keane is a good player on FM so lets sign him up!
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« Reply #64 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 16:45:01 »

What about Matthew Spring? Central midfielder with loads of experience

Luton have some players that could do well at Swindon - Lewis Emmanuel is a left sided defender isn't he? He's a players who's young but has almost 200 league games. Then, of course, there's Parkin, Spring, Bell, Davis and Keane.

Can they afford these players or will Luton be trying to get the biggest possible fees for them.


Good call Rich,they definately have some players worth looking at.
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« Reply #65 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 17:42:21 »

Would this be the "Golden share" that all clubs have to have to assure that they can play
each season?

No I don't think it is anything to do with that, more details here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rotherham_utd/7502283.stm

Looks like it is payable only if they don't move back to Rotherham within 4 years, although when it has to be paid they don't know, I assume it is to stop them doing a Franchise (although different situation) - but they may have points deducted yet though as well....
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« Reply #66 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 17:45:53 »

Some of League Two's perennial strugglers must be sleeping well at the moment. Until there time comes.
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« Reply #67 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 18:03:01 »

They're not gunna do that now are they...with the fixtures already released, and the new season about to start. Dingbat.

So if Luton now went bust before the season begins you're trying to tell me that the BSP would say "no you're alright none of our clubs can possibly fill that available position in the league 'cause we've already printed out the fixture list"

Besides it wasn't meant to be a practical suggested course of action, I'm assuming the Luton Board have better things to do than trawl through this bollocks. I just couldn't understand how someone couldn't grasp that if a club left D4 to join the BSP then there'd be a place in D4 for a BSP club, rather than an overcrowded BSP league table.
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« Reply #68 on: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:56:14 »

So if Luton now went bust before the season begins you're trying to tell me that the BSP would say "no you're alright none of our clubs can possibly fill that available position in the league 'cause we've already printed out the fixture list"

Besides it wasn't meant to be a practical suggested course of action, I'm assuming the Luton Board have better things to do than trawl through this bollocks. I just couldn't understand how someone couldn't grasp that if a club left D4 to join the BSP then there'd be a place in D4 for a BSP club, rather than an overcrowded BSP league table.

The people who run the BSP and BSS/BSN divisions are even harsher on clubs than the FL - if Luton had been in the BSP when all this happened then they'd have been kicked out of the league (ala Halifax etc) so even with a 30 point deduction, at least they have a season to try and get their accounts in order before the inevitable fall out of the league!  If they don't, then next season they could be playing in the Rymans League Premier!

As someone posted further up - it makes you realise how lucky we were with Mr Fitton coming along when he did!
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« Reply #69 on: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 21:08:48 »

This is the latest explanation from Mawhinney.According to Pleat they've got an appeal
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article4319270.ece

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« Reply #70 on: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 08:40:00 »

This is being reported today(tues) in the media.

The last para is interesting, because it makes you feel that appeals panel minds are already made up.



Luton whistle-blower was not club official

Governing body will spell out why League Two club were shown no leniency when appeal hearing gets under way.
The FA will argue that it was right to deny Luton Town leniency when it charged the Coca-Cola League Two club with misconduct and imposed a ten-point penalty because the whistle-blower on their illegal payments to agents was not a club official.

At an appeal hearing that begins today, the governing body will also suggest that the ten-point deduction should be viewed separately from the 20-point penalty handed out to Luton by the Football League.

Cherry Newbery, the club secretary at the time, was the employee who drew attention to the directors who were paying agents through a holding company, rather than from the club's bank account. Luton adopted this method because Mike Newell, the manager at the time, did not like paying agents for deals.

The club had expected that the FA would take this, and their full co-operation during the inquiry, into account when it passed judgment. The FA, however, will argue that the club broke its rules and that Newbery, as a secretary, cannot be viewed as a club official.


FA asked to rethink Luton penalty

At today's appeal, Luton will counter that this is not relevant because she was an employee at the club. Some in the game feel that the FA's decision could deter whistle-blowers in future.

The FA will claim that Luton's punishment should be viewed in isolation from the 20-point deduction by the Football League for not being able to meet the League's insolvency rules to exit administration. The FA will contend that its penalty was known when the Football League adjudicated on Luton last week, and that the League could have taken into account the cumulative effect of the two points deductions. As it stands, Luton will start next season on minus 30 points.

Luton have received the written support of several former high-ranking FA officials, but the governing body has said that these letters will not be taken into account by the panel today, which will be made up of a QC, an FA councillor and someone formerly associated with the game. The panel is expected to announce its decision today.

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« Reply #71 on: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:26:25 »

http://www.rotherhamunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=397754

Not sure how accurate this is, but Rotherham's attempt to agree a CVA has been rejected.

Seems likely that they'll suffer a penalty too.

No news on Bournemouth yet.
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« Reply #72 on: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:28:31 »

Kind of takes your breath away doesn't it?

Very easily could have been us.
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« Reply #73 on: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:30:41 »

The think the 23 other members of League 2 should back Lu'on here and ask the FL to reduce their punishment, this is a sport after all, and the FL's treatment of Lu'on is very sportsmanlike.
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« Reply #74 on: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 13:10:00 »

http://www.rotherhamunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=397754

Not sure how accurate this is, but Rotherham's attempt to agree a CVA has been rejected.

Seems likely that they'll suffer a penalty too.

No news on Bournemouth yet.

I think at last Vote the CVA was deferred for Bournemouth as it was voted against by the FL & a small creditor as they hadn't filled in all the paperwork for the FL...or something simular to this, can't remember where I read it now
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