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Rich Pullen

« Reply #45 on: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 22:32:10 »

Are Rotherham flirting with a punishment aswell?

Bournemouth will get penalised - If both Bournemouth and Luton left the Football League, it would be odd.
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« Reply #46 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 06:05:44 »

The last i heard was that Rotherham aren't playing at Millmoor this season.Instead they're

having to play at Sheffield's Don Valley Stadium.This has come about because of their former

chairman still owning Millmoor and a disupute between himself, the club and the current board.

Shades of Brighton and the problems they've had.
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« Reply #47 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 07:46:13 »

So they have been told to accept the 20 point deduction without appeal to be allowed into the FL next season, they have also been told to pay unsecured creditors 16p in the £.

Surely it is not the FL's place to get involved in financial matters, I can understand them being punished for exiting admin without a CVA, but a 30 point deduction...as has been said they may as well put them in the conf where at least they will have a chance to get back, as it stands it wil lbe at least 2 years until they are able to compete properly in the FL.

You have to feel for the fan's though as they are being punished as well, and with no right of appeal as well is just wrong.
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« Reply #48 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 07:57:28 »

Are Rotherham flirting with a punishment aswell?

Bournemouth will get penalised - If both Bournemouth and Luton left the Football League, it would be odd.

The thing is Rich I think this has been on the cards for a while, in terms of well established clubs struggling to keep their football league status.  There are many well run non-league clubs on the up, and many badly run FL clubs on their way down.  Give it 20 years or so and the league could look very different from today.  Which is a shame for traditionalists i suppose but it's survival of the fitness now, not like before when votes could keep you in the league.
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« Reply #49 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 08:03:09 »

For ages the Football League have been looking for a scapegoat to make an example of. They tried it with Leeds but they kicked up a stink so now it looks like they're doing it with Luton. And they'll keep doing it until someone goes bust, just to prove the point.
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« Reply #50 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:21:54 »

That could so easily have been us with Diamandis playing russian Roulette with our club. I personally think that the FL should introduce a new rule which is that anyone wishing to be a director of, or run a league club should place a bond with the league, with interest payable. The bond could only be got back after  a year or two of leaving the club. Most directors could afford this particularly if interest were paid on the bond, but the main thing would be that the FL would have the means to punish those who commit the crimes/ breaches not the fans. It would also discourage chancers like our previous esteemed financial genius from dipping their snout into football.
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« Reply #51 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 10:59:56 »

I think if I was a Luton director I might be tempted to have a chat with the BSP and see if they'd look favourably on giving the club a place if they resigned from the league. A season in non-league fighting for a title is bound to be better for attendances than a season of scrapping for survival with a huge deficit to make up
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« Reply #52 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:03:30 »

I think if I was a Luton director I might be tempted to have a chat with the BSP and see if they'd look favourably on giving the club a place if they resigned from the league. A season in non-league fighting for a title is bound to be better for attendances than a season of scrapping for survival with a huge deficit to make up

How would they do that though? A team would have to be kicked out of the BSP to make room, which won't happen.
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« Reply #53 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:05:22 »

its is a bit funny seing how different peoples reactions are to lutons deduction as opposed to leeds'
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« Reply #54 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:08:46 »

How would they do that though? A team would have to be kicked out of the BSP to make room, which won't happen.

Cause if they resigned from the 4th either one of the relegated teams would be retained or the 3rd placed side in the BSP would get promoted to fill the space. Dingbat.

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« Reply #55 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 12:59:13 »

its is a bit funny seing how different peoples reactions are to lutons deduction as opposed to leeds'

That's because Ken Bates tried to get away with any point deduction except for the 10 points which they got when they were already relegated, but thanks to HMRC, they had to accept a 15 point penalty (eventually), despite offering originally only 1p in the £.

Luton were on the verge on going bust, and now they've got a bigger penalty than Leeds, which to me is a joke.
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« Reply #56 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 14:08:20 »

this is disgraceful victimisation of a club in no position to defend itself.

Its all gone far too far.

totally agree.

as soon as i saw this story i thought to myself that this could quite easily have been us - terrifying isn't it?

the FL are punishing the fans not the individual's responsible for the mess they left behind. it appears that accountability is an irrelevence, drag a club into the mire then walk away when the shit hits the fan(s).

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« Reply #57 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 14:52:07 »

Are Rotherham flirting with a punishment aswell?

Bournemouth will get penalised - If both Bournemouth and Luton left the Football League, it would be odd.

The FL have told them they have to put up a £750,000 bond to play at the new ground next season, not sure why, assume it is to ensure they complete the season there, have they go that sort of spare cash though, can't see many teams having it
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #58 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 15:04:48 »

The FL have told them they have to put up a £750,000 bond to play at the new ground next season, not sure why, assume it is to ensure they complete the season there, have they go that sort of spare cash though, can't see many teams having it

Hmmm - I wouldn't know, that's a lot of dosh, it would have buggered us and I know they had problems behind-the-scenes. Although that's the reason they've had to go to Sheffield in the first place.
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« Reply #59 on: Friday, July 11, 2008, 15:53:13 »

The FL have told them they have to put up a £750,000 bond to play at the new ground next season,

Would this be the "Golden share" that all clubs have to have to assure that they can play
each season?
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