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« Reply #90 on: Friday, March 21, 2008, 17:38:18 »

I can't believe this is happening again, lock it mod's ffs!!
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« Reply #91 on: Friday, March 21, 2008, 17:39:49 »

Just don't read it.

NO TO CENSORSHIP

Actually I think it's fun.
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« Reply #92 on: Friday, March 21, 2008, 18:07:57 »

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Yeah I'm sure they're really laughing whilst he knocks a hat-trick past them. He has proved himself at the highest levels in football time and time again. I mean any similarity between Crouch and Carlton Palmer or Steve Bull is completely in your head - it's non-existent, Steve Bull spent most of his career outside of the top flight, Palmer was a completely different type of player and Crouch is in a far higher class than either of them. Crouch was second top scorer in the champions league last year Robert, that's proof enough alone that you're talking nonsense. Were those teams laughing too as Liverpool knocked them out on their root to the final? Clearly, they didnt have the last laugh. I've already ripped your weak argument about him only scoring against weak international teams to shreds. There are at least 15 weaker players than Crouch in the current England squad, why are you singling in him out? Fair enough, you obviously don't know much about England but why comment then.

Of course he is good enough, there are hundreds of international teams that would love to have him.
Technically, unless you count youths and ladies, there aren't hundreds of international teams, regardless of whether or not they'd want Crouch playing for them.  Wink
Actually, there are hundreds. http://www.eloratings.net/ - 229 to be exact.  Wink
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« Reply #93 on: Saturday, March 22, 2008, 12:23:33 »

And of those 229, I imagine the 215 or so who are worse than England would all want Crouch playing for them, so Ben Wah Balls was right.

Well done Ben Wah Balls.  Cool
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« Reply #94 on: Saturday, March 22, 2008, 13:30:10 »

...and I bet all the ones above us wouldnt want him & thats why they are above us  Cheesy
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« Reply #95 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 14:56:57 »

On another note aside from the bitching..............Rio will be captaining England V France.

I was quite surprised to see Agbonlahor axed though, think he deserved a place in the final 23.
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« Reply #96 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:04:56 »

Very good decision in regards to Ferdinand .
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« Reply #97 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:12:19 »

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still no Rob Green  :shock:

Surprised Sol Campbell isnt in there and will England ever give Andy Johnson a chance to actually play upfront


Green doesn't command his box enough for my liking and we've already got a great shot stopper - but not a lot else... again, in my opnion - in James.

Equally surprised about Sol. He's loving his football again at the moment and it's showing.

The boys in the office had told me Johnson is crocked again when I asked this exact same question last week!?! If he's fit, he's got to at least be in the squad.
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« Reply #98 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:13:13 »

Dear God no. I'm not sure who i'd give it to, but i'd be hard pressed to pick Ferdinand in the first team, let alone as captain!
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« Reply #99 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:14:26 »

Ferdinand has been quality this season
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« Reply #100 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:15:06 »

Rob green is in now as is Paul Robinson.

Final Squad:

England squad:

Goalkeepers: David James (Portsmouth), Paul Robinson (Tottenham Hotspur), Robert Green (West Ham)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Chelsea), Wes Brown (Manchester United), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United - capt), Glen Johnson (Portsmouth), Joleon Lescott (Everton), John Terry (Chelsea), Jonathan Woodgate (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (AstonVilla), Owen Hargreaves (Manchester United), Joe Cole (Chelsea), David Bentley (Blackburn Rovers), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough)

Forwards: Michael Owen (Newcastle United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Peter Crouch (Liverpool), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
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« Reply #101 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:23:46 »

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Yeah I'm sure they're really laughing whilst he knocks a hat-trick past them. He has proved himself at the highest levels in football time and time again. I mean any similarity between Crouch and Carlton Palmer or Steve Bull is completely in your head - it's non-existent, Steve Bull spent most of his career outside of the top flight, Palmer was a completely different type of player and Crouch is in a far higher class than either of them. Crouch was second top scorer in the champions league last year Robert, that's proof enough alone that you're talking nonsense. Were those teams laughing too as Liverpool knocked them out on their root to the final? Clearly, they didnt have the last laugh. I've already ripped your weak argument about him only scoring against weak international teams to shreds. There are at least 15 weaker players than Crouch in the current England squad, why are you singling in him out? Fair enough, you obviously don't know much about England but why comment then.

Of course he is good enough, there are hundreds of international teams that would love to have him.


 

You do take it all too seriously don't you.

At no point have I suggested he's not good enough to be in the squad, just that the fact he is shows where we are in the world of football.  He's not better, internationally speaking, than the countries above us in the rankings.  It's an indctment of the Country's standard, not of Crouch.  He does what he does very well, although clearly not well enough to be a regular in Liverpools team.  Why? because the world has better players, quite a few in fact.

Is Robinson the best keeper in the world or close = no
Wes Brown = no
A Cole = no
Ferdinand = no
Terry = no
Lennon/SWP/Beckham = no
j Cole = no
Lampard = no
Gerrard = up there
Owen = on his day maybe
Rooney = could be
Crouch = no
Barry = no

etc etc

FFS, Darren Bent topped the scoring charts for English strikers for a bit only a year or so ago.  Does not mean the England team is of a decent standard.

Oh, and I was quite pro Bull getting a shot when he did.  Didn;t mean I thought we had a great team with him in it or that hes was world class.  He was just better than the other "does a good job" players at the time.
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« Reply #102 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 15:56:05 »

what about jermain defoe? is he injured?
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« Reply #103 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 16:14:16 »

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Yeah I'm sure they're really laughing whilst he knocks a hat-trick past them. He has proved himself at the highest levels in football time and time again. I mean any similarity between Crouch and Carlton Palmer or Steve Bull is completely in your head - it's non-existent, Steve Bull spent most of his career outside of the top flight, Palmer was a completely different type of player and Crouch is in a far higher class than either of them. Crouch was second top scorer in the champions league last year Robert, that's proof enough alone that you're talking nonsense. Were those teams laughing too as Liverpool knocked them out on their root to the final? Clearly, they didnt have the last laugh. I've already ripped your weak argument about him only scoring against weak international teams to shreds. There are at least 15 weaker players than Crouch in the current England squad, why are you singling in him out? Fair enough, you obviously don't know much about England but why comment then.

Of course he is good enough, there are hundreds of international teams that would love to have him.


 

You do take it all too seriously don't you.

At no point have I suggested he's not good enough to be in the squad, just that the fact he is shows where we are in the world of football.  He's not better, internationally speaking, than the countries above us in the rankings.  It's an indctment of the Country's standard, not of Crouch.  He does what he does very well, although clearly not well enough to be a regular in Liverpools team.  Why? because the world has better players, quite a few in fact.

Is Robinson the best keeper in the world or close = no
Wes Brown = no
A Cole = no
Ferdinand = no
Terry = no
Lennon/SWP/Beckham = no
j Cole = no
Lampard = no
Gerrard = up there
Owen = on his day maybe
Rooney = could be
Crouch = no
Barry = no

etc etc

FFS, Darren Bent topped the scoring charts for English strikers for a bit only a year or so ago.  Does not mean the England team is of a decent standard.

Oh, and I was quite pro Bull getting a shot when he did.  Didn;t mean I thought we had a great team with him in it or that hes was world class.  He was just better than the other "does a good job" players at the time.

Your point makes no sense, having a good player who's been very successful in the squad is just expected, it doesn't really say much about the standard of our team, except we have some very good players. He's certainly better than many players playing in teams above us in the rankings. Also 88 starts and another 38 sub appearances over the last 3 years suggests he is a regular for Liverpool.

 I would also say that Ferdinand, Terry, Joe Cole and Lampard are amongst the best in the world for their positions. The premiership is clearly the strongest league in the world at the moment (as shown by uefa's own rankings for the last 4 seasons) and they are all key players for the top two teams so you would have to say they are up there. Whether they've performed as well as they can for England is a different matter.
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« Reply #104 on: Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 16:18:26 »

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Ferdinand has been quality this season


You should know.

What with you being a closet Utd fan Wink
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