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flammableBen

« on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 01:06:21 »

I was wondering if there are any decent nooos paper articles or random web research out there which look at teams which replace their manager mid-season (sacking or leaving for better clubs); or people's memories is good.

As far as my anecdotal brain goes, teams which sack their manager tend to have a bit of a honeymoon period before slumping back a bit. Not sure about teams which have managers that leave for greater things. Of course Swindon are part of the latter and former over recent years.

I wasn't planning for this to be a Swindon discussion, more a topic about how teams do after a switch over. There must be plenty of examples from both sackings and better jobs from the last decade from the same level that we're at. But yeah, it is sort of relevant.
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 07:58:04 »

I recall a study into the new manager/honeymoon period a few years ago - basically it examined whether results improved after installing a new manager.

Obviously I can't be assed to search for it on the net now, but surprisingly they concluded No - on average there is no honeymoon period where things pick up results wise.

I'm sure encyclopaedia smeetonnia will remember the said study Smiley

Edit - OK, I can be arsed. Wow this study is 10 years old, how come I remember this but barely know what day it is!

http://www.le.ac.uk/sp/sf-review/97-98/97article7.html

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Using this procedure, we find that the average improvement recorded by the teams which did not terminate after the point of comparison is, in fact greater than that recorded by the teams which did terminate the manager, no matter whether the comparisons are made over 6, 12 or 18 matches before and after. In other words, the research shows that the average short term recovery in results produced by termination is not as great as that which would be expected in the normal course of events from a club experiencing comparable results which retains its manager.
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 08:00:59 »

there's a bit of one here:

http://www.le.ac.uk/sp/sf-review/97-98/97article7.html
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 08:01:58 »

and here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=7YVCwNJW1A8C&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=football+change+manager+performance&source=web&ots=j24Cp-AF1L&sig=c0La2WC27HZ7lwsae0Zgeord-_o#PPA264,M1
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 08:02:46 »

Cheers Axs, just edited my post, but you beat me Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 08:14:17 »

Norwich City looked dead and buried before sacking their manager.  The fans were shocked by Roeder's appointment but I guess they are warming to him now.  Perhaps we'll have a similar effect with MM!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 08:55:55 »

Palace a few years back IIRC - sacked whoever was in charge as they were near the bottom of the table then Dowie took them on an incredible run into the play-offs and into the Prem
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 09:29:56 »

bolton seem to be doing alright this season. But it can go both ways cant it, e.g. charlton last season
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 13:51:35 »

Roy Keane - Sunderland.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 17:03:30 »

Kevin Keegan - Newcastle  Cheesy

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 18:28:47 »

the success/failure of a team who sack/lose their manager mid season is completely and utterly decided by the quality of the new manager.

You lose King and get Iffy who is an even worse manager, you're asking for trouble.

You lose Jol and replace him with Ramos who is a better manager, you're going to push forward.
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