Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 15:33:48 » |
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i know what your saying reg and i dont disagree with you. but football is changing and if we get a new ground then thats the way it is. i always prefered the shrivvy road, and in the late 80-s to early 90-s it generated the best atmosphere imo. different people have good memories of grounds and stuff but times change. I accept that....the main reason why Shrivenham Road was better then, and I used to stand on the half way line myself, was because the fencing put up in the TE, made it almost impossible to see. My point is, when and if something happens on teh ground, then lets ensure that the possibility of a singing area at least is reatined where people who don't mind swearing, being a bit pissed up, singing and the occasional disagreement can still congregate.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 15:38:31 » |
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agree reg.clubs in new grounds do struggle to get those who congregated in singing areas to be together in their new grounds.i would deffo welcome what you say
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 15:46:07 » |
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agree reg.clubs in new grounds do struggle to get those who congregated in singing areas to be together in their new grounds.i would deffo welcome what you say It definitely doesn't want to be too big....
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 18:37:15 » |
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would be ace to get a copy of that
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sonic youth
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 18:58:29 » |
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i went in the TE for the first time ever this season and subsequent visits have varied wildly. sometimes the atmosphere is as dead as anywhere else and there seems to be quite a few boo boys/utter cocks wherever i stand.
if we ever redeveloped the CG i think it should be rebuilt around the TE as losing it would be a huge loss, not least in terms of tradition and history.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 20:14:02 » |
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A modest behind the goal free standing stand in the TE would be perfect, I for one would much prrefer any redevelopment of the CG being done on the existing site, with stands replaced with thought, not the souless bowl. The Ateyo end at Shitty is a nice example (although it hurts to say that). A spanking new main stand where the Arkells is would do the job - with the corporate stuff and little atmosphere, the a decent south stand, and similar at the stratton bank end. By keeping the same layout I hope people would stay in their current places for the match and the atmosphere could be easily retained. I perosnally enjoy the steepness of the south stand as you get a good view even from the corners, but still fell close to the pitch.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 20:56:12 » |
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There was talk years ago (shortly after the South/Intel Stand was completed) of redeveloping the Town End...which, after all, would be the easiest stand to redevelop. If I remember correctly, it involved taking the roof off and building another tier behind the existing tier. The new stand would have been a similar height to the Arkells/North and Intel/South Stands and would have been able to hold something in the region of 4,500.
I think the idea was swiftly dropped when (a) we became sh#t and (b) it became apparent that the days of piecemeal development of the County Ground were over. I’ve often thought that one of the things the County Ground has lacked is an imposing home ‘end’, but I’m not convinced a revamped Town End would have worked.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 22:00:01 » |
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.....reading this article about lack of atmosphere at Prem grounds, made me think of how lucky we are to still have the TE. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7168641.stm It may be small, a bit shit in terms of facilities, but as we can still stand, it is still capable of generating some atmosphere. I often still get a buzz of excitement when walking into the TE at 2 mins to 3......it somehow feels like a spirtitual home. I even see a few gnarled veterans from when I first started going in there 40 odd years ago. I suspect the scummers total demise coincided with nothing more than moving to a shit new ground, with no atmosphere. The loss of their beloved London Road being the death knell for the club. So.....given the current trends I think we should treasure the TE whiile we can and try to ensure that in any ground move or development effort is made to try and keep something of its essence alive. Rip out the seats and I will come back with me DM's again. Still wear a crombie....ask Mex. The noise, the smell of piss behind the wall and of course the surge when Eastoe to Mayes rattled one in who could forget that. The TE is merely a shadow of its previous life but granted, better than a lifeless new stadium. Pompey can still do it and thay have seats so why not us minus the 6.57 crew. Nobody can take away the memories.
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Marty McFly
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 22:04:24 » |
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The town end sounds great when your in it, but the way the acoustics are at the CG I still dont think its that loud. Generally the TE cant hear the away fans and vice versa. I always find you get a better atmosphere when the core of fans singing are next to the away end which is why our away atmosphere is always so good.
Fratton Park is still an old skool style ground and the atmosphere there has always been loud when I have seen us play there or watched them on TV. It seems a more compact ground and not quite so open as ours to leak noise. The fans are also right on the pitch and there equivalent to the TE is a bit bigger. Plus the whole ground seems to sing there.
I hate the new style grounds as the atmosphere isnt the same. Bringing back safe standing would be quality as I do miss the good old terraces, its all about standing up at football. I fear the atmosphere at grounds is dying though, its such a shame.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 22:06:24 » |
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The town end sounds great when your in it, but the way the acoustics are at the CG I still dont think its that loud. Generally the TE cant hear the away fans and vice versa. mansfield at home last year, nuff said.
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Marty McFly
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 22:14:06 » |
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The town end sounds great when your in it, but the way the acoustics are at the CG I still dont think its that loud. Generally the TE cant hear the away fans and vice versa. mansfield at home last year, nuff said. Thats why i said generally. That day was exceptional. Most match days that dont happen. I have been in the TE and not heard a peep from the away fans then someone in a different stand says they hardly heard the TE and the away fans were much louder. Apart from one off days like that our home atmosphere is nothing more than average. Saturday was the biggest home attendance of the year, the atmosphere was terrible though!! Away from home I think we have one of the loudest atmospheres and best away followings.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, January 3, 2008, 22:15:15 » |
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I used to think id never go in any other part of the ground than the TE.
But annoying stewarding and a lack of a bar changed all that.
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