all you postman-haters...

[Spud]

dont count on it.i can see many of the union members rejecting the proposals put to them.even if the union reccomend they accept the deal.

the improvements will be minimal and if posties cave in then all the strikes would have been a waste of time and would deem the union as useless.

i think the outcome will probably be to accept the offer but it will be a close call.and if it goes either way it wont surprise me

Well what you can see and what i know from working inside the Mail Centre are two different matters altogether, most people who have been out on industrial action are thankful that an agreement has been agreed and i can't see many people not agreeing to it.

I wasn't out on strike because of the pay situation, my main gripe was the flexibilty side of things.

[herthab]

No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London.

Workshy, grasping cunts...............................

[Spud]

No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London.

Workshy, grasping cunts...............................

Yeah i don't really understand what their problem is?, all the other delivery office's have carried on working with the new start times.

Place's like Liverpool and Glasgow are extremely militant though.

[Arriba]

dont count on it.i can see many of the union members rejecting the proposals put to them.even if the union reccomend they accept the deal.

the improvements will be minimal and if posties cave in then all the strikes would have been a waste of time and would deem the union as useless.

i think the outcome will probably be to accept the offer but it will be a close call.and if it goes either way it wont surprise me

Well what you can see and what i know from working inside the Mail Centre are two different matters altogether, most people who have been out on industrial action are thankful that an agreement has been agreed and i can't see many people not agreeing to it.

I wasn't out on strike because of the pay situation, my main gripe was the flexibilty side of things.

i know it was the condtions more than money.and you can obviously give the opinions of your fellow workers in the mail centre.
but remember this is a national dispute, so not all workplaces will be of the same opinion.
as nobody knows what the agreement is yet, we can only speculate anyway.

[yeo]

I thought it was more about robbing your pensions?

[Arriba]

No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London.

Workshy, grasping cunts...............................

or maybe proud people with spirit and fight, who will give up many days pay  to fight for a cause they believe in?

[Arriba]

pensions,earning potential,flexible working,redundancy package reductions,etc,etc

[TalkTalk]

Sigh. If you don't like your pay and conditions then fuck off and get a job where you do like them.

 :wall:

Bloody quasi-public sector businesses.

[herthab]

No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London.

Workshy, grasping cunts...............................

or maybe proud people with spirit and fight, who will give up many days pay  to fight for a cause they believe in?

Maybe, but I think my reason are more likely............

[Arriba]

customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely.

i thought you'd be backing the posties?
do a bit of research on it.it'll change your attitude i'm convinced of that.
posties are trying to protect what they have, not ask for more.
is that unreasonable?

[TalkTalk]

customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely.

Well we shall see. Take the monopoly away and see how the free market responds. I tell you, Royal Mail would be dead within a year. It is top heavy, over staffed, has too many unrealistic expectations and is just like any other public sector organisation.

i thought you'd be backing the posties?
do a bit of research on it.it'll change your attitude i'm convinced of that.
posties are trying to protect what they have, not ask for more.
is that unreasonable?

When the rest of us fuckers have to run businesses, compete, fight tooth and nail to make a living then yes, it is.

[Spud]

customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely.

Well we shall see. Take the monopoly away and see how the free market responds. I tell you, Royal Mail would be dead within a year. It is top heavy, over staffed, has too many unrealistic expectations and is just like any other public sector organisation.

Errrrrrrrm yes ok, the fact is there is no competition, TNT & DHL currently pay us to deliver their mail so go figure.

Over staffed!?, hahahaha just show's what little you know, we've never been so under staffed.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

There's always courier    

[Arriba]

the monopoly was taken away some time ago talk talk.fact is other companys take the profitable part away from royal mail by uncutting them.then as spud has pointed out,pay royal mail to do the bit that isn't profitable,ie posting letters.royal mail do this part as they are legally obliged to do so.thats good fair buisness sense from our government eh?

for someone who normally is quite clued up on subjects.i'm a bit disapointed with your narrowminded drivel on this one.

if royal mail was treated as a public service and left alone then it would be fine as it was in years past.
constant changes,cutbacks,and closures have dragged the royal mail backwards and both staff and customers are suffering for it.

[TalkTalk]

Fair enough.

I just think striking is completely counter productive. Nobody wins.

And it doesn't happen in the "real" commercial world. Hence my comments about quasi-public sector organisations.