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« Reply #30 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 08:28:03 » |
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don't they get all food,clothes,laundry bills, ski holidays and school fees or is that just officers? Thats what I thought....i'd be happy if after all my bills and expenses I had £18K a year left in my bank after tax!! Is it just the higher officers that get all these things paid for then? If so thats not right but still I think for a young person joining, £18K is still not bad. I had to work my way up from £11K when I started....albeit I didnt get shot at in my office so didn't quite require the same level of patriotism or bravery! But still I got by and worked my way up the ladder and now I'm doing very well....surely the army lads have to do the same do they not? just with a few more work 'hazards' and a lot less job security
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« Reply #31 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 08:44:12 » |
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Whilst I think the armed forces do an invaluable job, one I undoubtedly would want to do for any salary, the wages are known before you sign up so like any profession I find it hard to accept complaints on salary. If you want to do the job accept the conditions, if you don't want to work for that level of salary do a different job.
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« Reply #32 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 09:00:20 » |
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To be honest the army could offer me £100k a year to go out to Iraq and I'd still say no. £18k is really not that bad for a youngster. Fair play to them for signing up though, someones got to. I started on 8 to 9k only 8 years ago  Thankfully I'm on a hell of a lot more nowadays.
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« Reply #33 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:30:32 » |
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£1500 take home each month is quite good imo. Fair enough he's going to war etc, but he chose that career path.
IMO all key workers, force members etc should be on decent money. My mrs is a nurse, and they get fuck all.
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« Reply #34 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:37:28 » |
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A private in the Infantry, after training is on less than 15 grand a year.
Out of that he has to pay tax, NI and council Tax.
He is also charged for accomadation and food.
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« Reply #35 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 12:42:32 » |
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A private in the Infantry, after training is on less than 15 grand a year.
Out of that he has to pay tax, NI and council Tax.
He is also charged for accomadation and food. Correct Hertha
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« Reply #36 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 12:53:04 » |
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A private in the Infantry, after training is on less than 15 grand a year.
Out of that he has to pay tax, NI and council Tax.
He is also charged for accomadation and food. Correct Hertha i think that is fucking wrong, pay them well!!! at least reward them for fighting for our country properly :?
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« Reply #37 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 16:38:37 » |
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Without wanting to be called a cunt again,
A private is on £15k - what career progression would he/she have? It's my impression that there's pretty good chances to move up if you want it/you're good at your job/your dad knows someone.
and... (again a serious question) where would the money come from to pay these guys more? Taxes are already too high and Labour are already under pressure for the next election.
Finally - privates have to pay for their own accommodation? That is wrong.
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« Reply #38 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 16:40:31 » |
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let's not forget that they do get to shoot guns, and drive big fucking tanks though, don't they?
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« Reply #39 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 16:47:08 » |
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some people might say that the job the armed forces do is "fucking disgusting", and the pay is pretty reasonable. free travel to sunny climbs too. and as arriba says, nobody made them do it, i wasn't aware it was military policy to keep details of renumeration hidden until after service.
there are plenty of disproportionately paid jobs - teachers and nurses for a start, who deserve a rise way before them
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« Reply #40 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 17:13:57 » |
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A private in the Infantry, after training is on less than 15 grand a year.
Out of that he has to pay tax, NI and council Tax.
He is also charged for accomadation and food. Question - do they pay Income Tax & NI when they are serving overseas (Iraq/Afghan)? Note that the US Forces DO NOT pay any taxes if they are ordered overseas to a war zone, which serves as an incentive to get them to go.
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« Reply #41 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 21:00:44 » |
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I agree that it is a very poor wage for such a high-risk job, but I have to agree with Hansgruber that there is no way they CAN be paid more. If they decided each member of the army should earn £2,000 more per year then taxes would surely have to go up and everybody would be complaining about it I'm just hoping for a day when this issue becomes irrelevant because our contry is not at war. Seems a long way off though 
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« Reply #42 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 21:07:03 » |
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Without wanting to be called a cunt again,
A private is on £15k - what career progression would he/she have? It's my impression that there's pretty good chances to move up if you want it/you're good at your job/your dad knows someone.
and... (again a serious question) where would the money come from to pay these guys more? Taxes are already too high and Labour are already under pressure for the next election.
Finally - privates have to pay for their own accommodation? That is wrong. I wont call you a cunt but how many of these youngsters will progress once they have been to iraq.They will be dead or sent insane by what they have seen
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« Reply #43 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 21:08:24 » |
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I agree that it is a very poor wage for such a high-risk job, but I have to agree with Hansgruber that there is no way they CAN be paid more. If they decided each member of the army should earn £2,000 more per year then taxes would surely have to go up and everybody would be complaining about it I'm just hoping for a day when this issue becomes irrelevant because our contry is not at war. Seems a long way off though  Well they could make them Tax exempt when in combat situations.Though they might be anyway.
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« Reply #44 on: Monday, July 9, 2007, 22:12:18 » |
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Well they could make them Tax exempt when in combat situations.Though they might be anyway.
Unfortunately, they are not tax and NI exempt whilst on tour/ops, as they get paid onshore by HM Treasury. However, having said that they are privy to certain allowances whilst away. BUT, those allowances are rolled in with their gross pay, which guess what................................. They get taxed on
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