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« Reply #15 on: Friday, April 27, 2007, 15:50:46 » |
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Where does the money go Hopefully it'll be filtered down to those lower league clubs in need...........  As if! More chance of me getting blow job off Kate Moss Oh... just thought aren't the FA negotiating what to pay Newcastle in compensation for his injuries in the World Cup..... It wasn't £5.5 Million that they were asking for was it? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/6557067.stm |
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« Reply #16 on: Friday, April 27, 2007, 19:54:34 » |
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I'm sure their parachute payment will cover it.  about 6m so i hear?? I don't quite get what its all about tbh |
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« Reply #17 on: Friday, April 27, 2007, 20:06:00 » |
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Where does the money go Hopefully it'll be filtered down to those lower league clubs in need........... As if! More chance of me getting blow job off Kate Moss should just about cover svens wages for a few months |
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:09:15 » |
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I think its sour grapes with the other clubs trying to sue west ham/fa of non-deduction of points. Get over it. If you go down its cos you're shit.
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If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit...
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:14:55 » |
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Rules are rules. Fielding an illegable player has resulted in teams being thrown out of cups and deducted points. No consistancy.
If the punishment for fielding ineligible players is a heft fine then so be it. But it leaves it open for other clubs to do the same thing 'accidently on purpose' in the future.
Other than that I really don't care who goes down.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:30:34 » |
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Rules are rules. Fielding an illegable player has resulted in teams being thrown out of cups and deducted points. No consistancy.
If the punishment for fielding ineligible players is a heft fine then so be it. But it leaves it open for other clubs to do the same thing 'accidently on purpose' in the future.
Other than that I really don't care who goes down. Dont think it was fielding an inelligable player was what they were done for. It was for breaking rules on 3rd party ownership of players. |
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Vi er best i verden! Vi er best i verden! Vi har slått England 2-1 i fotball!! Det er aldeles utrolig! Vi har slått England! England, kjempers fødeland. Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana--vi har slått dem alle sammen. Vi har slått dem alle sammen. Maggie Thatcher can you hear me?
Your boys took a hell of a beating!"
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:42:51 » |
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Surely if they broke rules on signing a player owned by a 3rd party the transfer is not deemed legitamate and therefor he should not be playing?
Then again he is still playing so ??
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:46:10 » |
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This really has to stop. Stop the winging and the whining and do the talking on the pitch on Sunday afternoon.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 11:29:59 » |
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SwindonTartanArmy is right. Tevez was legally registered with the FA and Premier League, therefore eligible to play in the league and the cup.
The problem lies with his ownership. West Ham techinically loaned him from his management company rather than Corinthians, which is against the rules.
Other clubs don't have a leg to stand on with these accusations that they're going to sue West Ham.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 11:36:24 » |
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Rules are rules. Fielding an illegable player has resulted in teams being thrown out of cups and deducted points. No consistancy.
If the punishment for fielding ineligible players is a heft fine then so be it. But it leaves it open for other clubs to do the same thing 'accidently on purpose' in the future.
Other than that I really don't care who goes down. Tevez wasn't inelligible though, the fine was because of third party ownership. Nowt wrong with him playing. |
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 11:53:30 » |
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This whole Tevez ting is pissing me off, fuck off Whelan if you're team was half decent they woul;dn't find themselves in the position they are in.
Come on West Ham, relegate the egg chasing town of Wigan.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 11:57:03 » |
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OK, I'm confused now then.
Are you allowed to play players 'owned' by a 3rd party?
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 12:11:14 » |
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 13:09:43 » |
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Cheers.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, May 10, 2007, 14:08:53 » |
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This bollocks about both players being legally registered to play for the club is just semantics. If the signings were subject to an illegal agreement with a 3rd party I fail to see how they can be regarded as legal!
I think there are a couple of fundamental points that everyone is ignoring.
Ask yourself this question - Would West Ham have been able to sign these players without this breach of rule 18?
I think we all know that the answer is no. When the signing was announced the whole of football and the media said, "How the hell have they managed that?". As a result the club were questioned in detail by the Premier League about the terms of the signing and contracts, and made repeated statements denying any 3rd party interest in the players. They DID NOT make a "mistake" as the BBC site puts it, they knew what they were doing and bloody lied about it!
As a result they had the advantage of being able to field players that otherwise they could not have afforded, giving them an unfair advantage over the other clubs at the bottom of the league. I can therefore well understand why the other clubs are pissed off.
When we got caught running a bit of a cash wages fiddle in order to be able to afford the signings of Calderwood, Foley and a few other 3rd division cloggers we initially got RELEGATED TWO DIVISIONS AND FINED. They ran a fiddle that allowed them to sign two young Argentine world cup stars and they don't lose a single point!
Doesn't that piss you off at all?
The most important thing though is this:
"The commission concluded that a deduction of points "would normally follow from such a breach of rules".
So there is NO ARGUMENT about whether the offence SHOULD be punished by a points deduction, the commission say as much, they've just decided not to this time.
And one of the reasons why points wouldn't be deducted? Because it might mean relegation! Talk about a bottle job.
So tot that lot up and tell me that you wouldn't think about legal action:
1 - The league have allowed one club an unfair advantage in the fight to avoid relegation. No-one else was allowed to sign players on this basis, and one of the players signed in this way played a central role in securing 4 of West Hams last 6 wins.
2 - All precident has been ignored as far as punishment is concerned
3 - The commission admit that they've not applied the accepted rules in terms of punishment
Frankly the whole thing stinks and I can't believe that any of you think the way it's been handled is OK.
If we'd done something like this we'd have been looking at a place in the nationwide next season if we were lucky.
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