Samdy Gray
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« Reply #45 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:31:37 » |
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In fairness you did ask if Fred has heard anything, it is not really his place to say (we agree!).
Seems to be a fair few people saying it has happened though. Could be internet guff, but I have my doubts. I think we'll know by Monday morning. But all this 'internet guff' has come from one source who is extremely close to the consortium. If anyone had an ounce of sense they'd realise who it is and would see we're not talking utter bollocks. |
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« Reply #46 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:32:52 » |
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I only asked him Batch, cos he said "I am afraid that the moment has now come that we cannot play the "dignified, calm heads" approach any further".
Let's hope it is just all internet guff eh?
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« Reply #47 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:34:03 » |
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Ok sam_stfc - clearly I have no ounce of sense!! Who?
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Samdy Gray
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« Reply #48 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:34:11 » |
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Two voted 'lets wait longer'.
Gazza and Maverick, you're on your own gents.
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« Reply #49 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:34:42 » |
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« Reply #50 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:35:04 » |
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Ok sam_stfc - clearly I have no ounce of sense!! Who? how come fred hasnt told me?  |
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« Reply #51 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:37:19 » |
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No. If they renegotiate the CVA I see no point in the 100k being paid off outside the restructure. £1m @100K p/a over 10 years or 900k @ 90K per annum over 10 years. Makes no odds to the creditors or the club really.
Of course you may be right, paying the 100K may buy time to renegotiate the remainder because the CVA will be (properly) up to date whilst negotiations continue.
Personally I'd rather have somebody in who a) can pay off this debt in its entirety thus freeing funds for other things (hopefully players) b) has a realistic chance of getting the council onside in regards to the CG redevelopment c) doesn't treat it's own fans (customers) like shit and doesn't feed them with popetual lies and half truths.
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« Reply #52 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:41:36 » |
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Is the 10 year plan what they are going for? I knew they were supposedly renegotiating, but not the terms.
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« Reply #53 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:42:42 » |
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Well I could be wrong. It's happened before  edit: Can't find the source that I read 10 years now, only a non-specific "variance...over longer period of time" |
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #54 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:47:03 » |
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What rumours?
Personally stakeholder theory dictates that us fans, as a collective, have the most power and interest in this club. In other words it can't survive unless it keeps us informed and active (and happy?).
If any action was to be taken a boycott would be most effective.
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« Reply #55 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:47:41 » |
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The terms are supposedly 10 years but if they cannot meet the current agreement, then surely the administrater can take up talks if there is a offer on the table.
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« Reply #56 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 20:59:33 » |
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If talks have collapsed, the only way is to not go to games. Stakeholder theory suggests that the fans are the most important part of this club (and business) and so should be involved and informed of all relevant decisions. This hasn't been the case. On the contrary, we've been kept in the dark, lied to and slagged off. I was saying to my brother I was optimistic about these talks and there has been no bad press with regards to the fans recently. I was considering going to the game next Saturday - I may have changed my mind. For all the people calling me a mug for boycotting before, I hope you see my point.
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« Reply #57 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 21:25:31 » |
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If we don't take action now
We settle for nothing later
Settle for nothing now
And we'll settle for nothing later
If we don't take action now
We settle for nothing later
We'll settle for nothing now
And we'll settle for nothing later
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« Reply #58 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 21:31:03 » |
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There will be a statement from the club within the next 48 hrs.
THIS IS NO FUCKING INTERNET GUFF !!!!!
STFC Board = Planet Fucking Cuckoo Land
I am fucking ANGRY ! :twisted:
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« Reply #59 on: Saturday, February 10, 2007, 21:33:15 » |
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Fred. Can you tell us why the talks broke down?
And is that definitely the end of the road?
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