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« on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 16:58:53 »

Bit cold off the press in fact it may already be built but thought I’d fire this up if anyone’s interested…

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04/03/05 St Modwen to develop £5million Hungerford canal marina scheme
A ten-acre former piggeries site at Hungerford, Berkshire, has been acquired by  Shaw Park Developments, a joint venture between St Modwen Properties PLC and the vendor, the  Wills Family, to be redeveloped to create a major canal marina and mixed-use scheme on the Kennet & Avon Canal.

The canalside site on Bath Road, two miles from the town centre,  has detailed planning consent for a 120-berth marina, a hotel, pub/restaurant, a hertiage museum and small business units.
Rupert Joseland, St Modwen’s South West regional manager, said: “This is a good opportunity to turn a derelict piggery into an excellent facility on the Kennet & Avon Canal, which has the full support of British Waterways.

“The marina and other elements of the scheme, including the hotel and pub/restaurant will provide a destination for both canal and road users. Now that planning permission has been granted, we will be looking to commence works this summer with a marina operator.”


http://www.stmodwen.co.uk/news/ne_com294a.html

No mention of any stadiums   Cheesy

Shaw Park developments is the company set up between the Wills’, Bob Holt and Sandy Gray with St Modwen when we attempted to develop on the old Shaw tip a few years ago.

According to the accounts ending 2004 we owed approx 2.5 million in secured loans to the company.  Putting two and eight together I’d wager the land being developed is presumably the Wills’ land used to secure the loan.
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« Reply #1 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 17:05:55 »

Good spot Dazzza,  wonder why nobody spotted it earlier?
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Piemonte

« Reply #2 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 18:41:04 »

Good.

More money for the Wills to pump into STFC, which obviously they are obliged to do  floghorse
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« Reply #3 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 20:16:54 »

I still beleive Shaw Tip was and still is the best option. I've never seen it used. They still have the 'tip' sign up where the kebab van parks.

If it were there, peeps could come to mine for a cuppa before the match then walk to the game!  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 20:52:17 »

Will Piemonte the taxman would only get it if they didnt.

They have drip fed this club for years- its well overdue for a total new broom in the boardroom
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« Reply #5 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 21:10:04 »

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I still beleive Shaw Tip was and still is the best option. I've never seen it used. They still have the 'tip' sign up where the kebab van parks.

If it were there, peeps could come to mine for a cuppa before the match then walk to the game!  Cheesy


Shaw Tip had its advantages as you have mentioned in that post but the main concern would have been traffic. the roads round the area are only small residential roads and mead way gets busy enough in rush hour on a working day. just think how busy it and the other roads nearby would get if a stadium was there. it just wouldn't be viable. also you can't beat the NIMBYs
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 21:12:59 »

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Quote from: "stfcfan"
I still beleive Shaw Tip was and still is the best option. I've never seen it used. They still have the 'tip' sign up where the kebab van parks.

If it were there, peeps could come to mine for a cuppa before the match then walk to the game!  Cheesy


Shaw Tip had its advantages as you have mentioned in that post but the main concern would have been traffic. the roads round the area are only small residential roads and mead way gets busy enough in rush hour on a working day. just think how busy it and the other roads nearby would get if a stadium was there. it just wouldn't be viable. also you can't beat the NIMBYs


There are still plans to connect great western way wih the new dual carrigway  that goes through prior vale / rabbi meads (thamesdown drive?) I think. That would have solved a lot of the problem. I'd have just walked and got pissed though Smiley  Stupid nimbys :x

not that any of this matters at all because its deader than fatburys love life - its more intresting than doing the work I'm supposed to be doing thogh :boring:
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« Reply #7 on: Monday, October 16, 2006, 22:48:35 »

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They still have the 'tip' sign up where the kebab van parks.

Not true.

There are now two signs.

One for the contractors who are finishing the leachate and venting works - which is required by law. The other (very large) sign has been put up by Swindon Borough Council (yes - SBC) says "SHAW FOREST PARK" and also has a map of the park.

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I still beleive Shaw Tip was and still is the best option. I've never seen it used.

Well perhaps if you get your arse up there on Sunday you might like to observe many people enjoying a family day doing stuff and planting more trees.

http://www.forestweb.org.uk/

Get your facts right before you post shite, eh?
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:11:21 »

Arf! You've been told!

We all know that Shaw Forest isn't needed, considering we have Lydiard on our doorsteps already... Wink
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:19:48 »

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Well perhaps if you get your arse up there on Sunday you might like to observe many people enjoying a family day doing stuff and planting more trees.

http://www.forestweb.org.uk/

Get your facts right before you post shite, eh?


NIMBY alert NIMBY Alert

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:21:06 »

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Arf! You've been told!

We all know that Shaw Forest isn't needed, considering we have Lydiard on our doorsteps already... Wink


Its true, theres no need for a wink.

Its the most pointless project ever, it will never be nice up there - its always going to be trees on a tip - regardless of how many well meaning tree huggers are up there trying to increase their house prices.

And I say that as a west Swindon resident, not someone who is especially bitter at STFC not having a new stadium built there :|
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:33:22 »

Shaw Tip was closed about 18 months ago due to the prohibitive costs of new Environmental legislations. The current park, open to the public, is situated on the old Peatmoor Tip (which closed in the 80s). Landscaping work is still ongoing at Peatmoor and landscaping work on Shaw will start shortly.

The council holds landscape plans for the area and I think it will be a lovely park once finished (although I would have preferred the footy stadium  Wink ).
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:44:41 »

There was of course the small matter that the Council had already promised the land and was in no position to suggest it for a Stadium, and the traffic issue was a real one having worked in that area.

The CG is the best option if done correctly.

I thought Shaw Park Development had been wound-up, might be wrong, suggesting the investment vehicle had changed (which is what it was, a way to protect funds from being consumed by the club)
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 08:49:38 »

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I thought Shaw Park Development had been wound-up, might be wrong, suggesting the investment vehicle had changed (which is what it was, a way to protect funds from being consumed by the club)

Shaw Park Developments Ltd is still very much alive and kicking, Rob. Knowing what St Modwen have done elsewhere in the past there was no way they were going to walk away from their investment with STFC. The Hungerford K&A marina scheme is an ideal way to realise that, particularly if it isSSW's land that has been used (or was it more security for St M?). Good spot Dazzza.

Swindon Town Properties Limited (as in Front Garden stadium) has been wound up.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 09:15:35 »

Th CG isn't going to work (i don't think).  The Triangle out on the Front Garden (or anywhere there) is the perfect place, but alas not to be.
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