Wise quitting after wycombe game

[Spencer_White]

Chris K, whilst I understand you frustration at younger posters on here bandwagon jumping, you have to understand its not all young posters causing trouble. This is a fans forum, and we are here to discuss what we think, not to put up some propaganda facade for Wise (who is already quite aware of what is happening). What difference does it make if he is here for another 3 days or another month? He knows he is only harming his career by working with (or against as it would be) a board with no serious ambition whatsoever.

And to Reg, please no to a Trust Run club. Id love to see Devlin form some sort of consortium, he is super talented im sure he could do it, just a question of whether he would want to. Im sure Power had the idea of a gradual progression over to himself. Obviously to get to that situation the current boards position would have to become significantly weaker. And the only way to get a quick fix to that situation is serious protest and real action.

The board have been too powerful for too long. The fact that they have brushed off Power so easily is a real sickening shock to me.

[Fred Elliot]

I would rather have a trust run club then these idiots running the club.

OK what actual FACTS do you know then you fucking skanky cock.

You are just like all the rest

Why dont you crawl away under your rock and come back when you have got something decent to post based on facts.

CUNT

[denniswisesbarmyarmy]

I reckon a fairly decent and well aimed protest, directed at SSW and his  family, would see them out.....the rest including Diamandis are only in place because of his patronage......this is the problem how to organise this, and also if fans really have the stomach for it given SSW's patronage down the years.

 and someone with good football knowledge and has our best interests at heart takes over.

Who, then?

You really are a cock.

Are you REALLY willing to force out SSW without anyone in the sidelines ready to take over?

You are either thick or don't realise that the moment we need to pay the first set of bills - probably the first round of wages for that month - we'll be fucked and straight into administration scuppering any chance whatsoever of going up this season.

Do you want to be stuck in this godforsaken league for another year?

You should take a look at the amount of people who joined in sack the board yesterday. I was sat in front of them, it was about 30 - max. Do you REALLY think you are going to get any more on board without something like Devlin or Wise going?

If they do, I'll be first at the reception door to make my feelings know.

Until then, all you are doing is helping Wise to make up his mind about going. He probably reads forums like this and he's probably reading this right now.

So if you and Bart want to carry on ranting like 15 year olds who think they can change the world, then carry on and see where it takes us. Personally all you're going to do is help Wise out of the door.

As things stand Wise IS still here, so why don't you shut the fuck up until something happens THEN we'll sort it out.

Until now Power has gone because of ill health - and we know no more than that. Anything else written here is pure speculation and you know it.

Stop making matters worse.

While i agree with a few things you have said i disagree with most of it, do you really think Devlin wont get the sack? do you really think that wise is going to stay? you know they will both be gone shortly.

Also do you really think Bill Power left because of health reasons? he was forced out but it's came out as ill health so the board dont get criticised, it's obvious its a cover up.

By posting on here we are not encourgaing wise to leave at all he will be going anyway.

I would rather take my chances and get this board out now and hope someone comes in, sorry but its true, do you really want these idiots to stay in control of this club after everything that has happened? no-one in their right mind would want them here now.

I was at the game yesterday, i know only around 30 chanted sack the board etc but there will be alot more chanting it saturday when devlin has been sacked and if wise has gone by then as well half the ground will be chanting it.

[Spencer_White]

And as for the debt Chris, its a question of SSW/Dunwoody cutting a deal. The value at 10 million. They will never ever get anywhere near that, not now not ever.

If we can weakin them it might force a deal to an investor. While we are still top of the league, with a 7500 average we are attractive to an investor. If we sink to div 3 mediocrity no one will invest.

[Spencer_White]

With all due respect 'denniswisesbarmyarmy' youre posts are more of a hindrance than a help. You are brand new, you are not articulate, calling people idiots and to be quite frank you are a no mark.

To the others, stop picking on an easy targets and face some reality.

[Panda Paws]

Chris K, whilst I understand you frustration at younger posters on here bandwagon jumping, you have to understand its not all young posters causing trouble. This is a fans forum, and we are here to discuss what we think, not to put up some propaganda facade for Wise (who is already quite aware of what is happening). What difference does it make if he is here for another 3 days or another month? He knows he is only harming his career by working with (or against as it would be) a board with no serious ambition whatsoever.

Alright Spencer ...

There's too much bandwagon jumping, yes. But this guy doesn't have any discussion in him hence my frustration with him. Try and pin him down to specifics and he's sadly lacking with his grand plan for the club.

I'm trying to say it isn't necessarily best for the club to force the current board out, inept as they are, without some kind of idea of what comes next. We could make matters horribly worse here and he must be very careful.

The worse case scenaio is we get them ousted and nobody steps up to take over and we end up either in admistration or bust. You know it's possible so why force the issue without any kind of proof of wrong doing.

You say Power being "brushed off" was sickening. How do we know he was "brushed off"? We've not heard anything from Power to suggest this to be the case. Let's wait until we know the facts before we make a fuss out of potentially nothing. How do you not know the pull-out was entirely down to ill health?

This is all madness.

We can't listen to this minority - and they are a huge minority - until we know exactly what's going on.

If Wise or Devlin goes I'm with them. But they haven't yet.

[Panda Paws]

And as for the debt Chris, its a question of SSW/Dunwoody cutting a deal. The value at 10 million. They will never ever get anywhere near that, not now not ever.

If we can weakin them it might force a deal to an investor. While we are still top of the league, with a 7500 average we are attractive to an investor. If we sink to div 3 mediocrity no one will invest.

That's a fair point. But we don't know that in investor will come in.

[Spencer_White]

n/t

[Panda Paws]

While i agree with a few things you have said i disagree with most of it, do you really think Devlin wont get the sack? do you really think that wise is going to stay? you know they will both be gone shortly.

No, I don't know that for a fact, and neither do you.

Also do you really think Bill Power left because of health reasons? he was forced out but it's came out as ill health so the board dont get criticised, it's obvious its a cover up.

You don't know this for a fact either. Show me some proof.

By posting on here we are not encourgaing wise to leave at all he will be going anyway.

Oh I think you know full well the board reads this forum. I wouldn't be surprised if Wise does too.

I would rather take my chances and get this board out now and hope someone comes in, sorry but its true, do you really want these idiots to stay in control of this club after everything that has happened? no-one in their right mind would want them here now.

I was at the game yesterday, i know only around 30 chanted sack the board etc but there will be alot more chanting it saturday when devlin has been sacked and if wise has gone by then as well half the ground will be chanting it.

Take your chances and send us bust? No thanks.

IF (big if) Devlin goes I'll join in the chants. Until then, he's still here and so is Wise, so this argument is pointless.[/quote]

[Panda Paws]

Spence - to your 'deleted' post - how did you come about this info?

I'm not knocking you... you've been around here as long as me ... but there's so much speculation and 'mate of a mate said' info here I'm really getting doubtful of it all.

[Red Len]

[/quote]As things stand Wise IS still here, so why don't you shut the fuck up until something happens THEN we'll sort it out.

Until now Power has gone because of ill health - and we know no more than that. Anything else written here is pure speculation and you know it.

Stop making matters worse.[/quote]

Amen to that. This forum really seems to be living up to its 80% bollocks premise, most of it posted in the last week!

Wisey made the effort to come onto the pitch and applaud the fans efforts yesterday. Didn't strike me as the demeanour of a man about to chip off after 10 games in charge. I may well be proved wrong, but like Dennis I see little point in commenting on counterproductive speculation. Surely, in respect of this subject matter, its much better to comment on what we really do know?

[Spencer_White]

Spence - to your 'deleted' post - how did you come about this info?

I'm not knocking you... you've been around here as long as me ... but there's so much speculation and 'mate of a mate said' info here I'm really getting doubtful of it all.

Im affraid it really is that shady. This Dunwoody is not a cosure outfit (you dont need me to tell you that, what business doesnt release accounts for 4 years!). I would ask why you have so much faith in them?

Devlin is gone on monday. If not by the end of the week. Youve said you will believe more when he is gone, so I hope you will be true to your word. They might well delay it until after the fans meeting, which would be a good tactical move, they hold most of the cards. I could give you names of the people who have been letting out information, but whats is the point? They are minor and their names of no importance. This is an all out split 50/50 through the top of the club. The way so many people have been reluctant to listen has been an amazement to me. If Dunwoody pull it off its the greatest PR stunt ive ever seen, and that through Bob Holt!

Otherwise Town fans will get to know in small installments. Thus negating the rage. That rage is what I feel at the moment.

[Panda Paws]

Hallelujah, brother.

[Panda Paws]

Spence - to your 'deleted' post - how did you come about this info?

I'm not knocking you... you've been around here as long as me ... but there's so much speculation and 'mate of a mate said' info here I'm really getting doubtful of it all.

Im affraid it really is that shady. This Dunwoody is not a cosure outfit (you dont need me to tell you that, what business doesnt release accounts for 4 years!). I would ask why you have so much faith in them?

I don't, mate. I just have no faith in a white knight or whatever coming in and saving us if we get them out.

Devlin is gone on monday. If not by the end of the week. Youve said you will believe more when he is gone, so I hope you will be true to your word. I could give you names of the people who have been letting out information, but whats is the point? They are minor and their names of no importance. This is an all out split 50/50 through the top of the club. The way so many people have been reluctant to listen has been an amazement to me. If Dunwoody pull it off its the greatest PR stunt ive ever seen, and that through Bob Holt!

Otherwise Town fans will get to know in small installments. Thus negating the rage. That rage is what I feel at the moment.

I guarantee you - if this pans out as has been predicted I'll be shoulder to shoulder with the current minority, but I don't believe things until I know them to be true and I've seen them with my own eyes.

It's not happened yet so I'm just trying, in my haphazard way, to appeal for calm and for a stop to damaging speculation.

[Samdy Gray]

Spencer's posts are the only ones that seem to make sense amongst all this mess, I'm totally in agreement with everything he says.

Go back and read his posts from a few days ago when this farce started, you'll see what I mean.