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« Reply #45 on: Monday, June 5, 2006, 13:16:15 » |
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I've seen him play enough games at League level to not really rate him as an International class player (not as a World beater anyway). He has produced much better displays for England than at club level (maybe the benefit of having someone like Owen with him? which he doesn't get for Liverpool).
I don't doubt he can have an impact, and hasn't been a useless waste of space in the past 2 seasons. However, given the choice there would be quite a few players I'd take in the league over him, but strangely I think he just hits it off for England in a different way.
I always thought Platt was another player who seemed much better for England than for his clubs (to me anyway).
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, June 5, 2006, 13:37:41 » |
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Crouchs strength is difference. Every defence regularly comes up against the standard strikers, (the quick ones, the ones built like brick out houses) but Crouch is not a regular striker, which is where he gets his effectiveness from. Good to see him hitting the net though and can only be a good thing leading into the world cup.
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janaage
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 08:14:15 » |
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jamaica are woeful at the moment they didnt even get into the final group stages of the concacaf qualifiers they were pipped by mexico usa costa rica, trinidad and tobago, guatemala and fuckin panama. thats poor.
even so good result. Not sure if this has been mentioned as I've only read the thread to Mex's post. But to back up Mex a result from last week - Ghana 4 Jamaica 1 Says it all really. Fair play though gives the players and the management a bit of pre tournament confidence.
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 08:42:52 » |
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Ghana aren't a bad team. Worth noting also, USA 1 - Jamaica 1 a couple of months back and USA are ranked higher than England according to FIFA whilst Jamaica are ranked above Trinidad and Tobago.
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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 08:46:07 » |
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Groan.I think we read way too much into friendlies.If we lose them we're shit and if we win them we're brilliant.
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 09:01:37 » |
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For the world cup the results of these friendlies doesn't really matter but one thing is clear, Scotland wouldn't be able to beat them.
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 11:55:31 » |
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Not sure what relevance Scotland is to this thread, from all the bitching going on about "why don't Scots support England?" in the media recently, I'd say you're fuelling the Scots arguements. I make a comment about Jamaica's recent performances and you talk about Scotland? Strange.
For what it's worth I'd be extremely confident that Scotland could beat Jamaica, at home, with little hardship.
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 11:57:27 » |
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I reckon Scotland would give England a good run for their money at the moment
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 12:01:33 » |
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Wouldn't say that just yet Si-pie, maybe in a couple of years, but it's a rather large maybe!!
Having said that if Northern Ireland can give you a fair game, I'd say any one has a chance.
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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 12:56:39 » |
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Just a bit of England/Scotland rivalry. Perhaps Scotland would beat Jamaica who knows, I wouldn't fancy them to beat England though.
Northern Ireland scraped a victory but they didn't reall outplay England.
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 13:50:52 » |
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I never said Scotland would beat England Jan, just that they would give it a good go. If things stay on course for you I think you'll be qualifying for the tourneys in the next few years.
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 14:04:04 » |
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Not sure what relevance Scotland is to this thread, from all the bitching going on about "why don't Scots support England?" in the media recently, I'd say you're fuelling the Scots arguements. I make a comment about Jamaica's recent performances and you talk about Scotland? Strange.
For what it's worth I'd be extremely confident that Scotland could beat Jamaica, at home, with little hardship. thats all bollocks if you ask me, and yet another exapmle of the english media being retarded and out of touch with common opinion. I dont want scottish support for England, in fact I just dont care what the scots are thinking about our side. I suspect a large majortiy of English fans agree with me. Scotland are rivals, and I dont expect their support just bgecause they are out of the competition. I dont support city or oxford if we are out of the FA cup and they are still in so dont see why international football should be any different really.
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 14:05:51 » |
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Not sure what relevance Scotland is to this thread, from all the bitching going on about "why don't Scots support England?" in the media recently, I'd say you're fuelling the Scots arguements. I make a comment about Jamaica's recent performances and you talk about Scotland? Strange.
For what it's worth I'd be extremely confident that Scotland could beat Jamaica, at home, with little hardship. thats all bollocks if you ask me, and yet another exapmle of the english media being retarded and out of touch with common opinion. I dont want scottish support for England, in fact I just dont care what the scots are thinking about our side. I suspect a large majortiy of English fans agree with me.
Scotland are rivals, and I dont expect their support just bgecause they are out of the competition. I dont support city or oxford if we are out of the FA cup and they are still in so dont see why international football should be any different really. Spot On! 
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 14:14:00 » |
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I don't expect Scottish people to support England, some Welsh people do though, it's a bit different for them as they never qualify for anything.
I'd like to see England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all at the world cup just for a bit of local rivalry although I'd only be supporting England.
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« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 14:16:09 » |
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yeah, I'd like to see all the home nations qualify too.
then all go home without scoring a goal apart from england!
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