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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:07:52 »

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Shame we can't just bring him back.


Oh for fucks sake SHUT UP.

He was fucking sacked move on.
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:26:36 »

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Shame we can't just bring him back.


Oh for fucks sake SHUT UP.

He was fucking sacked move on.
Still a shame though.
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:31:54 »

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Shame we can't just bring him back.


Oh for fucks sake SHUT UP.

He was fucking sacked move on.
Still a shame though.


is it really? i think the decision to cut adrift king and try something new was completely correct. the trend with king in charge was horrendous and atleast for a spell with iffy we looked like we'd stay up
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:36:54 »

However had King stayed we definitely would have stayed up. I've got no doubt about that.
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:39:47 »

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Be fair dazza, why should he walk away with (a big chunk of) money owed to him? I took VR last Sept and made damn sure I got every penny coming to me, and if my then employers hadn't paid me, I'd have taken action against them as well. Unless there's something we don't know about this (and, to be fair, there usually is) or something I've forgotten to take into account (and, to be fair, there usually is), I don't see how this is any different, really.


It’s personal opinion to be honest Paul.  

He’s entitled to the money so we have no option to pay it.  More fool us for allowing him to be in a position where he was able to claim a penny after being dismissed.  In fact more fool us for hiring him second time around.

The fact that he obtained the job off the back of dropping his first court case and after listening to all of the bollocks “I am Swindon Town Football club”, “I have the club’s best interests at heart” over the past few years to now see him taking the club to court again is a bitter pill to swallow.  The fact that we’re struggling to pay him would indicate we’re struggling financially, as ever, which makes it all the worse.  

It’s naďve to think that King was anything other than a lower league mercenary and expect any different of him.  There are still a few people with dignity in the game like King’s predecessor who walked away without so much as a penny when he departed but as I said it doesn’t leave an endearing image of the man.  Having seen how Ruddock quickly turned from hero to zero after treading a similar path I can’t see it being to long before King is universally loathed and quite rightly so.

As I said purely personal opinion, yes he’s entitled but it doesn’t stop me from hoping he spends the rest of his career rotting on one long miserable period of  ‘gardening leave’.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:41:31 »

I suppose it was just a matter of time before people started talking about the "what if King had stayed scenario".

How could we have stayed up with a manager who didn't:

Motivate the players?
Choose the right tactics?
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:44:05 »

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However had King stayed we definitely would have stayed up. I've got no doubt about that.


fuck off you cunt.
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:44:24 »

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I suppose it was just a matter of time before people started talking about the "what if King had stayed scenario".

How could we have stayed up with a manager who didn't:

Motivate the players?
Choose the right tactics?


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Lord I'm having a black day. :twisted:
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:44:26 »

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How could we have stayed up with a manager who didn't:

Motivate the players?
Choose the right tactics?
Good point, probably wasn't the best idea appointing Iffy when you put it like that. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:46:23 »

Go munch on some urinapple chunks Ben, I want to have a good moan about the useless twat in peace.
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:49:46 »

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How could we have stayed up with a manager who didn't:

Motivate the players?
Choose the right tactics?
Good point, probably wasn't the best idea appointing Iffy when you put it like that. Wink


He did seem to change things around for a bit.  However the lack of experience in the coaching staff let panic set in I think.  I firmly believe we would also be relegated, much sooner, with King in charge.  It wasn't a 10 match problem, more a since January ish problem which suggested things would not get much better for the rest of the season.

I'd like some experience brought in, maybe like Lawrence at Rovers is helping Trollope.  However, Kings time was up.
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 11:55:03 »

To be fair I don't think there's much separating the two in terms of results over the period.  

I'd be interested to see how King would have used the Cock and Brown (sounds like a double act or DVD I have) resources and if he could have dug his way out of trouble.  

Seriously doubt it, as I've said before if you look back over King's reign for vast periods he was solely reliant on Sam Parkin's contribution and even substituting him for a 15 goal a season man  we'd have been in serious shit very quickly but you never know.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 12:05:47 »

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Be fair dazza, why should he walk away with (a big chunk of) money owed to him? I took VR last Sept and made damn sure I got every penny coming to me, and if my then employers hadn't paid me, I'd have taken action against them as well. Unless there's something we don't know about this (and, to be fair, there usually is) or something I've forgotten to take into account (and, to be fair, there usually is), I don't see how this is any different, really.


It’s personal opinion to be honest Paul.  

He’s entitled to the money so we have no option to pay it.  More fool us for allowing him to be in a position where he was able to claim a penny after being dismissed.  In fact more fool us for hiring him second time around.

The fact that he obtained the job off the back of dropping his first court case and after listening to all of the bollocks “I am Swindon Town Football club”, “I have the club’s best interests at heart” over the past few years to now see him taking the club to court again is a bitter pill to swallow.  The fact that we’re struggling to pay him would indicate we’re struggling financially, as ever, which makes it all the worse.

Yeah, fair enough, although anyone who believes the "I'm taking such and such a course of action because I love the club" line from any manager or player at any club deserves all the disappointment they've got coming to them. He took the job because he knew he wouldn't get paid off, irrespective of the court case, because the club didn't have the money, and because he knew he wouldn't have got another manager's job elsewhere. Love for the club didn't come into it, never does, that's just the line they all parrot for the press because it sounds better than "I didn't have a hope in hell of getting my hands on the cash and no-one else wanted me".

On the flip-side, I don't especially blame the club for prioritising other bills over paying off King either.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 12:08:52 »

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Be fair dazza, why should he walk away with (a big chunk of) money owed to him? I took VR last Sept and made damn sure I got every penny coming to me, and if my then employers hadn't paid me, I'd have taken action against them as well. Unless there's something we don't know about this (and, to be fair, there usually is) or something I've forgotten to take into account (and, to be fair, there usually is), I don't see how this is any different, really.


It’s personal opinion to be honest Paul.  

He’s entitled to the money so we have no option to pay it.  More fool us for allowing him to be in a position where he was able to claim a penny after being dismissed.  In fact more fool us for hiring him second time around.

The fact that he obtained the job off the back of dropping his first court case and after listening to all of the bollocks “I am Swindon Town Football club”, “I have the club’s best interests at heart” over the past few years to now see him taking the club to court again is a bitter pill to swallow.  The fact that we’re struggling to pay him would indicate we’re struggling financially, as ever, which makes it all the worse.

Yeah, fair enough, although anyone who believes the "I'm taking such and such a course of action because I love the club" line from any manager or player at any club deserves all the disappointment they've got coming to them. He took the job because he knew he wouldn't get paid off, irrespective of the court case, because the club didn't have the money, and because he knew he wouldn't have got another manager's job elsewhere. Love for the club didn't come into it, never does, that's just the line they all parrot for the press because it sounds better than "I didn't have a hope in hell of getting my hands on the cash and no-one else wanted me".

On the flip-side, I don't especially blame the club for prioritising other bills over paying off King either.


Christ, don't get me wrong I didn't believe it any more at the time than I do now.   Shocked

Bllod suckers the lot of them.
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 12:14:17 »

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Bllod suckers the lot of them.

Bllod suckers? Is that some sort of Welsh fetish?  :shock:
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